No.402628 [Last50 Posts]
How does /cuteboys/ feel about the idea of a white ethnostate?
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No.402629
>>402628
Asia is a continent of ethnostates
Africa is a continent of ethnostates
South America is a continent of ethnostates
Why are North America and Europe not allowed to be ethnostates? Why are whites now allowed a right to their homelands? Why do we have to allow our demographic genocide as if its some eventuality and progress. Stop white genocide. Preserve white society and white homelands. Remember the 14 words.
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No.402630
>>402628
Fucking this, it would be so much easier to find a bf in an /cuteboys/ ethnostate
fuck niggers and fuck women
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No.402636
>>402628
It isn't like the ideal end-goal of civilization, more like a last resort. The end of the world is near and it will be centuries before civilization rises again; in the meantime it is our best bet for survival, basically because any cooperation is undermined by conflicting tribal affiliations when resources are scarce. But when pensions go bust in seven years and the money runs out, yeah, ethno state is the only place you'll be able to trust your neighbors. I'm an anarchist but I know our chance of forming a free society is long gone and our current trajectory requires survivalism.
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No.402864
>>402629
>Why are whites not allowed a right to their homelands?
Because the grand majority of where whites live isn't their "homeland" to begin with, it was stolen from other peoples via genocide. This particularly applies to North America. If you want to go claim ownership of Scandinavia or some shit, be my guest. Anything else is just nonsense, though.
(Also, if you think anywhere else is pure ethnostates, you're a retard. The only fucking country in all of Asia that is like that is Japan. On the other end of the extreme you have India, and every other country is somewhere between.)
The current size of the "white race" is so small that trying to preserve it in any absolutist fashion would likely only result in horrible inbreeding after a short time. Already, people who can claim 100% heritage from one older country or region look like shit, their features too exaggerated and sharp. Where do you ever see pure white cuteboys? Fucking nowhere, that's where; because they'd have horrible narrow faces, sharp noses, and skin so fucking pale you can see the veins. A little bit of mixing results in the perfect cuteboys because hybridization smooths out the edges of pure races.
And what does it matter? In a few millennia every race will be gone, anyway. Turned into something else that doesn't resemble anything we have today. Clinging to some idiotic failed political ideology that went almost extinct seventy years ago because it's a fucking imageboard meme is completely stupid. You'll never accomplish anything but, maybe, getting yourself killed if you get too deep into this shit when the rest of the world has already left you behind and declared what you want to be evil.
Just grow the fuck up and realize that you're a tiny, completely unimportant fucking cockroach like every other human is.
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No.402882
>>402864
>France isn't the French people's homeland
>Spain isn't the Spanish people's homeland
>Italy isn't the Italian people's homeland
This is your mind on liberalism and nigger fetishism
A post this unintelligent is either bait or far too kiked to be on 8ch, go back to reddit if you want to advocate for white genocide or fetishise this sort of shit. It doesn't belong here.
While i wont bother taking up the rest of your points, i will say to anyone lurking this that there are enough white people on 8ch alone to carry on the white race without inbreeding problems should everyone else die instantly.
It is also ingrained in instinct that people want their children to look like them, and are attracted more to those of their own race. It requires -active- subversion and propaganda to cause an opposing effect strong enough to overcome it. This poster is essentially pretending that the status quo, despite being unlike anything in the past, is natural law.
TL;DR: I wonder who could be behind this post.
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No.402904
>>402628
>tfw no fascist twink bf with an unkiked dick
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No.402953
>>402882
>Blah blah blah blah bitch complain
If you want to argue that a country's current sphere of influence is most certainly its "homeland", you're going to run into all sorts of issues with history. The Eastern seaboard of the USA was part of England for a time. Is that still part of the English homeland? What about the portions of France that were for a number of years owned by Nazi Germany? Is that part of the French homeland, or German? Do Germans still get East Germany, or not? What about Northern Ireland? Because you'll be pissing off someone no matter who you declare to have ownership of that. And don't even get me started on the complete clusterfuck that is the Middle East.
>I won't bother taking up the rest of your points because I don't have any counter for that and I'm afraid of looking like a retard with no argument
Whatever you say, dude.
>there are enough white people on 8ch alone to carry on the white race
Okay, I'll freely admit that got me to laugh out loud for a good minute. Not much will do that. If you think there are more than a few thousand people on the entire fucking site, you're insane.
And most of them aren't white, anyway. Just "white". YOU are not white. You have pale skin because you live in a country that gets weak sunlight, but that's not the same. White people are those who can trace their complete ancestry to protestant Anglo-saxon England, and NOBODY ELSE. If you want to just cram in all the "white" people in order to maintain a delusion that you have a majority, you'll end up with the Irish and Italians and Spanish and Romanians and even the second-generation Latinos.
>It is also ingrained in instinct that people want their children to look like them
Which is why if you have a mutilated dick, you'll want your sons to be mutilated, too.
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No.402992
>be me
>be leftist
>secretely want a cute fascist bf and a white ethnostate
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No.403000
catboy ethnostate is the only one that matters
>>402992
are portuguese white?
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No.403012
>>402953
>The Eastern seaboard of the USA was part of England for a time.
The Americans fought a war to declare independence from Britain.
It's called war. Borders change sometimes during war, surprise surprise.
Given that America was essentially wilderness with colonies with whites from Europe in them, all that really changed was the removal of the British government's authority over the New World.
In case you didn't know, your own country (assuming you aren't on a proxy) wasn't always united either, and had internal borders.
> What about the portions of France that were for a number of years owned by Nazi Germany?
France was under occupation. There is a difference.
You should not confuse with eachother the following:
-Occupation
-Annexation
-Cooperation Government
-Puppet States
France was occupied, in other words, it would return to being France upon the signing of a peace treaty.
Contested territories may change hands during such times, however you cannot simply "take" an area that is inhabited entirely by French people, as they would simply cause unrest, sabotage, raising of international tension and even outright rebellion or another war down the line.
Contested territories, such as those that were taken away from Germany after the conclusion of World War 1, are prime examples of this difference.
Additionally, Vichy France was a thing. Germany had no intentions of annexing France.
On the subject of Annexation, Austria would be a prime example. Austria, however, is full of Germanic people, who speak German and follow German culture. Germany itself was, before it was unified, several smaller states. Austria was simply the last state to make it into this unification, becoming greater Germany.
You CAN annex foreign territories, but only if you displace or genocide the foreign (to you) population that already lives there. This is obviously impossible in the modern day given the international community, but did happen in the older days - see: Ottomans and Greece, etc.
Annexation is also possible if your own culture is very close to the annexed area's culture, or if your culture is an "open society", such as the Roman Empire or modern day USA. Germany was mostly a closed society, however. Japan is an example of an absolute closed society.
>Do Germans still get East Germany, or not?
East Germany was (almost entirely) a puppet state of the Soviet Union. Communism is not a race. It was German before the DDR, it was German during the DDR and it was German after the DDR.
In short: Yes, they do.
>What about Northern Ireland?
Great Britain is an attempt to unify England with Scotland and Ireland, akin to Germany.
The failure lies in the fact that Scots were not similar enough to the English, and they outright failed with Ireland.
Inaccuaries may apply as my knowledge of Ireland's history is limited.
The Irish, for sure though, are their own, and don't wish to be part of Britain. Hence why so many have fought over it.
>If you think there are more than a few thousand people on the entire fucking site, you're insane.
What is the point at which you have too few people to reproduce without inbreeding? It seems you believe that the minimum number is very large, so cite some evidence of that if you will.
>YOU are not white.
I am white.
>You have pale skin because you live in a country that gets weak sunlight, but that's not the same.
Pale is not the same as white. A white person with an extreme tan is still a white person. Your genetics are not impacted by sunlight exposure. And to clarify: sunlight can affect genetics, but only through evolution over the course of many, many generations. And not due to the sunlight itself, but due to secondary factors, like survival rates, which do not apply much in modern society.
A single person's genetics will not "change" no matter how tan you become.
>White people are those who can trace their complete ancestry to protestant Anglo-saxon England, and NOBODY ELSE.
I advise researching things before you say outright false things and make people take you, and your beliefs, for a joke.
