/christian/ - Christian Discussion and Fellowship

Congratulations!

>>826849

Thank you. It's good for all of us that there's someone to act as BO.

>>826847

Oh no.

>>826852

not a big fan of the font choice for the big banner at the top.

>just 1 anon's opinion>>826852

>>826852

That font is horrifying. Don't muck with CSS, please. If we want custom CSS, we can do it ourselves in Options.

Though you do need to change the link at the top to the log to:

https://sys.8kun.top/log.php?page=1&board=christian

It has to be sys.8kun or it goes to a 403.

>>826869

Everyone has the same ability to customize CSS to their liking in options whether we have board specific CSS or not. The font doesn't have to stay.

Board CSS encourages unique board culture.

>>826871

ty

>>826872

>Board CSS encourages unique board culture.

Perhaps, but this board already had a long standing culture without the need for custom CSS. Christ is our culture, not fancy text or pictures.

>>826847

NICE!

Can we re-add a cyclic, stickied prayer request thread? We ought to care for each other in our prayers.

>>826880

Would you accept a header link that goes to the same cyclical but unstickied prayer request thread?

>>826873

>that was not me

Excellent news.

Do you know what the "give his church's email to Jim" thing is about?

I just want to thank the BO for agreeing on migrating here instead of keeping /christianity/, even though the latter is more active. That being said, I hope this place will not become an anti-catholic circle jerk. Good luck BO.

>>826890

That was just a idea by that poster to deanonymize the BO to Jim so the board could have some assurance that the BO was Christian. I think it's kind of silly and unnecessary.

>>826891

An echo chamber by definition is when dissenting voices are absent or can't be heard. Board history shows we can all get along fine when there isn't partisan censorship.

If that ever becomes the case around here I hope an alternative board displaces this one again. That's the beauty of this site.

yo Boanerges, stick whatever font you like up – make your mark and do your thing if you want; people will either dislike it and complain or like it and find something else to complain about

also; props on getting rid of the 'Christanon' default moniker which was nonsense seeing as how many unbelievers frequent this place

or put it back on if you want so as i can complain about something while saging this sticky

Nearly 6 years of board culture destroyed by handing over the board to the the guy who runs "sfw /b/ with Jesus". That's nice. All our stickies gone, every rule changed, the Nicene Creed removed.

Well, ok guys. Enjoy.

>>826896

wtf why does that say Islam and s—?

>>826847

Jesus is coming soon. Call back the sinners and wake up the Saints. Praise be the Lord. Maranatha!

>>826891

Same, glad to see it united.

>>826847

Why did the papists give up being in charge of this board? I don't get it.

>>826896

>>826897

Boanerges (or his predecessor) appears to have checked "Show capcodes and usernames automatically" in the mod controls because >>826917 shows my >>>/cow/ account's username.

>>826896

>6 years

Don't exaggerate.

>sfw /b/ with Jesus

I'll admit that's true.

But honestly, my main issue is that he had /christianity/, it was genuinely more active than this place recently, and there was literally no reason for Jimmy to give him another board on the exact same subject.

The entire point of 8chan is that, if you don't like a place's moderation, you can make your own board. Why would you actually assist a man in monopolizing the old, traditional boards on some subject?

Lol.

>Catholicism: "One True Church that brings Unity."

>Caused greatest division and drama once it's mods got control.

>Boards are truly united once more now that Protestants are back in control.

>>826936

New board owner actually wants unity instead of petty division. Even locked up /christiantiy/ from having new posts.

>>826910

Probably thought the board was too unbecoming of them, and too "scandalous".

>>826937

There was a catholic BO before tutor and the board was fine. Even tutor was fine in the beginning.

We also don't know for sure who was doing the most egregious censorship because the logs were closed, who knows how often tutor even did anything.

Ultimately it doesn't matter anymore

>>826847

>Welcome! This is a board for Christian discussion.

Yeah nah, what you mean is "This is a board for catholics to make fun of protestants and trying to convert them".

>>826960

lurk more

>>826919

Ok, yeah, but I have nothing to do with Islam or whatever and that option is only for mods/vols on the board. That s— just appeared. I don't get it.

So is this just /christanity/ 2.0 now?

>>826910

Tutor's inner circle migrated discord.

>>826970

It doesn't have to be.

>>827136

No.

>>827136

The BO allowed an anime thread when he was over /christianity/. I say just go ahead and make a general. If people fuss, report them, hide them, and move on.

