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c16eae  No.849695

Can someone please tell me the truth of Christianity, the media lies about the religion all the time, but I don't know where I can find the truth, please, can someone give me a basic rundown of Christianity (Branches, the best way to get into Christianity, etc.)

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00ba88  No.849696

Christianity is the religion of the bible. Its central message is the gospel, summarized in john 3:16.

To know what's the truth of Christianity, compare anything someone says against the Bible. That's what the berean Jews were applauded for doing.

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98bb79  No.849716

>>849696

I agree and just like you did when citing scripture I would also add it's important to give John primacy. zionists give other books of the Bible primacy and pervert the scriptures to serve their dastardly ends. This isn't a denom specific thing. Cathodoxy and Protestantism both hold John as the end all be all for theological matters and always have since the beginnings of the church. It's just less obvious to newcomers because of all the heretics like zionists loose on the telejew.

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00ba88  No.849717

>>849716

All scripture is God breathed. None of it is over another because there aren't any contradictions.

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d67242  No.849720

>>849716

Plotinus, just shut up already

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98bb79  No.849721

>>849720

Stay triggered, frenchie ortholarper.

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89b41e  No.849723

Like any religion there are endless interpretations. Personally, I consider a Christian to be someone who follows the teachings of Jesus. I would recommend reading the Thomas Jefferson Bible. Thomas Jefferson removed all of the miracles and fantastical things from the Bible and distilled it down to the moral teachings of Jesus. It makes the concept of Christianity accessible and understandable even to someone who doesn’t necessarily believe in deities.

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d67242  No.849724

>>849721

Subscribe to basic Nicean Christology and Trinitology before calling anyone a larper.

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c3f6c3  No.849739

>>849724

>anyone who calls me a larper rejects the Trinity

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d67242  No.849741

>>849739

You openly said you're a modalist, dude.

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478050  No.849742

>>849741

In your imagination.

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08c3cf  No.849747

>>849695

John 14:6 - Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

Churches only exist to serve God, and none of the are right, as they all are made by men. The only truth is Jesus Christ. There's no problem in going to church, but Jesus is superior to any and all additions we could give to faith. Remember, independently of which church you'll choose, Christ is above all.

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420880  No.849750

>>849716

Why did all the old papists on this board vanish and get replaced with loons?

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22d7ee  No.849765

>>849750

Because the new converts at this point either decided they don't like Catholicism and left or started learning and ended up looking more like experienced (or as you say loon) Catholics. Johannine primacy is very common among Catholicism and even moreso among Orthodoxy.

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341472  No.849785

It's the only belief that transforms your heart at a spiritual level. Many beliefs operate at the soul level (the mind), but Jesus Christ is the only One who can make you spiritually free.

And when you live this way, you know it. Worshipping God in Spirit (being led by the Spirit) and in truth (knowing the truth because the Spirit of God lives within you). When the Spirit lives within you, and you cultivate your life with Jesus, you have new desires and are finally freed to live for the benefit of others. Not just yourself, but for future generations - and you can be happy about it. Because God's Spirit empowers you to live this way. And that's what we all want, to be alive and in love with God (to the point where we consider the good of others as important to us).

When we are with God, this can be true for us:

Love never brings fear, for fear is always related to punishment. But love’s perfection drives the fear of punishment far from our hearts. - 1 John 4:18 TPT

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1902b3  No.849786

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>>849765

>Johannine primacy is very common among Catholicism and even moreso among Orthodoxy.

Nonsense. It was Catholics and Orthodox who gave us the famous imagery of the 4 animals representing the Evangelists. It's stamped in every lectionary text. The imagery is purposeful and explicit in putting them at 4 corners, with Christ in the center. Not one is above the other.

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1902b3  No.849787

>>849786

To further add, a little catechesis here:

Matthew the Evangelist, the author of the first gospel account, is symbolized by a winged man, or angel. Matthew's gospel starts with Joseph's genealogy from Abraham; it represents Jesus' Incarnation, and so Christ's human nature. This signifies that Christians should use their reason for salvation.