What definition of "white" are you even talking about? Europe has many sub-races, the word "white" obviously comes from the differences observed when we, the Europeans, met peoples from Africa, the Middle East and far East Asia.
Germans are Germanics, Italians are mediterranean, so forth and so forth.
All European races are, however, very closely related. There is a huge genetic distance between any European race to any sub-Saharan race. As a matter of fact they are genetically distant to most races, including Asians. I recommend reading up on the subject, it is rather interesting.
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No.403013
>>402953
(from >>403012)
>If you want to just cram in all the "white" people in order to maintain a delusion that you have a majority,
I never said we were the most numerous people. The Chinese have over a billion alone. Africa is making more children than they can sustain, and rely on our ever increasing foreign aid in order to not starve to death.
Sub-Saharan Africans and Middle-Easterners breed much more than white people do. This is, however, not a positive, as the farmable and liveable land can only support so many people comfortably.
White people breed less, take more time to raise and educate our children, and as a result we live more comfortably.
None of this means that whites "cannot breed without inbreeding" because of "too few people". Your fetishes aside, that is still an incredibly stupid statement. The bubonic plague wiped out what, half of the European population? Yet we are still the most technologically advanced peoples on the planet, equalled only by the Japanese.
>you'll end up with the Irish and Italians and Spanish and Romanians and even the second-generation Latinos.
Italians shouldn't breed with Germans, Germans shouldn't breed with the Spanish. And they absolutely mostly didn't, for the absolute majority of history.
Germany had over 80 million people at the onset of World War 2. Even suggesting they "don't have enough" is incredibly stupid as an argument.
>Which is why if you have a mutilated dick, you'll want your sons to be mutilated, too.
Very clever counter-point, and absolutely related to the central argument.
Granted, there ironically is some truth in this. Most of Europe is uncircumcised, and Americans seem to keep it going, partly because it is "popular" or has "benefits" and partly because foreskins are very profitable.
Read your shit before you make yourself look stupid, I'm almost suspecting that this is quality bait, or perhaps someone false-flagging to bait out a response like this as some sort of convoluted way to get someone to post the truth.
In other words, go back to >>>/leftypol/ if you want arguments where feelings trump facts. You obviously most likely won't learn anything from this, but perhaps someone else will.
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No.403050
>>402629
>Asia is a continent of ethnostates
Wrong. See: Turkey, Pakistan, India, Nepal, Bangladesh, Laos, Philippines
>Africa is a continent of ethnostates
Wrong. See: South Africa, Ethiopia, Sudan, Namibia, Lesoto, Congo, Zambia
>South America is a continent of ethnostates
Is this a fucking joke? South America is the opposite of an ethnostate. If South America is an ethnostate then so is North America.
Also, Europe is almost as much of an ethnostate as a whole than your average Asian and African country.
Fucking retard, fuck you.
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No.403055
>>402628
>How does /cuteboys/ feel about the idea of a white ethnostate?
Positive towards it. Although depending on how it manifests (like some abrahamic religion as its main focus) all the gays could get culled along with niggers and spics, which would certainly not be ideal.
Also webm related.
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No.403076
>>403050
>Europe
>An ethnostate
>singular
Are you sure he is the retard here?
>>403055
NatSocs were pretty embracing of paganism as well, its not like christians are about to run any DOTR shit with their god as the exclusive.
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No.403100
>>403076
If Europe as a whole was a country it would be more of an ethnostate than your average Asian or African country. It's obviously not an ethnostate, and neither is the average Asian and African country. Idiot.
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No.403121
>>403100
>if it was a country it would be more of an ethnostate
>its not an ethnostate
You call people fools yet your post makes absolutely no sense.
What exactly do you have to back up your supposed authority of what constitutes an "average" Asian country?
You can easily make a case that Laos has many minor ethnicities but all the ones that aren't the smallest fractions are fucking Asian. Subdividing an asian country into asian ethnicities, many of which (see: China) are obviously from fucking provinces and smaller areas that literally -became- the larger nation.
In short - Asia is full of Asia and for some reason western countries shouldn't be allowed to be full of white people.
Why even bring up "if Europe was a country". It has countries in it, some of those countries are almost entirely white, and what reason exactly do you have that they shouldn't be allowed to continue to be so?
It seems to me that you're trying to discredit the validity of Asia being full of fucking Asians (here's a hint: it is).
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No.403148
Based and redpilled thread
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No.403150
>>403121
>You can easily make a case that Laos has many minor ethnicities but all the ones that aren't the smallest fractions are fucking Asian.
And you can easily make a case that Germany has many minor ethnicities but all the ones that aren't the smallest fractions are fucking European.
See?
>Asia is full of Asia and for some reason western countries shouldn't be allowed to be full of white people.
Europe is full of Europe, and Asian countries do get non-Asian immigration (especially from Europeans lmao).
>and what reason exactly do you have that they shouldn't be allowed to continue to be so?
I'm just saying that its retarded to claim European countries are not ethnostates while at the same time you guys are claiming that fucking South American countries out of all countries are ethnostates. You guys have shit for brains.
>It seems to me that you're trying to discredit the validity of Asia being full of fucking Asians (here's a hint: it is).
Asia is full of Asians in the same way Europe is full of Europeans. Take that as you will.
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No.403213
>>402864
>size of the "white race" is so small that trying to preserve it in any absolutist fashion would likely only result in horrible inbreeding after a short time
You are an actual retard. Ever since the industrial revolution, white people's population has been multiples of what it was before. Indeed everybodies has. So basically every single human population, and every animal on earth, would be horribly inbred according to your logic until humans got to the industrial revolution. What kind of population size do you think there needs to be for no inbreeding you twit, a billlion?
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No.403218
>>403150
>And you can easily make a case that Germany has many minor ethnicities but all the ones that aren't the smallest fractions are fucking European.
Apparently Germany does not even keep records of ethnicity or race - i wonder (((why))) - so i guess making that case would be a bit difficult.
Supposedly London's population is 40% non-white.
The rest of England varying from 4.5 to 17%
FORTY. PERCENT. of their capital city.
You continue to call people stupid yet you seem to have no grasp on even the most basic facts. Europe is being FLOODED by non-white immigrants. Do basic research first.
>Asian countries do get non-Asian immigration (especially from Europeans lmao)
Prove this if you will because i sure as fuck don't see any European immigration to Asia in any sort of comparable size.
Looking at Asia, it seems pretty fucking Asian to me. So instead of me digging around for what may very well be your imagination, how about providing some data?
Additionally, the German anon clearly stated
>Why are North America and Europe not allowed TO BE ethnostates?
>Why are whites not ALLOWED a right to their homelands?
In short, regardless of how much you stretch the definitions of whether or not they ARE ethnostates (they are not), they sure as fuck won't be by ANY definition in the future if it keeps going at this rate.
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No.403219
White Ethnostate is one of my gambits, but I suppose I would be even greater to know that /cuteboys/ would benefit more in an ethnostate than what we currently have. Why? It is because instead of being treated like yet another worthless minority…people would understand that you can't get rid of homosexuals because they occur in nature and a population at a rate of 1.5 to 3%. Basically Logic trumps feels which leads to better things overall and people realize that they don't need to dance around in public like degenerates despite their sexual proclivities.
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No.403222
tfw no anarchonazbolgang-bf
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No.403242
>>403218
>Apparently Germany does not even keep records of ethnicity or race - i wonder (((why))) - so i guess making that case would be a bit difficult.
Here are the statistics:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Germany#Ethnic_minorities_and_migrant_background_(Migrationshintergrund)
Germany is 90% European.
Source: https://www.destatis.de/DE/Publikationen/Thematisch/Bevoelkerung/MigrationIntegration/Migrationshintergrund2010220177004.pdf?__blob=publicationFile
>Supposedly London's population is 40% non-white.
And yet Great Britain's white population is still 87%, with most other minorities coming from previous British colonies (same with London, actually). Maybe that's why there are so many non-whites over there… Same goes to France. It's not rocket science. Meanwhile, 97% of Poland is Polish. The benefits of not having colonies, I guess.
>Prove this if you will because i sure as fuck don't see any European immigration to Asia in any sort of comparable size.
20% of Israel's population is of European descent, and 60% is not even of Asian descent. Worse than London.
>Europe is being FLOODED by non-white immigrants.
Wrong.