>>827140

This isn't /tutor&co'sflyingcircus/ anymore. if you don't like the liberty a person has in Christ, then shackle yourself to your church doors so you don't have to see us or our blessposting any longer.

Christian thoughts on anime is fine.

>>826896

>sfw /b/ with Jesus

Looks like that's where this board is heading >>827136

And I just now tried making a new board for non-degenerate Christianity, but that feature is disabled. So basically this website's fundamental feature (creating your own board) is dead, and both Christian boards belong to the guy who wants "sfw /b/ with Jesus". Good bye!

>>827192

Imagine getting this upset that people are allowed to talk about anime on an imageboard

>>827181

>Saying that watching anime is acceptable is equivalent to saying abominable sodomy is acceptable

Yeah, nah. I'll wait for the Scriptures that say so. Don't bother, they don't exist.

"If with Christ ayou died to the elemental spirits of the world, why, as if you were still alive in the world, do you submit to regulations–

21 "Do not handle, Do not taste, Do not touch"

22 (referring to things that all perish as they are used)– according to human precepts and teachings?

23 These have indeed an appearance of wisdom in promoting self-made religion and asceticism and severity to the body, but they are bof no value in stopping the indulgence of the flesh." (Col. 2:20-3:1 ESV)

>>827192

Bye! May you repent and actual follow Christ rather than the christ of your own making and making of whatever so-called church you belong to.

>>827192

>Good bye!

Thats unfortunate anon, I wish you well in your walk with the Lord.

testing

test

>>827245

Don't worry, they'll come back. They always do.

How was church/mass today anons?

tor check

Test

Test

The "Christian book library" mediafire spammer is probably malicious, why else would he spam it in unrelated threads when he has his own.

I recommend not clicking and that they be deleted.

is anyone else having difficulty with torposting? I either get 500 internal server error or it tells me I didn’t make a post instead of posting

test

test

posting images over tor appears to be impossible at the moment

>the christian boards on 8chan used to have 4-500 active isp's

>now we're down to 70

Why did they forsake us? Seems like they were as frivoulous with coming here as modern christians are with the religion.

>>828262

Yeah, the site's problems doesn't help.

>>828453

don't*

>>828453

The biggest reason for that drop I figure is that many major userbases entirely left the site, and others are now split between here and other sites. I think now everyone posting here really only posts here.

For another thing there's a new negative perception of 8kun as allegedly a honeypot.

>>828455

Well, the christian community wasn't active on the bunker cluster. They seem to have just left the chans when 8chan went down.

>>828190

well that was most terrifying thing I read all day… Guess it was a good thing I didn't download anything.

>>828453

How did it grow that big in the first place is what I like to know. Should we be looking for ways to promote this board on other sites or do we just wait for people to wander in here overtime?

>>828641

It was just because the site was very big from gamergate

feel free to recommend us on halfchan in relevant threads

>>828453

>For though your people, O Israel, may be like the sand of the sea, Only a remnant within them will return; A destruction is determined, overflowing with righteousness.

I posted on 8chan's /christian/ for about two years, is this the new place?

>>828946

This is the same board

there are too many months or years old threads on the frontpage

>>828979

It's in bump order

Did you change your own settings?

I thought we were sfw? Why do I see "anime pussies" on here. I can barely control my temptations at this point, but I want to, unfortunately this isn't helping.

>>829167

Link? Did you report them?

Do the unstickied cyclical threads not bump?

Who's the board owner? Is there a way to set up the board so threads have to wait for clearance by mods before being posted? Have to report literal porn on what's suppose to be sfw board just now…

>>829629

There's not a way to do that, sorry, and in my opinion it wouldn't be a good thing. The cons would outweigh that pro.

The best solution is to keep adding vols and to use the hide and report functions.

https://lynxchan.net

>our community keeps shrinking, even though 8chan used to have so many christians around

What can be done about this? The site's working better now. It's faster and more stable. Should we do some outreach somewhere?

>>830436

>even though 8chan used to have so many christians around

Well, it might have something to do with pedophiles and nazi shooters kicking us off the search engines, and now when you google us, the first links describing us as a den of stormfaggots and conspiratards(not that this website helps, with /pnd/ has slithered their way into being the first board again, and the QAnon crowd setting shop here, too)

>>830458

>it might have something to do with pedophiles and nazi shooters kicking us off the search engines

That's very dishonest. it was censorship-loving leftists that removed the site.