Mark the Evangelist, the author of the second gospel account, is symbolized by a winged lion – a figure of courage and monarchy. The lion also represents Jesus' resurrection (because lions were believed to sleep with open eyes, a comparison with Christ in the tomb), and Christ as king. This signifies that Christians should be courageous on the path of salvation.

Luke the Evangelist, the author of the third gospel account (and the Acts of the Apostles), is symbolized by a winged ox or bull – a figure of sacrifice, service and strength. Luke's account begins with the duties of Zechariah in the temple; it represents Jesus's sacrifice in His Passion and Crucifixion, as well as Christ being High priest (this also represents Mary's obedience). The ox signifies that Christians should be prepared to sacrifice themselves in following Christ.

John the Evangelist, the author of the fourth gospel account, is symbolized by an eagle – a figure of the sky, and believed by Christian scholars to be able to look straight into the sun. John starts with an eternal overview of Jesus the Logos and goes on to describe many things with a "higher" christology than the other three (synoptic) gospels; it represents Jesus's Ascension, and Christ's divine nature. This symbolizes that Christians should look on eternity without flinching as they journey towards their goal of union with God.

And this goes back at least as far as Irenaeus. In the 2nd century, they were already listing the Man, the Lion, the Ox, and the Eagle. Jerome later used it in his own prefaces to the Vulgate.

So please, stop making your own church traditions up. We already have enough of you clowns as it is.

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00ba88  No.849805

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>>849786

No, the church, not a sect of the church, who began to use this imagery and continues today, like this Presbyterian church dome

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13ca38  No.849806

>>849787

>everything is equal because animal pictures

I can't even comprehend how someone can be as stupid as you. Wow…

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1902b3  No.849859

>>849806

"I say to you that for every idle word men may speak, they will give account of it in the day of judgment." - Matthew 12:36

And I just gave you the reasons why they're symbolized that way, and why all have to be learned equally. Yet you didn't read it all. And why do you even have a Catholic tag, when you reject some of it's oldest teachings? These are on every Gospel text in every liturgy, taught every Sunday, that even children recognize and get taught about. Yet you lash out as a bigger child than them. You're a poser who doesn't even seem to grasp basic catechesis, and just attacks people at first sight of it.

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0fb05c  No.849862

>>849859

You're so blinded by your emotions and hurt pride you can't understand a fact as simple as some books are better than others. Just because the Church accepts them all that doesn't mean marxist libtard magic somehow makes them all equally good. John is just better.

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1902b3  No.849865

>>849862

Marxism? Now I know you're just a troll. You don't seem to be even trying to do anything but push absurdities, just to get a reaction.

What I just said goes back to at least Irenaeus (2nd century), who was taught by Polycarp, who was a disciple of the Apostle John himself, whom you claim to admire so much. It was later elaborated in more detail by Saint Victorinus (3rd century). Then Sts. Jerome, Gregory the Great, Ambrose, Augustine, Thomas Aquinas, and so on and so forth. They all predate "Marxism" by millenia. So calling me "stupid" is the least of your problems. You just insulted some of the Church's greatest saints.

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420880  No.849868

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714ae2  No.849869

>>849865

Wow, you are triggered to high heaven. I already explained things can be holy without being equal in holiness but you just don't get it. You'd rather seethe than accept the Truth.

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000000  No.850623

Bros biting Satan's bait and scaring the OP away. We can do better. The Nicene Creed and the Sermon on the Mount are good to welcome a brother into the fold.

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2bdf9a  No.850646

>>849716

Sounds protestant.

God created 1 church, headed by Saint Peter. Thus, there is one Christian Church.

>>849723

>Like any religion there are endless interpretations

Just one.

> I consider a Christian to be someone who follows the teachings of Jesus.

Of which there is only one Church and one religion.

God did not leave room for personal interpretation.

>>849805

They copied that which came before in the true church. It is essential for their LARP.

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000000  No.853023

>>850646

OP simply wants the bare minimum of Christianity, to become more open to the ways of our Lord. To respond with theological pedantry is therefore a disservice and a mortal sin (vanity). Even if this discusion were pertinent, it would be so only at a later time. It is easier to correct a Christian in error than a gentile.

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