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d7555e  No.506

<1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.

<2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.

<3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:

<4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.

<5 Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake.

<6 For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God's ministers, attending continually upon this very thing.

<7 Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour.

<8 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law. (Rom. 13:1-8 KJV)

"Governing authorities" here does NOT mean the state, when the state is not established by God. There is an explicit Biblical example of such monarchs:

<4 They have set up kings, but not by me: they have made princes, and I knew it not (Hos. 8:4 KJV)

So rulers can be opposed to God. Ask yourself this, does your government have divine right to rule? Does it even claim to have divine right to rule?

Any government like the USA feds who would trample over the rights of individuals over and over, most notably to massacre the unborn, is certainly not ordained of God

Did Paul obey the "civil authorities", like the emperor?

d7555e  No.507

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>What about the admonition to pay taxes?

Noticeably, the KJV does not use the term taxes

<tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour.

Doesn't that seem like an offering in the church, instead of taxation?

Read from a cucked translation:

<6 This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God's servants, who give their full time to governing.

<7 Give to everyone what you owe them: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; (Rom. 13:6-7 NIV)

Here's a thought experiment: at what point does robbery become taxpaying?

Surely if one loon declared himself your ruler and demanded a portion of your income you wouldn't render it, but what if he was elected?

Theft is theft is theft. The fact is that the state demands income tax at the threat of violence, and so is a robber just as if it were the mafia, or even an individual


424a72  No.511

>>507

The KJV uses archaic English that meant a different thing at the time it was written. Interpreting it as a contemporary translation wont get you anywhere (although I agree NIV is a bad translation) same way that the Holy Ghost in the KJV is better translated today as Holy Spirit.


52b253  No.512

>>511

I'm suggesting that the modern translators added their interpretation of Romans 13 being pro-state when selecting terms

The KJV is early modern English, same as the US Constitution since it's from 1769


ea9e05  No.515

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Relevant video


923d20  No.516

>>515

Is there a video summary that doesn't have loud music over it




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