>pedophilia

There hadn't been any of that on 8chan in years.

>>830436

I recommend mentioning the board when there's Christian threads on halfchan

>>830483

>That's very dishonest.

No, that's precisely what has happened.

Child pornography on this site kicked us off the search engines, and every following restriction has been a direct response to individual mass shootings tied to /pol/ and friends.

Those 2 groups have been getting us into s— since day 1, so f*ck 'em.

Ayo apologies for the boomer moment but I'm trying to delete the file in my thread and it aint working since I didn't save the pass. Could mods delete the thread so I could remake it? Apologies, I haven't posted here in months and even then I never needed to delete my own file/post

https://8kun.top/christian/res/830732.html

this is the thread btw

Happy easter, friends. What are you doing today?

https://github.com/Adamantcheese/Kuroba

Remove this

https://media.8kun.top/file_store/6c1f86b70c6a5e069a0f747b2c96a327fcc434707612aa51e5d1b4ca24d5cca5.png

The cross is pagan idolatry. I'm not going to do your homework for you, this information is readily available.

So I saw there's a new christian board on the new 9chan website. Is anybody moving over there? I don't like the community being divided again between two boards.

>>831852

>So I saw there's a new christian board on the new 9chan website. Is anybody moving over there? I don't like the community being divided again between two boards.

I don't like splits but 9chan works much better than 8kun.

9chan allows tor posting and does not require JS.

>>831852

>>831886

This board works over Tor and without js. We also have kuroba support and most importantly an existing userbase.

Samefagging your new site is only a cause for suspicion.

>>831888

>This board works over Tor and without js. We also have kuroba support and most importantly an existing userbase.

How do you post without JS? I just get an error.

>Error

>An error has occured.

>You didn't make a post.

>Samefagging your new site is only a cause for suspicion.

Not samefagging. Why would you think that?

>>831893

You fill out a captcha first

>>831895

>You fill out a captcha first

I can't get it to work. I filled out the captcha successfully at http://jthnx5wyvjvzsxtu.onion/dnsbls_bypass.php?PageSpeed=noscript first but I just got that error again when I tried to post. I had to enable JS to post this.

>>831425

You catholics love the crucifix because it holds Jesus up to ridicule and scorn. The cross is an idol from pagan rome, a sacrifice was made on one unto their sun god who is ultimately satan.

When you freaks aren't crying "prot prot prot" you're crying "da j00s da j00s da j00s". It'd be funny if it wasn't so sick. When catholics were caught kidnapping children and selling them to catholic families, they were pointing the finger at jews saying they'd steal your kids. Ignoring of course, the never-ending child abuse from the Vat-of-sin (also all the pagan idolatry in Rome). I'm sure you'd even defend the phallic obelisk without even knowing its occult/pagan roots.

>>832017

1 Corinthians 1:26-29

GOD ALL POWERFUL LOVES EVERYONE AND EVERYONE HIS GREAT PEOPLE!!

>>826938

>>826938

>>831896

>I can't get it to work. I filled out the captcha successfully at http://jthnx5wyvjvzsxtu.onion/dnsbls_bypass.php?PageSpeed=noscript first but I just got that error again when I tried to post. I had to enable JS to post this.

The onion is broken. You can post using https://8kun.top.

This site is garbage, slow as hell, and tells me posts failed when they work and won't let me deleted duplicate threads.

>>831886

>>831852

>>831888

>>831893

>>831895

>>831896

>>832649

Just migrate to anon.cafe, instead of whatever unknown, hard to find splinter board.

Place seems comfy, and high quality.

>>832663

dead splinter board

>>832666

It's probably not full of pagan retards who think they're Christian by disobeying Christ's own words though.

>>832663

we shouldn't split due to a technicality, we're too alike and few in numbers.

>>832797

What do you mean by technicality?

>>832799

I think he means site technical reasons

>empty default name field

Could you change it to something like "Anonymous" or "Christanon"?

The main issue is literally that I can't see if people are saging like this.

>>>/christian/832728

>>>/christian/832737

>>>/christian/832743

>>>/christian/832750

>>>/christian/832785

i've not been here for a while maybe a year and a half since regularly coming here, then when it was still up less frequently only to see how ridiculously corrupt and heavy handed the catholic mafia modding had gotten. Still don't come here regularly any more but assumed the new moderation would improve it, but how in the hell has it gotten so lax that this level of discourse and vitrol is permitted without rebuke?