>Approximately 20 million non-Europeans live in the European Union, 4% of the overall population. Keep in mind the actual number of non-Europeans on Europe should be even higher since non-EU European countries have less immigration. Europe is not being flooded by non-whites.
Source: https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php/Migration_and_migrant_population_statistics#Migrant_population:_almost_22_million_non-EU_citizens_living_in_the_EU
>regardless of how much you stretch the definitions of whether or not they ARE ethnostates (they are not)
And neither are Asian, African and South American countries. Especially not South America, that's the last place continent in the world you should ever call an ethnostate. Don't be such a moron.
Also, it's disingenuous to pretend Europe is a single ethnicity when Asia as a whole is much more ethnically/genetically diverse than all of Europe. If we were to make an accurate study on "non-native" population living on X country then we shouldn't pretend that Indians and Chinese are the same ethnicity (they are very different). In fact, Arabs are closer to Europeans than Indians are to Chinese people. A proper categorization of people's would be something like this: Sub-Saharan African, Arabic, European (including white Americans and Australians), South Asian, East Asian and Latin American. It's based on this classification that we should measure the number of non-native ethnicity living on each country.
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No.403243
>>403218
There is an error here >>403242
>Europe is being FLOODED by non-white immigrants.
Wrong.
>Approximately 20 million non-Europeans live in the European Union, 4% of the overall population.
Keep in mind the actual percentage of non-Europeans on Europe should be even lower since non-EU European countries have less immigration. Europe is not being flooded by non-whites.
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No.403245
>>402864
>The current size of the "white race" is so small that
There are more white people alive today than there ever have been in history.
>In a few millennia every race will be gone, anyway
Not if we create a white ethnostate, it won't. Also people overwhelmingly choose to breed with their own, even with all the nonstop globohomo racemixing propaganda on every channel in every medium.
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No.403246
>>403000
portugueses are not white.
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No.403260
>>403242
>>403243
>Germany is 90% European.
90% is not acceptable. This means that one in ten is non-European.
Five percent of the population is from the Middle East according to this census.
It also claims that 36% children under 5 years old had migrant background (2015) - including repatriates, which make up, according to this, 3.5% of the total population.
>In 2010, about 15% of the families with a migrant background contained three or more minor children, as compared with just 9% of the families without a migrant background.
And as you can see here, the percentage of non-whites will grow even without further immigration.
Additionally, this is a micro-census (mikrozensus), and does not compare to state issued statistics found in other countries. Satistics which Germany does not keep.
>And yet Great Britain's white population is still 87%, with most other minorities coming from previous British colonies (same with London, actually). Maybe that's why there are so many non-whites over there…
So because Britain had colonies, they should be flooded with immigrants from said colonies after they rescinded them? How long should that continue? Forever?
Western colonies brought infrastructure, wealth, medical science and decent living conditions to the populations of these colonies. Infrastructure that was left for the natives after the colonies were handed over. Infrastructure that, in the case of Africa, was wasted, unmaintained and left to rot.
And this without mention of the ones that don't come from the previous colonies at all, added on top.
>Meanwhile, 97% of Poland is Polish. The benefits of not having colonies, I guess.
Or perhaps, because Poland does not have favorable welfare.
Not to mention how Poland does not want to accept migrants as easily.
>20% of Israel's population is of European descent, and 60% is not even of Asian descent. Worse than London.
If you got that data from where i think you did, it clearly says - by paternal country of origin - genius.
Jews have automatic citizenship to Israel and yet only 44% of them actually live in Israel. They have their own nation but they CHOOSE not to live in it.
Additionally, there is a relationship between religion and race in the Jews. They are therefore simultaneously a religion and a race (although non-jews can convert).
Consider also the fact that Israel is a state created in 1948 on top of already inhabited land. It is not comparable to any European country.
None of this makes london being 40% non-white acceptable. Especially not this poor example.
>Approximately 20 million non-Europeans live in the European Union, 4% of the overall population.
You call people retarded yet believe that ALL OF THE EU is an indicator for the individual countries.
Because CLEARLY non-whites are piling up in line to get into Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, the Czech Republic, Estonia, Finland, Cyprus, Croatia and Bulgaria not to mention Hungary and Poland.
Of course the average is lower when you count the ENTIRE EU. They specifically choose to come to countries with good healthcare and WELFARE. You would have to be EXTRA retarded to believe that fucking Romania has equivalent welfare to Germany.
They literally cross all those other EU countries to get into the ones with better welfare.
You clearly know nothing about Europe and yet you try to school people on it.
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No.403261
>>403242
>>403243
(Continued from >>403260)
>And neither are Asian
Japan is more than 98% Japanese according to studies, although the government also withholds their own statistics.
China (a huge - and need i remind you communist - country), is 92% Han Chinese. As in, this isn't counting the other ethnicities that can be considered Chinese. The rest of the ethnic makeup is also majorily Chinese. The remaining 8% also majorily live in the border areas.
Attached is an example of a commercial in China, a country which had an entire campaign (Cultural Revolution, Destruction of the Four Olds) dedicated to destroy its own culture.
Also is a commercial in Italy, a country currently targeted by subversion.
>African
Zimbabwe (which was formerly Rhodesia) is over 99% African, same for Zambia, similar numbers for Kenya.
If you count different Africans as their own ethnic groups, you could make a case for Africa. You would also have to consider that before the colonies, it didn't have any fucking borders. It had "territories", but not borders. This obviously impacts their internal ethnic (and genetic) makeups.
>and South American countries. Especially not South America
I never made the point that South America was full of ethnostates. Many of those countries were established already having mixed populations from the start.
>that's the last place continent in the world you should ever call an ethnostate. Don't be such a moron.
Nobody called the entire continent an ethnostate (singular). We went over this with Europe.
Funny that this is where you decide to call anyone else a moron.
>non-EU European countries have less immigration.
Norway is a non-EU country, but otherwise this is believable given that the EU encapsulates most of Europe to begin with.
Not to mention of course how easy it is to move inside the EU in order to seek asylum in the country (with welfare) of choice.
>Europe is not being flooded by non-whites.
It is. No matter how many times you say otherwise, you have no data to disprove this. Try something better than pulling a percentage out (4% of ALL of EU) without even realising what you are saying.
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No.403266
>alt-right faggotry
The only traditional place for faggotry is fucking dudes on the side while you're married and have 5 kids.
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No.403267
>>403246
>literal monkey telling others they're not white
Lmao
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No.403278
>>403260
What the fuck is that Italian commercial, Jesus Christ, nuke Europe.
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No.403283
>>403000
>catboy ethnostate
Nick Fuentes, please.
https://imgur.com/gallery/vsEqb
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No.403288
>>403260
>90% is not acceptable
Some Asian countries are at similar levels, and yet the average European country is at higher than 90% anyways.
>Additionally, this is a micro-census (mikrozensus), and does not compare to state issued statistics found in other countries.
The sample is representative, so the results are accurate.
>So because Britain had colonies, they should be flooded with immigrants from said colonies after they rescinded them?
Yes, that's taking responsibility for your actions.
>How long should that continue?
It doesn't happen as much anymore, so its not an issue.
>Or perhaps, because Poland does not have favorable welfare.
Norway does, and they are 86% Norwegian. There is another 13% of immigrants as well, out of which 50% (or 6.5% of Noway) are Europeans (including North American and Australian). In short, it's Norway is 94% white despite having all this welfare.
>If you got that data from where i think you did, it clearly says - by paternal country of origin - genius.
Yes, I did read that, and as we already saw more than 90% of the average European, Asian, African, etc country are European, Asian, African, etc respectively, so it holds.
>They have their own nation but they CHOOSE not to live in it.
Maybe because some Jews consider Germany to be their own nation instead of Israel? There are a lot of criticism regarding Israel (not just ethical issues), so you should be able to understand why some feel that way. Even then, the argument I showed before still holds: Israel is an Asian country with a minority Asian population (worse than London).
>Because CLEARLY non-whites are piling up in line to get into Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, the Czech Republic, Estonia, Finland, Cyprus, Croatia and Bulgaria not to mention Hungary and Poland.
So we are in agreement then that Europe is not getting filled with non-whites?