>>833329

Are there any secondary reasons? Threads don't really die around here and default names only add clutter.

>>833399

Not deleting bad posts isn't lax moderation, it's a deliberate choice.

>>833438

who said anything about deleting bad posts

>>833399

Basically, the board owner never read Goldilocks and the Three Bears.

>>833438

I'd also complain about how it's jarring to look at, in particular because just about everywhere else has a default name, but it's mostly the sage thing.

>default names only add clutter

I disagree, but that's aesthetics.

>>833525

What kind of rebuke were you thinking of?

>>833559

How do you like this?

>>833569

>What kind of rebuke

a literal one - google the word and it says '[to] express sharp disapproval or criticism of (someone) because of their behaviour or actions,' that would do and so would a ban, 100% warranted in light of rule 3

>>831852

Mind linking to 9chan

>>833677

9chan is run by trannyfarms. Consider exiting the internet the /christian/ bunker on anon.cafe

>>833677

>Mind linking to 9chan

https://9chan.tw

http://ninechnjd5aaxfbcsszlbr4inp7qjsficep4hiffh4jbzovpt2ok3cad.onion/

>>833617

Glad you approve

>>833582

Anyone is welcome to rebuke any poster. Those are particularly rude posts but they went unreported, I know I don't follow every angry debate on the board personally. Feel free to report similar posts in the future but know we err on the lenient side. Sageing and hiding is also good practice.

>>833677

>>833698

9chan /christian/ is currently the most popular alt board and has been linked in the header as our bunker

>>833701

>Feel free to report similar posts in the future

I reported these on the evening I made the first post about them

>but know we err on the lenient side

<dumb arrogant prideful pompous

<stupid

<retarded dumpster baby pagan

<snot-nosed brats

Sensing level of snide and vitrol behind them I think these are incredibly rude and indenfensible coming out of the mouth of a supposed 'Christian' directed to a fellow brother clearly. If they were in a lighter tone or somehow put forward in a different context however then I can see how they might be excused on a lenient mod policy. Heck, in quite a different, appropriate context some of these could comprise some good vocab for light hearted diggs you might be tempted to throw out to someone at one time or another.

Your leniency, however makes an absolute mockery of rule 3 (and rule 5 but that's a useless/meaningless rule anyway) when posts containing attacks such as the following are permitted:

<subhuman going to hell

<subhuman pagn retard

<cathcult subhuman

<subhuman retard

Genuine question: Just what exactly is the point of having rules if you're not going to bother enforcing them? By way of a reminder, rule 3 is pasted here for you and other anons:

3: No excessively rude comments

I normally wouldn't care but I'm actually shocked at your nonchalance about the above posts which has necessitated this post. You guys have a responsibility to get your moderation right. I implore you to actually take that responsibility and the enforcing of the rules seriously.

I already qualified that I was of the view that the opposite modding approach (perma banning anyone that breathes and deleting all of their and their aunty's posts) made for a completely disfunctional board (as already alluded to, all of the threads that had any potential for any interesting discussion ended up having half the posts missing) that just pushed people away because of how pointless being here became. Again, I implore you to get your moderation right and take it seriously.

You have the opportunity to (attempt to - I'm bringing expectation down a notch given I know we're on a chan..) curate and fashion an excellent, edifying, engaging, balanced, fair and just board with this place, and make a big improvement on what the last one became. But by allowing s— like that quoted in the above posts it is being wasted and you're negging on your responsibiliy as mods. Like I said normally I wouldn't care but something about the vitrol and repeated attack of 'subhuman' and condeming to hell from one (v unstable sounding) 'Christian' to another that has got to me, but what has frustrated me more is the reaction to it. Your leniency in light of posts like these does you guys and everyone else here a disservice.

>>833813

Some SDA came on here for a few days and carpet bombed the threads with vitriol. I don't still see him posting now. With these kind of things it's best to just shrug it off if its really getting under your skin. Dealing with this is a whole lot better than having an inquisition declared and having someone put you over a rack for having "wrong" beliefs

>>833846

>With these kind of things it's best to just shrug it off if its really getting under your skin

I'd happily shrug it off, no matter how nasty the comments, if the rules of the board permitted such dialogue. If rule 3 wasn't part of the rules I'd have no grounds to complain to you guys that an injustice has occured. But rule 3 is part of the rules.