All your talk about welfare now is just moving goalposts. The original argument was whether or not some countries were or not ethnostates (and by "how much" compared to the rest). Welfare helps explain why some things are the way they are, but the point is European and Asian and African countries are as much of ethnostates as each other (none of them are).
>>403261
>Japan is more than 98% Japanese according to studies
Similar to Poland.
>China (a huge - and need i remind you communist - country), is 92% Han Chinese.
Similar to Germany.
Look, we have both posted European, Asian and African countries with almost a 100% native population and close to 90% non-native population, and this LITERALLY proves my point: Asian and African countries are not ethnostates, just like how European countries are not ethnostates either (unless you want to argue Poland is an ethnostate lol).
>I never made the point that South America was full of ethnostates.
The person I first replied to did, and I called him a retard for that.
>Nobody called the entire continent an ethnostate (singular). We went over this with Europe.
I wasn't referring to the continent as a country, but all the countries from the country. Don't be such a moron.
>Norway is a non-EU country
They are the exception. But actually they are just like the average EU country: 94% white.
>No matter how many times you say otherwise, you have no data to disprove this.
>No matter how many times you say otherwise, you have no data to disprove this.
That's because you are ignoring it.
>Poland is 98% white
>no, that doesn't count because muh welfare
>What about Norway? They are 94% white, which makes them more of an ethnostate than China?
>no, they don't count either because uh, i'm uh retard
Again, white countries are not being flooded by non-whites any more than african or asian countries are being flooded by non-africans or non-asians (especially if you break down their ethnicities to something more accurate than "african" and "asian").
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No.403289
>>403283
oh then the alt right is good actually
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No.403293
>>403288
>Some Asian countries are at similar levels, and yet the average European country is at higher than 90% anyways.
I don't care if "some" Asian countries are at "similar levels".
I don't care if the "average" European country is "higher than 90%" when we include —fucking ROMANIA— and company.
One in ten being brown is NOT acceptable, and it will be MORE than one in ten in the future, because they BREED faster.
40% of the CAPITAL city of a nation being non-white is NOT acceptable. Regardless of your "averages". We went over this, but you seem to be unable to grasp the concept of better welfare = more non-whites seeking asylum.
>The sample is representative, so the results are accurate.
Given that the source material is in fucking German, and that you decided to use it, i'd like you to find out what the sample size is, and where the people who were sampled lived in Germany. Concentrations of immigrants are higher in cities and lower in the countryside.
>Yes, that's taking responsibility for your actions.
Consider the following
-The colonies were rescinded, and the native population given back their land (prior wilderness in many cases) with infrastructure.
-The people who RAN those colonies are no longer around, yet their children should still bear the burden for some reason, DESPITE rescinding the colonies and, need i remind you, leaving them prime infrastucture. Regardless of this, the following point applies.
-The colonies were not in the wrong. The African kingdoms did not even have real borders, setting up shop on the coast and using resources they weren't extracting or using is hardly offensive. Neither is giving them good living standards, trade, and medicine should they choose to participate. We brought them civilisation in a time where they were CANNIBALISING and ENSLAVING eachother. WE brought them the standards that are today considered human rights. WE ended slavery worldwide. We owe them nothing.
-Jews owned the absolute majority of the slave ships running from Africa to America. They also made up more than 50% of the slave owners despite being less than 4% of the population. Jews also ran many other slave trades, selling whites and blacks alike, for CENTURIES - A much bigger operation than Africa-America (which they also fucking ran). Where are the JEWISH reparations?
In conclusion, we owe them, and especially the ones that don't come from the colonies, absolutely nothing.
>It doesn't happen as much anymore, so its not an issue.
That is not an argument. London is 40% non-white and the non-white population is increasing faster than the white one.
It is like you refuse to acknowledge the whole immigrant wave thing that is going on. They are STILL taking immigrants, and they should not have to, neither should any country if they don't want them.
>In short, it's Norway is 94% white despite having all this welfare.
Norway is not an EU state. 6% foreigners is a huge number. It is not "acceptable". It used to (along with most of Europe) be almost entirely white (https://www.ssb.no/a/histstat/art/art_130.pdf), with most significant non-euro immigration coming from Vietnam. Note that crime rates did not surge (through the roof, at that) until people started coming from Africa and the Middle east.
Same thing, it was almost completely homogenous, now its 6%, what is it going to be in 10 years? It is not acceptable.
>Yes, I did read that
Then surely you would realise the implications of that on the statistics when you have Jews who are born in another country and then move to israel.
>and as we already saw more than 90% of the average European, Asian, African, etc country are European, Asian, African, etc respectively, so it holds.
This part makes no sense. No, it does not hold, for the same reasons as described prior (arguments that you conveniently have not confronted). Israel is not a valid comparison.
>Maybe because some Jews consider Germany to be their own nation instead of Israel? (…)
If the Jews want their own country, they can move to it. If you consider yourself JEW first and GERMAN second, then you are not a German.
And yes, there is a lot of issues with Israel, mainly because it is an illigitimate state established after WW2 despite the German method (re-settlement in the area) working just fine.
None of this makes London being 40% non-white acceptable.
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No.403294
>>403288
(from >>403293)
>So we are in agreement then that Europe is not getting filled with non-whites?
Since you clearly know nothing of Europe, let me explain to you what exactly i mean by this.
Romania is a poor country, it is NOT desireable by immigrants and they will not get free housing and money for living there. The rest of the examples are also undesireable for various reasons (poor, ex-Soviet states, no or lesser welfare, nationalism, simply not agreeing to take in boatloads of immigrants who have no business being there, etc.).
>All your talk about welfare now is just moving goalposts.
It is not. I never claimed every single European country is being flooded equally or with the same priority. That is your own fabrication.
Of course Romania isn't being flooded, because they are poor as shit.
>The original argument was whether or not some countries were or not ethnostates
The original argument was that Europe for some reason is not allowed to be composed of ethnostates. If you absolutely want to go through with a "state that rules in favor of its native ethnicity" then go ahead. You might not find laws saying "no brown people" in many countries, but you will find immigration laws, politicians and the general populace to be against foreign immigration. This can constitute an ethnostate, bend definitions as you will.
Foreigners are NOT well received in many non-European countries.
So in short, the argument is that Europe should be allowed to be an ethnostate in the same way that Japan or any similar country is. 98+% homogenous and not 10% composed of a foreign population from Africa and the Middle East who combine constitute the absolute MAJORITY of violent crime such as murder, rape, and literal grenade (and other explosive device) attacks.
MY country used to be peaceful, my neighboring countries used to be peaceful. Now they are not. This is our home, not Eritrea's, Pakistan's or Syria's.
WE have a right to be homogenous, and our media is being outright subverted for the contrary.
That is what the argument is about.
>Why are whites now allowed a right to their homelands? Why do we have to allow our demographic genocide as if its some eventuality and progress. Stop white genocide. Preserve white society and white homelands.
This is what it is about.
>but the point is European and Asian and African countries are as much of ethnostates as each other (none of them are).
Japan is more of an ethnostate than EU member countries. It is not welcoming to foreigners, particularly those who murder, kill, and spread foreign religions.
You can argue all you want about the definition of an "ethnostate", which, because the definition differs, is ambiguous by nature. It is plainly obvious what the German anon meant. White countries are supposed to ACCEPT immigrants (for valid reason), but other countries are not pushed to do the same. There are MANY options for immigrants from "war zones" but they pass them all to settle where the welfare is (surprise).
>Similar to Poland.
Poland has resisted attempts by the EU to force them to take in migrants. We went over this. Nationalism, bad welfare. This is why Poland is ethnically in a better shape, and other European countries would too if they rejected subversion and subversive elements (such as the EU itself).
>Similar to Germany.
Amazing reading comprehension. 92% Han. Not 92% Chinese. Not similar to Germany.
Beijing is 95% HAN. Then comes Manchu and Hui. Guess what they are.
Berlin on the other hand has a quarter of a million Turks in it. THE largest Turkish community that isn't Turkey itself.
The REMAINING 8% in China are majorily Chinese, and those who aren't are majorily Asian.
ADDITIONALLY they majorily live in the border areas.
How is this difficult to understand? Yet again, you call other people morons.
Of course it could just be that you ignore the details in order to make a false point, hoping that you won't get caught looking incredibly stupid.
In short: no, it is not similar to Germany.
China is a COMMUNIST country, and is more Asian than Germany is European.
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No.403295
>>403288
(from >>403293)
>Look, we have both posted European, Asian and African countries with almost a 100% native population and close to 90% non-native population
There are no European countries with a 90% non-native population. I do not know of any Asian ones like that, either. If you mean South America, consider that several civilisations CRUMBLED and DIED before we even settled.
>and this LITERALLY proves my point: Asian and African countries are not ethnostates
So because there is an example of an ethnically homogenous country in europe, this completely disproves massive immigration and, i don't know, the fact that there are hundreds of thousands of immigrants, some violent, almost all with conflicting moral views and culture, settling in European countries and are being paid for it.
I went over the ethnostate definition earlier, so read that part again if you will.
>The person I first replied to did, and I called him a retard for that.
Okay.
What does that have to do with me or any of my own arguments?
They have a lot of sub-saharan blacks and others, and their crime rates are rather high in places. Hardly ideal. I don't want my country to be like those. Their suffering does not justify Europe suffering the same or worse.
>It doesn't happen as much anymore, so its not an issue.
They are still taking in immigrants. It is still an issue. The crime rates are still too high. London is still 40% non-white and it will only increase given their higher birth rates.
>I wasn't referring to the continent as a country, but all the countries from the country. Don't be such a moron.
>wasn't referring to the continent as a country
>but all the countries from the country.
Are you having difficulties? Do you tend to say things that make absolutely no sense, followed by calling someone a moron?
>>Norway is a non-EU country
>They are the exception.
You said non-EU countries have less immigration. Norway is a non-EU country. Norway has good welfare. It is also about as far away as you can get in Europe from the actual places where these people are immigrating from.
They are coming here for the welfare.
Otherwise, it is correct that non-EU countries get less immigration. Probably because they are not forced to take in large amounts of immigrants who have no business here.
>That's because you are ignoring it.
>>Poland is 98% white
>>no, that doesn't count because muh welfare
Poland is 98+% white because it has nationalism, because the people reject immigrants, its government resist EU attempts to force them to take immigrants, and because it does not have good welfare.
>>What about Norway? They are 94% white, which makes them more of an ethnostate than China?
We went over this. China is not 92% Chinese. It is kind of amazing how i clearly explained this in the same post at the same time that i mentioned this, yet you seem to be unable to grasp it, or perhaps your reading comprehension is truly awful.
Consider the fact that living expenses in Norway are high, even on welfare, and that it has actual borders because it is not in the EU. It still manages to be less homogenous than China, a communist nation.
Do i have to remind you that China is 92% HAN Chinese, not 92% Chinese again, before you decide reply using it as a point without the context, followed by calling me a moron, retard, or some other non-argument?
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No.403298
>>403293
>I don't care if "some" Asian countries are at "similar levels".
Do you accept the fact that both white and asian countries are being "flooded" by non-white and non-asian people then? My point is only that Europe, Asia and Africa are comparable when it comes to immigration. That's all.
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No.403299
>>403294
>The original argument was that Europe for some reason is not allowed to be composed of ethnostates.
What exactly is an ethnostate according to you? Is a 100% Polish Poland an ethnostate? Or 99%? 98%? 97%? 95%? Is an ethnostate decided on the basis of laws? Can a state with an ethnic conflict be considered an ethnostate (even if both ethnic groups are "asian")? Would a country composed of 50% Chinese and 50% Indian be considered an ethnostate? The definition of an ethnostate might be ambiguous, sure, but let's go with YOUR definition so we can have a fixed standard instead of moving goalposts all the time about what is or isn't an ethnostate.
>Japan is more of an ethnostate than EU member countries.
Neither are ethnostates.
>White countries are supposed to ACCEPT immigrants (for valid reason), but other countries are not pushed to do the same.
But they do. Many Asian and African countries have many ethnic minorities living in their countries (around 10% of more).
>China is a COMMUNIST country
Unrelated to the discussion, but China stopped attempting communism four decades ago once Mao died.
>The person I first replied to did, and I called him a retard for that.
>Okay.
>What does that have to do with me or any of my own arguments?
Well, you are the one who replied to my post calling that poster a retard, so you tell me.
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No.403302
>>403298
>Do you accept the fact that both white and asian countries are being "flooded" by non-white and non-asian people then?
No.
>My point is only that Europe, Asia and Africa are comparable when it comes to immigration. That's all.
They are not.
Africa is not receiving massive amounts of immigrants. Any white populations are left-over and are situated in South Africa, Zimbabwe is over 99% African despite being Rhodesia prior. I don't know of any other sub-saharan country with a significant white population.
Beijing is nearly entirely Chinese
Tokyo is nearly entirely Japanese
London is not at all entirely white
Berlin is not at all entirely white
Oslo is not at all entirely white
Malmö is not at all entirely white
Consider that:
-The absolute majority of people that are not natives in these Asian countries are close relatives (see image) to the native population. The ones that aren't are majorily Asian as well. The European countries have a HUGE number of foreigners that are NOT European or closely related at all.
-These are people who do not understand our culture, who do not share our values, and who do not practice our customs, and don't even learn our language in many cases.
There is a DIFFERENCE between these two concepts.
>>White countries are supposed to ACCEPT immigrants (for valid reason), but other countries are not pushed to do the same.
Correction: this was supposed to say (for no valid reason).
>But they do. Many Asian and African countries have many ethnic minorities living in their countries (around 10% of more).
>having ethnic minorities of extremely similar likeness to you in your country is the same as having 10+% non-whites in a white country
>Because they have ethnic minorities (which in most cases are not comparable for reasons explained several times), they are being pushed to take in more of them (they are not).
Imagine grasping at straws this hard.
>Unrelated to the discussion
Communism is related to the discussion because it deliberately attempts to destroy the nations culture, religion, etc.
All of which are things that keep a people together.
Yet even so China manages to resist immigration from the Middle East and Africa better than European nations.
>The definition of an ethnostate might be ambiguous, sure, but let's go with YOUR definition so we can have a fixed standard instead of moving goalposts all the time about what is or isn't an ethnostate.
When you said outright false things like
>And you can easily make a case that Germany has many minor ethnicities but all the ones that aren't the smallest fractions are fucking European.
it becomes about more than just the definition of what is and is not an ethnostate.
MY definition does not matter as much as the original anon's for the purposes of the central argument, which is that Europe is apparently not allowed to be full of Europeans, and should take in loads of immigrants from outside of Europe, while other countries do not have the same issue.
Making stupid claims like 92% Han Chinese and the rest being fucking ASIAN is the same as one (or more) in ten and increasing being AFRICAN or MIDDLE EASTERN doesn't disprove anything.
And by his implied definition (Asia for fucking Asians), they clearly are. Additionally, even by harsh standards, Japan can be considered an ethnostate. If you need outright governmental publications and laws making non-Japanese people second-class citizens or the like for it to be an ethnostate, then ethnostates do not exist at all to my knowledge.
For all intents and purposes, ethnic purity and immigration is what this is about, and you know it. Turning it into a binary yes/no ethnostate-or-not game is running away from the central argument. By lenient terms Japan is an ethnostate and Europe is not, by extreme terms neither are. This clearly maps out the point.
You have made many arguments since the start, and even if we settled on "nothing is an ethnostate", it wouldn't change the fact that there are MILLIONS of brown people here blowing our fucking shit up, raping people, and settling in our lands while getting fucking PAID for it.
Europe is for Europeans. If you disagree, you can always put on some lipstick and join Antifa.
Have a look at the image attached and see exactly part of why and East Asian country having "many minorities" is not the same thing as Europe being flooded by Pakis, Africans and Arabs etc.
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No.403307
>>402628
>TFW pol doesn't have enough canada threads
I really need to know more about Canada politics without having to rely on pol.
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No.403312
>>403302
If you refuse to define what qualifies as an ethnostate then there is no point in arguing with you because you can just move the goalposts on what it means to be an ethnostate all the time. First define ethnostate, then we can decide if certain Asian, African and/or European countries can be considered ethnostates or not.
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No.403328
>>403312
I asked you if you are sure the German anon is the retard here, after you called Europe "as much of AN ethnostate (…)", as in singular.