>Dealing with this is a whole lot better than having an inquisition declared and having someone put you over a rack for having "wrong" beliefs

Did you read my posts? I've twice already explicitly stated dealing with it this way (previous mod regime) is not good. I just strongly advised enforcing rules when they're clearly broken in order to make a better board.

not loving the default † in the name field, seeing as many posters on here aren't Christians

as an aside, would it be possible to decrease the size of the font for the disclaimer attached to each post, as it's current positioning on the bottom of each post draws the eye and takes away from the content?

>>834349

Options > hide post disclaimer

>>834354

lol how did i miss that

cheers

board css breaks when playing embed OP videos

PSA if you're making a new thread and it times out, don't make a new one. Go post a reply in any other thread and your new thread will show up.

Site problem.

>>836439

google translate says "there is no saint"

>>836439

Pretty sure it's supposed to mean "Not saintly", as in, the image behind the spoiler isn't saintly/christian/appropriate.

t. portuguese speaker

>Even on a Christian board, use tor or a trusted VPN.

Can someone explain why?

What do I risk if I don't use Tor?

Tor is too slow.

>>836768

ask /tech/

>>836768

Your isp collects your data and gives it to the federal government, who shares it with other world governments, as leaked by Snowden. It's called prism.

This website has been associated with terrorism. Tor or vpns provide varying levels of privacy or anonymity, depending on who you ask and define the terms.

>>836439

Broken latin of catholarpers.

>>828453

I'm glad that this board purged itself out. The userbase became cucked and toxic in early 2018 and became only worse the more time went on. I was banned for giving an alternative explaination for the creation account of man, with the reasoning "you don't belong here". It seems all these discord-posters are out, and it is good that way.

>>828453

Because /pol/tards repeatedly nuked us off the Internet.

>>837064

>alternative explaination for the creation account of man

Let me guess, something about Adamites and pre-Adamites?

>>837068

Yeah, but not what the CI movement is preaching. Simply stating that God created different races of man at different points in time.

CSS updated for bigger catalog viewing

For some reasons mods deleted my thread about there being mythology in the Bible and here is my response to a particular Prot who responded to my thread.

>>839089

>When I see you say this, what you are saying to me is that parts of the Bible are a system of fables respecting the deities of heathen nations. I disagree.

Or rather re purposing them to monotheism, worship of the true God, who is YHWH. Christianity has historically baptized pagan things and turned them Christian. St. Paul literally reappropriates a hymn to Zeus in Acts 17 to the God of Israel, he literally says that their unknown God is the God of Israel as well. He is directing the false worship of those deities, deities who are personifications of nature, to the transcendent God who exists outside of nature. The very idea of Logos is "pagan". It comes from the Greeks, but the writers of the NT and LXX recognized that it was the same thing as what the original author of Genesis 1 was talking about when he narrates how God created the world. They baptized it. 1 Corinthians 9:19-23

>So are you saying the system of fables for heathen nations is true? Or, are you saying every person has his or her own truth, so, in some remote sense, everything is "true" even mythology?

Not saying there are multiple truths. But there are truths in pagan mythology, yes. There are "truths" contained in every religion, and if I remember correctly the Catechism of the RCC admits this. Christianity is the fullness of the truth, it is the sum of it all. In a lot of mythological and religious traditions there are common archetypes. Don't you believe in Adam and Eve? Don't you believe we all come from a single source?

>And?

And?

>And?

And?

>And?

And?

>And?

And?

Look I can do it too.

>That's a straw man.

No it's pretty much admitted by every historic Christian church, including high church Protestants, and every respectable student of the scriptures.

>Association fallacy. Just because Hitler drank water doesn't comprise an argument that we should not drink water.

How is that an association fallacy? I gave an example of how you butcher Biblical symbolism. I made no fallacy based on association, you're straw manning. I said you do the same with Genesis 1 but with apocalyptic literature I was simply giving an example but not immediately making it follow that because you interpret Revelation wrong you must also be interpreting Genesis wrong. It was an example and you are straw manning.

>>839095

When I say mythology I'm not using it how fedoras use it. They blew it up into semantic overload. I am using it in its proper context and not pejoratively. Just because something is myth does not mean its fiction.

>>839109

Whoops I may have, if I did I didn't mean to. I was trying to delete a post I made to reedit it but after I did that the whole thread disappeared.