To which you replied
>If Europe as a whole was a country it would be more of an ethnostate than your average Asian or African country.
Which is you shifting it towards "more" ore "less" of an ethnostate. Your definitions here.
Followed by lines such as
>And you can easily make a case that Germany has many minor ethnicities but all the ones that aren't the smallest fractions are fucking European.
>Europe is full of Europe, and Asian countries do get non-Asian immigration (especially from Europeans lmao).
and
>Asia is full of Asians in the same way Europe is full of Europeans. Take that as you will.
Which is all outright wrong, and was disproven several times.
In short, you got absolutely ass-annihilated on every other argument so you resort to pretending that if someone has a more absolute leaning definition or not as to what makes an already ambiguous word, this somehow means you win.
Immediately you clearly bring in and imply your own biased criteria like
>Asia is full of Asians in the same way Europe is full of Europeans.
Which is what the argument revolves around to begin with.
It is the last straw for you to grasp at, and here we are.
I'll make it simple for you:
If you have lenient terms as to what an ethnostate is, Europe would not be full of ethnostates. However, nations like Japan, China, etc. could easily be seen as one.
If you have harsher terms as to what an ethnostate is, Europe would not be full of ethnostates. However, nations like Japan could possibly be seen as one.
If you have extreme or absolute terms as to what an ethnostate is, Europe would STILL not be full of ethnostates. Neither would any other stable country that i know of, except the DPRK, because at this point you would have to go back to before WW2 and all the international liberal horseshit happening.
This clearly resolves any issue in definition, and refutes your first point:
>If Europe as a whole was a country it would be –more of an ethnostate– than (…)
TL;DR: You drop every other point and resort to a non-argument, pretend that the central point is personal definition, and not whether or not Europe is being flooded by brown people (which is what you've been arguing against). Hint: It is.
With this in mind, it is understandable that you see no point in further argument, perhaps you should just stop arguing altogether, as it seems you have difficulty making a single successful argument.
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No.403339
>>403328
>lenient, harsher, extreme
Which one do you actually believe?
Because sure, Japan is more of an ethnostate than Germany, but Germany is more of an ethnostate as Laos. Arguably none of them are ethnostates anyways.
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No.403347
>>403339
>Which one do you actually believe?
Irrelevant to the discussion. Lacking a proper definition it is left to ideals. See the former post as well as the bottom of this one.
>sure, Japan is more of an ethnostate than Germany
Only took how many posts to get that across
>but Germany is more of an ethnostate as Laos
Consider the following
-Laos is under Communist rule
-Declared independence 1949
-Was previously made up of several kingdoms
-The non-Lao people are, what, 99.9% also Asian and majorily indigenous to THAT region.
In short, no.
WE have -foreigners- in our nations. Not some people that used to be a kingdom INSIDE of what is now Sweden, Germany, etc.
Here are some interesting statistics for the sake of it.
Gray bars: Immigrants granted resident status
Red line: Reported rapes
>Arguably none of them are ethnostates anyways.
Which is why it is rather irrelevant to the central point. If ethnostates don't really even (or barely even depending on your view on the DPRK) exist in your opinion, then calling someone retarded over a word with ambiguous definition is in itself pretty retarded.
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No.403350
To those that say "Hurr there's no such thing as a white race" yes there is, we Europeans all cluster in together as a single unified race, from Spain to Sweden, we all share most of our ancestors and in fact, whites are the purest race in terms of admixture, as in, all Europeans are hardly mixed and are all the same natives they've ever been to the land of Europe.
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No.403367
>>403347
>In short, no.
What you mentioned is irrelevant. They are not an ethnostate (even less than Germany) since there are many different ethnic groups living there. The different ethnic groups see themselves as different.
>WE have -foreigners- in our nations.
So does Laos.
>Not some people that used to be a kingdom INSIDE of what is now Sweden, Germany, etc.
The Khmu live not only in Laos, but in Vietnam and Thailand, and they are 11%. They are an ethnic minority in Laos.
The Hmong extend to China and Vietnam, they are an ethnic minority in Lagos made up of 8%.
The Thai have a country for themselves and they are 4% of Laos.
Germany is more of an ethnostate than Laos.
>then calling someone retarded over a word with ambiguous definition is in itself pretty retarded.
Not really. If they are using an ambiguous definition in a contradictory way ("South American countries are more ethnostates than European states", which is bullshit in every way imaginable), then it's fine to call them retarded.
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No.403368
>>403350
>Hurr there's no such thing as a white race
There is, you just forgot to include Middle Eastern people under white in your post.
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No.403369
>>403350
>>403368
I wonder if you dummies even understand what these graphs are showing. The two factors are just random, unimportant genes that happen to have mutated relatively recently in certain populations, making them convenient for grouping people into one ancestral line or another. Obviously on a statistical level, Europeans are more closely related to each other than they are to Africans.
I'm definitely not going to convince you that race is "made up" or whatever, but these graphs don't have anything to do with race itself or what you consider "whiteness." The factors have nothing to do with any of the traits you believe vary across races (intelligence, skin color, whatever).
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No.403370
>>403350
>Europeans are hardly mixed and are all the same natives they've ever been to the land of Europe.
That part is most definitely not true. It's pretty much just the Basques who are still on their "native" land. Almost every other European cultural group moved from somewhere else (usually still within what we consider "Europe" though) during human history.
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No.403395
>>403367
>So does Laos.
Find me non-asians in Laos that make up any significant portion of the population.
Also find me ones that came there from the Middle East or Africa (or Europe as you've claimed before).
They are all fucking Asian and indigenous.
Also way to read the
>Not some people that used to be a kingdom INSIDE of what is now Sweden
part.
>The Khmu live not only in Laos (…)
Way to read the part that says they are
-All indigenous to the region
-Were formerly part of their own kingdoms keeping them seperate
-Said kingdoms territories were split between nations (see Sukhothai, now part of Thailand, Laos, Myanmar, Malaysia)
-Are now in a very recently established, Communist country and still manages to be 99+% Asian
If you had bothered to do research you'd realise the absolute majority of 88+% of them live in the north, still seperated, and you'd also realise that this goes so far that Laos is internally divided into three areas that each major group is considered to inhabit.
Not only can't they "self-divide" into their "own" territories in Europe (because they are not white and don't belong here), they stick to the cities, receive free shit and cause the crime rates to skyrocket.
This is very relevant.
You have to be retarded to believe this is comparable in any way, shape or form.
>The different ethnic groups see themselves as different.
Gee I wonder why when you were your own kingdom and now you're in a communist state.
This is good, because they manage to stay seperate even under a single communist rule. Meanwhile you have race-mixing by people who are nothing like us in Europe.
>Germany is more of an ethnostate than Laos.
It is not, which is ironic given that it is fucking Communist and had to move there since Japan and China didn't work out for you.
Europe should still be allowed to be European.
Even in this state, they remain seperate, while race-mixing and other degeneracy is being pushed in Europe like no tomorrow. It is not comparable. What will Germany be like at this rate? It sure as fuck won't stay like this by any sort of definition if this keeps on.
Does Laos give free living space and money to Africans and Arabs? Do they run commercials and news broadcasts trying to convince people they are totally like Laos people? Do they have laws that can IMPRISON you if you say something bad about brown people?
>then it's fine to call them retarded.
South America was the only valid counter-point. I think what is more retarded is to treat Europe as "an ethnostate" or "not", singular.
I also think what is more retarded is your lack of reading comprehension. Find me a non-Asian minority causing the rape rates to fucking triple in Laos.
There are literal "danger zones" here where the EMT services do not want to go, guess who lives there.
Beginning to wonder if you're some sort of leftist mulatto yourself and have impaired comprehension or need for justification as a result. Not to bring Ad-hominem into it, but it isn't as if you're making valid arguments, or making sure you know your shit before you post to begin with. Europe is being flooded by non-whites, and the best counter-point you have been reduced to is a communist state spanning several pre-Laos borders as well as internal migration, and comparing that to immigration from Africa and the ME.
We have the right to be white.
>>403369
It's what the useful idiots on the left believe, because facts, research and reading comprehension is for pussies when you can just pull numbers or graphs out of your ass and have them mean whatever you want.