I've disabled the early 404 setting because I suspect it's what shows up as "user deleted his own post" in the logs. Disabling this makes us potentially more susceptible to raids but we're still limited to 3 threads per hour.

Related, anyone who wants to help by becoming a mod is welcome to email me.

>>839176

yea sure mods =>fake christians! some threads got deleted in this board some guy post about children in cages in US news and his thread got deleted and his thread is another board

There is a non-trinitarian proselytizing for several weeks on this board. Shouldn't he find a more suitable board than the Christian one? We don't worship the same God, he is promoting a false heathen god on here for a long time now.

Can we have some respect for the God of the Bible?

>For all the gods of the nations are idols: but the LORD made the heavens.

>>839435

He means well. He isn't trolling or spamming the board. While he holds heterodox views, he isn't shoving them down our throats. I would much rather have someone like him around who can be influenced by our views and perhaps comes around to our orthodoxy, instead of kicking him off the board where he remains in his heterodoxy.

>>835243

Seriously?! how annoying

>>839967

>>835243

Nope. It still doesn't work for me.

>>839523

I disagree wholeheartedly and I don't appreciate the false flag if that's what this is. The guy is persistently inculcating everything in anti-God blasphemy, it's on purpose it's a conceived strategy and its meant with smooth talk to get people going along with it just as cults do and it just shouldn't be left on this board. It's blasphemy. What about the real God? Aren't we forgetting somebody really important here?

If a person actually had any regard or respect for the things of God's word this would get to you. It doesn't matter that some false prophet has spoken flattering words to your ears. That shouldn't be as important as the fact it's promoting an abhorrent blasphemous non-christian false entity masquerading as the living God of the Bible. Can someone please do something about this? Is there no moderation?

>>840393

We're essentially a second wave of posters because the previous clan abandoned it for their tradlarp discord

>>840436

You're telling me that all the posters on 8ch/christian/ now inhabit a discord channel? That makes no sense. I can maybe see a small number of the Catholics doing that but there's no way the majority of /christian/ abandoned imageboards in favour of discord of all things.

>>840446

The majority userbase now sits on the tradcath discord run by tutor and does not return.

>>840448

Before those guys took over, there was indeed a bigger userbase, but I think this mainly had to do with the original site as a whole having more surfers coming to it, and it not being blacklisted by ""them"" in all the search engines and so forth. In order to get such a big userbase you need a faster waterfall of random hits coming into your site, however now everything's blacklisted because it ain't kosher with the politically correct kabal. Just my theory.

>>840488

>however now everything's blacklisted because it ain't kosher with the politically correct kabal.

Or you know, because of the mass shootings that the janitors did jack s— to prevent from occuring again, despite repeated events like that happening, connected to this place.

>>840735

Anon, they had this site targeted for a takedown for a long time prior to this. It didn't matter what nonsense reason they could find, they took the first thing they could in order to try to shut it down. There was no reasonably preventing it, none of it happened for a reasonable cause; people have posted abuse to facebook and twitter, yet they didn't have their legal protections revoked. Not that I'm some kind of shill for this site, but come on.

>>840759

> It didn't matter what nonsense reason

>none of it happened for a reasonable cause; people have posted abuse

It was literally MULTIPLE MASS SHOOTINGS.

If thats not a justified reason, i dont know what is.

If the retards on /pol/ and their mods couldnt self-police the place from descending itself into literal terrorism, despite knowing they are already in hot water, and secret agencies are on their ass, that the blame for the place getting booted falls squarely on them.

>>840988

And? At the same time they also posted their same stuff to instagram, but I don't see that site taken down.

You can't just selectively blame one website and not another, if that's what you're going to do. The language you use is inexact because the media was simply told to report it as if it was all caused in one place, despite no facts actually reflecting this. It was posted on other large social media websites. Shooting stuff from many incidents have also been posted on other websites as well, I'm just not seeing them getting hit by a coordinated media attack that blames them for it. You see, it wasn't that any of this actually happened. People were not plotting on here any more than they were on instagram. It's similar to a lot of corrupt things happening in media right now in case you haven't noticed. Though maybe you just started paying attention.

>>841422

That's retarded whataboutism, and you know it.

The Facebook ecosystem(Facebook, Instagram, Whatsapp) does get criticized and called to accountancy for permitting violent and/or illegal s— from getting streamed on their platforms, and they have a massive AI+Human moderation team that literally winnie the pooh themselves up psychologically dealing with this stuff, and still don't cover it all, since we are talking about billions of users posting countless things every day.