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No.403406
>>403368
I DID SAY THERE'S SUCH A THING AS A WHITE RACE YOU MORONS, READ MY POST AGAIN
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No.403438
>>403406
Yes, there is, but arabs are white too.
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No.403440
>>403438
yeah and so are niggers, raccoons and space rocks species is only skin deep amirite reddit upvote my post
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No.403441
>>403395
>Find me non-asians in Laos that make up any significant portion of the population.
I just need to find different ethnic groups. "Asian" is not an ethnic group by itself (as Western Asians have more in common with Europeans than Chinese).
Calling them "just Asian" is misleading. They are different ethnic groups, were the majority ethnic group is barely a majority. Germany is more of an ethnostate as that, as simple as that. I repeat, because you are too stupid to get this
Laos has MORE ETHNIC DIVERSITY (ethnic majority is less than 60%) than Germany (ethnic majority is around 90%). Two VERY SIMPLE facts, that you dismiss for completely unrelated reasons (muh communism, muh ""asians"").
Again, Laos is LESS of an ETHNOSTATE (ETHNO refers ETHNIC GROUPS) than Germany. 60% versus 90%. Just how fucking dumb are you again? And then you talk about invalid arguments by mentioning issues unrelated to this fact (rapes, fallacy fallacies, arbitrary definitions of what counts as ethnic groups, etc).
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No.403442
>>403440
Arabs are whites too. See >>403368
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No.403446
>>403438
Arabs are semites, whites are not.
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No.403447
>>403446
Semites are white. See >>403368
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No.403448
>>403447
There is some overlapping, but you see 2 far different clusters.
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No.403452
>>403448
You are right. Russians, Poles and Romanians are not white either as they don't cluster with the rest of Europeans.
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No.403453
>>403452
They all form a single string, romanians are not white, fuck 'em.
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No.403455
>>403453
>They all form a single string
You are absolutely right, Europeans and Middle Easters form a single string. Arabs are white.
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No.403457
>>403453
>>403452
Slavs are the niggers of the white race, what else is new?
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No.403460
>>403441
I find it ironic how you screech at me to notice the "ethno" part of "ethnostate" while ignoring the "state" part of it yourself.
As ambiguous as "ethnostate" is, especially in this thread, it can absolutely not refer simply to "ethnic makeup".
Since it is obviously too difficult for you to deal with compound words, I will cut it out here for you.
For the [STATE] part
The German state outright works against its own people's ethnic purity. This by default disqualifies them from being an ethno-STATE.
They cannot really stay seperate like in Laos, because the immigrants don't give a shit, and because the government will put them wherever they please, which is in the middle of the capital fucking city.
Laos does indeed have more significant numbers of non-Lao people, however they also live mostly seperately inside of a greater, unified country.
Because the Lao government does not actively try to reduce the purity of Lao or any of the other peoples to my knowledge, this by definition makes them politically more of an ethno-STATE than Germany.
If they are interested even in the slightest in preserving the individual ethnicities of Laos, especially Lao people, then they are already doing miles better than Germany and Merkel.
For the [ETHNO] part
You could argue that Laos is less ethnically pure, which would be wholly correct. However, Laos is not being flooded by these people from the outside en-masse into the Lao people's homelands to my knowledge. The borders moved onto THEM, not the other way around.
Additionally, these people, being """muh""" Asians, are indeed Asians. Asians that stay seperate from eachother, despite living inside of the same borders. This is important because the Lao people can still exist generations from now, a quality Germany does not share.
As for Germany, the foreigners (who live on the same land as Germans), are not even European. This is important, because Asians are obviously more compatible with other Asians than they are with Arabs. Europe is no different, despite facing a clearly different situation.
These immigrants come from the outside, settle here, have far more children than the native population (an issue i don't see present in Laos). This means that in the future, Germany will fast become less ethnically pure than Laos due to its policies, this would fast undo the "ETHNO" part of "ethnostate" and already invalidates the "STATE" part of ethnostate. This is relevant because for an ethnoSTATE, the future obviously matters. Added to this to this is that the state will allow gross offenses like rape and murder against its people (for who they supposedly are an ethnoSTATE for) to continue.
Germany is therefore facing greater threats to its ethnic purity, which is already far too low.
Arguing that Germany has a 90% ethnic majority when "German" OBVIOUSLY only makes up 75% (+3% ambiguous) of the microcensus that YOU chose to use (actual method of determination ambiguous because you chose source material in —fucking German—) while splitting Laos into its component parts is either incredibly retarded or outright just you hoping i'd be dumb enough to buy it. If you're going to accuse of "muh asian" then don't "muh european", way to live up to your own standard.
Since you are obviously foregoing the STATE part of Laos, then is it not wholly valid to count the individual, seperate ethnic communities? The answer is no, because the state obviously does count, because we are not discussing ethnic purity of people inside borders without taking into account the state that those borders belong to. Otherwise the borders would be fucking arbitrary now wouldn't they?
If you wanted to argue PURELY ethnic purity, IGNORING genetical/racial, cultural, moral and religious differences, then feel free to do that, at the same time abandoning your original arguments that Asia is being flooded with violent shitskins in the same way that we are, or that whites make up any sort of significant immigration group in Asia, and all the other stupid shit that got debunked.
Again, top genius over here calling people dumb in the same sentence that he literally implies that ETHNOSTATE means ethnic groups and that everything else related to that word is just "unrelated issues".
In conclusion, an ethnostate in ANY case, to protect the purity of its people, must include matters of social, cultural and religious significance, because they are what keeps a PEOPLE (ETHNO) together in a NATION (STATE). You might argue that an ethnostate could exist that successfully keeps the purity of its people while not giving a flying shit about any of those things, but since such a thing doesn't exist, has never existed, and evidently cannot exist, that would be false. Not that any of this matters, as if i have to prove to you in the first place how absolutely retarded it is to believe that ethnostate = ethnic makeup and nothing else.
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No.403498
>>403457
>Slavs are the niggers of the white race
But are they white? Because if they are white, then so are arabs.
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No.403504
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No.403506
>>403455
>implying
Look here, you semitic nigger, you are clearly desperate to been as white, but you'll never be, because some overlapping does not qualify as a single race, you can see in that graph already how arabs are seen as their own separate thing.
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No.403507
>neither of you can explain what the variables in the graphs mean
you are both mentallly impaired
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No.403508
>>403507
They don't mean anything, as I already said, they are just two factors selected out of millions because they happen to vary across ethnic groups and thus can be used to measure, for example, which population any given discovery of human remains may have been an ancestor of.
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No.403511
>>403508
Not even him, you really can't see how that makes all of you retarded? Fucking /pol/ fags.
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No.403513
White people need our own countries to survive. Mass immigration is just legal colonization.
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No.403522
>>403511
To be clear, I am posting ITT only because I hope that it may save some innocent bystander anon from falling into this retarded /pol/ rabbit hole. I don't sympathize with these dumb racists at all.
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No.403534
>>403511
>two retards, one obviously not /pol/ going at it means everyone is stupid
what progressive logic my multicultural friend! upvoted!
>>403522
the truth tends to be a rabbit hole in a world of lies
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No.403557
>>403506
They are not its own separate thing, they are literally overlapping. There are green dots in the blue cluster, and blue dots in the green cluster. Look at the chart again. Furthermore, there are actually two clusters of European people, so it means that there are some European populations that have less in common with the other Europeans than the Arabs have with those.
>>403507
>>403508
I'm just explaining to this /pol/tard with his own retarded logic why he's wrong (he was the one who first posted a graph without knowing what it actually meant), so don't put me in the same camp as him. So let's you call the "white" spic (>>403506) a moron, shall we?
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No.403586
>>403557
You're desperate about this aren't you? Middle Eastern folk are heavily admixtured and are nothing like Europeans in terms of genetics, few similarities don't make a single unified race.
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No.403602
>>403557
>Poltards >Proxy Fag
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No.403605
>>403586
That chart is flawed because to make the chart the researchers decided a-priori what the races were (Africa, Mid East, etc) to make the proportions of ethnicity. It's basically circular logic if you post this chart to prove European and Middle Eastern people are different ethnicities.
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No.403758
What did they mean by this?
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No.404195
>>402628
https://meguca.org/nya/
I think that unless a revolution in one of the USA/UK/France nukes required occurs that is openly pro-Aryan in nature, white genocide will continue… also the revolution needs to maintain/expand freedoms for Aryan citizens, so Aryan /cuteboys/ cannot be orthodox hitlerites if they want to live. I also think I should be Queen nya~
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No.404196
>>404195
Realistically sexual orientation is relatively unimportant to the survival, expansion, and improvement of the Aryan population, so long as the borders are controlled, and dysgenic reproduction disincentivized while eugenic reproduction is incentivised. Currently the opposite exists because the (((elite))) wants to destroy Aryan Civilisation… and indeed even Eastern Civilisation.
HAIL VICTORY NYA
VIVE LA REVOLUTION NYA
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No.404292
. I play vidya and post based(ed) memes. I'm a natsoc. Is anyone in here actually trying to date?
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No.404293
Okay, shoot, forgot to embed an image. Here.
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No.404386
>>402629
Your mother is a continent of ethnostates too then I guess lmao >>403050
wow someone that has the facts and isn't a sperging misinformation sheeple of the Alt Kike
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No.404405
>>404386
>Kafir complaining about Racism
>Nation allows Negroids over Caucasoids to have more inherent rights
oh you ~
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No.404434
>>402628 Homosexuality will not coexist with such a nation. We need an ethnostate free from the grasp of (((homosexuality))).
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No.404535
>>404386
both of you have no facts
now go back to africa you nigger loving kike
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No.404536
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No.404722
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No.408514
>>402628
/r/ClownWorldWar are fundies who want to take away my freedom. Just because I hate Tanya Gersh and Robert Mugabe doesn't mean I want to live in /r/ClownWorldWar's ideal totalitarian state. Just because I used to post on CoonTown and I fucking Ashkepath commies who want to take away the Constitution because "Nazis are bad" and "Karl Popper's intolerance paradox outweighs the First Amendment"
Yes, the draconian sentences given to right-wingers who had the temerity to defend themselves from antifa or panic in the middle of a violent crowd (and make a fat chick have a heart attack without even touching the car) infuriates me every day. But if you go on MDE-related subs like ClownWorldWar and Smuggies, the posters sincerely believe that Leelah Alcorn's parents are great parents, that parents should be authoritarian, give their sons buzzcuts, and stomp out femininity.
Even flag-waving Jew-and-black-loving alt-lite posters on /r/RightWingLGBT are up in arms over dysphoric teenagers getting puberty-blockers early enough to pass; "REEEE that's child abuse!" It's like they've never heard of Thailand.
"Tolerance and apathy are the last virtues of a dying society?" Bitch, I WISH antifa, SJWs and Ashkenazim were tolerant and apathetic and busy snorting cocaine off a hooker's ass instead of on a moral crusade to have governments and Silicon Valley megacorporations unite to "deplatform" and stomp out wrongthink.
>be Anon browsing /r/ClownWorldWar
>watch Tramp Stamp's "Moloch" video
>Gay guy in the first 27 seconds has a nice bod, hairless and cute
>Fursuiter at 47 seconds has an awesome fursuit
>Plushie guy is cute, long hair and a gay voice
>Evander Angel fursuit dancing montage
How am I supposed to be horrified by this?
>apparently dancing fursuiters lead to child drag queens and that leads to bacha bazi, cuz the Slippery Slope is real and therefore legalizing gay marriage directly lead to all the stuff right-wingers don't like
Never mind that bacha bazi is from hyperconservative Pashtun culture that completely restricts seeing women, much less having sex with them, and most of Tramp Stamp's videos like "Whore of Babylon" complain about Western women being too scantily clad and sexually available.
>"We need authoritarianism because the Slippery Slope is real!"
/pol/ should try actually living under a fundie system before thinking that life in 1950s America was like the smiling white families in the ads and TV commercials.
That goes double for WhereAreAllTheGoodMen posters who think that straight men would have a great sex life and marriage if only society Bible-thumped harder. Source: grew up Southern Baptist reading "fapping is bad, normal male sexuality is bad" tracts like Every Young Man's Battle. Lots of /r/DeadBedrooms and /r/exmormon posters married a virgin, the kind of wife TheRedPill tells you is ideal, and they have horrible sex lives thanks to the wife's sexual hangups.
It goes quadruple for incels who think they'd have a great sex life and get laid easily under Islam because of "obey your husband" shit. That great and wonderful system is why there are so many thirsty men in Muslim countries, right?
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No.408516
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No.408529
>>408514
Go back to reddit
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No.408545
>>408514
>>408529
But you're a furry anon~
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No.408650
you faggots realize you would be murdered if the fash took power, right? keep larping if it makes you happy tho
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No.408693
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No.408791
>>404293
Brenton Femboi Terrent is right lol
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No.408808
>>408516
I actually have Coincidence Detector on my browser. Used to be 100% philo-Semitic because the Arab and commie Israel-bashers who complain about "colonialism" and "racism" want to turn said Israel into the dystopia that Arab countries are. Kevin McDonald complaining that Jews want individualism only made them look better to me. Oh, Jews practice endogamy and believe in their superiority? Good for them, whites should copy their example!
I'm anti-authoritarian and I hate SJWs. What made the furfag begin to hate was the consistent pattern of "fellow white people" Ashkepaths–and not merely the switching between "fellow white people" and "I'm proud to be Jewish even though I'm an atheist and never attend a synagogue," but the authoritarian desire to punish–for example, Tanya Gersh going after Richard Spencer's mother.
And when anyone notices the bad behavior of people like Gersh, and how the authorities back it, it's "anti-Semitic" even if you never mention that Gersh is Ashkenazi. weren't low-T pathologically altruistic white liberals, they had an entirely different psychology from baizuo shengmu white women like Amy Biehl and Amanda Kijera. Jesse Benn isn't merely a white liberal cuck turned up to 11, he's a tribalist Ashkepath who hates goyim in a mutated way that's exponentially more harmful to whites than some Hasid in a black hat spitting at white women and yelling "shiksa, shiksa, goy goy goy" could ever do.
Good books on this topic: Laird Wilcox's The Watchdogs in combination with Robert Altemeyer's The Authoritarians for what "oh noes, we're in danger of Nazi takeover, punch Nazis!" leads to.
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No.408812
Perfectly fine with the idea if it meant all the nazi larpers would fuck off to inbreed on some island or whatever. If it means killing people: you can follow your dear leader's example and swallow a cyanide pill. Nazi punks fuck off.
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No.408825
>>408817
seems p degen, you don't appear to be much better than those immigrants :/
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No.408831
>>408817
At least do me a solid and beat me to death you limpwristed cuck.
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No.408848
i hate this fucking board so much i just wanna masturbate and you all go and say stupid crap like this. cis and white genocide when.
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No.408855
>>408848
white genocide can't happen fast enough, this thread is why white people don't deserve an ethnostate. thank allah the jews are turning all the men into soyboys and trannies so they stop fucking reproducing
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No.408856
>>408826
>i only want to rape people because they won't submit to my cracker sharia law
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No.408887
>>408872
Do you read your comments before posting them?
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No.408918
>>408904
>>408872
okay being completely sincere, if your ideology leaves you ending up like an incoherent violent clod, you should take some serious time to self reflect and consider that maybe you've been duped with propaganda by people who need you to be angry and afraid so they can enlist you in their cult. just carefully reread your posts and sleep on it anon
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No.408962
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No.410060
>>402864
Never mind this thread. Theyre NPCs to a T. Maybe they can start with a cyber-nation with r9k.
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No.410065
>>410060
>y-y-you can't make an ethnostate here, think of all the aboriginals you killed!
literally who cares, it's just moralfagging. Home(land) is where the heart is desu.
>p-p-pure white people are ugly! you need mixed-dna to be cute goyim
citation plz
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No.410080
>>402629
'white' isn't an ethnicity you fucking retarded kraut
>south america is a continent of ethnostates
i laughed
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No.411542
>>402864
>hurr why do you want to prevent being assimilated into a low IQ mongrel race that doesnt resemble you or your ancestors when eventually we're all gonne be assimilated into a low IQ mongrel race durr
Do you see the failure in this logic yet or do you need an analogy of circular logic?
>more white people alive now than ever before, including within sub ethnic groups. This is true for every other ethnic group
>not enough to prevent inbreeding
EL EM AY OH
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