8chan, by contrast, is a tiny site with low traffic, so it can self-moderate just fine.

And before you say "well, they can't cover all this 24/7", need i remind you that we also had a CP problem in the early days, that also got us with warnings of getting shut down for it, and the mods promptly stamped it out just fine?

However, the fags on /pol/ were unable, or unwilling, to police their community from going too far, so the blame falls on them.

And it's just /pol/.

/tech/ wasnt shooting up Genius Bars, /islam/ wasnt getting livestreams from salafi militia beheadings and ISIS manifestos posted on their board, /qanon/ isn't organizing armed witchhunts for the deepstate, etc.

Literally every other board, on every chan on this planet, is doing just fine, not murdering anyone, or having to explain itself in front of Congress for their retarded members doing terrorism, even when their membership includes people that are literally mentally ill, except one.

So yes, that puss-filled tumor of a community is to blame for getting us offline.

>>841431

Let's consider for a moment that a dedicated and resourceful group decides to use their vast resources (including their assets like Crusius or Tarrant) to harm - a tiny site with low traffic - and low funds - 8chan. How can 8chan defend from such a group? A common sense would say it can't. And yet it prevailed.

8chan was attacked tremendously since the early days. First they came for 8chan's financing (remember Fredrick getting deplatformed by every single financial service? Except for Bitcoin, but Bitcoin was quite hard to obtain and process at this time). Then the DDoS attacks - expensive to deflect, hurting the wallet even more. Most websites of this size would collapse at this point. Later attacks are just a history. At some point the groups being most harmed by 8chan (/pol/) exposing the truth had to resort to false flag terrorism to effectively shut down this website for many months.

>Literally every other board, on every chan on this planet, is doing just fine, not murdering anyone, or having to explain itself in front of Congress for their retarded members doing terrorism

Literally every other board complied by disallowing citizen investigations or were too small for anyone to bother. Except for when 8chan came down and a false flag was organized on Endchan.

Now, don't get me wrong - I don't say that Crusius or Tarrant weren't 8chan users. Those dedicated and resourceful groups were here from the beginning, maybe even conditioning aforementioned people using 8chan. 8chan should have self-moderated back then, but it didn't for many reasons.

>>841911

Ah yes, false flags, infiltrators, dindu nuffin, never our fault, that old gem.

Bulls—, the deplatforming was intentional, but the shooting were a consequence of the rot infecting /pol/.

And the fact that they did nothing to distance themselves from them, or prevent it from happening again, despite shootings happening multiple times and being warmed that it would result in termination, means they are responsible.

Again, we kicked CP off our platform just fine, so "there was nothing we could do" is bulls— of the highest order.

>>841919

>false flags

>infiltrators

You assume that those people having an interest in keeping some things secret did nothing in defense? Fair enough, I also thought so.

I didn't say:

>dindu nuffin

>never our fault

I clearly stated:

>8chan should have self-moderated back then

And I clearly stated:

>Those dedicated and resourceful groups were here from the beginning

We can't talk about /pol/ as if this influence didn't exist, because it was integral.

>And the fact that they did nothing to distance themselves from them

OK. That's a fair point. 8chan administration had a wealth of possibilities and they chose to do nothing except for a few public messages disavowing the murderers. Would doing something else change what happened? Possibly, but we may never know, because I don't think anything short of complying with the terrorist demand of removal of an open political discourse field could have stopped what happened next.

>Again, we kicked CP off our platform just fine, so "there was nothing we could do" is bulls— of the highest order.

CP is fairly easy to classify. The problem of preventing harmful conditioning is hard if not outright impossible, especially if part of it was possibly happening outside of the platform. If you really think it's just about removal of threats and loaded messages, then think again, really.

Now we have some power of hindsight and we can criticize previous actions, but the landscape has shifted and the Internet has matured a bit. It looks to be calmer now. Let's pray to Christ for His forgiveness and guidance for the Internet stewards.

>>841919

Agree. /pol/ must be dealt with somehow, lest they screw up even more. Say what you want, but 4/pol/ has not caused the mayhem 8/pol/ has .. at least not to my knowledge. If they cannot self regulate themselves, they need to make some hard choices if they wish to not repeat what happened last august. I was separated from /christian/ when I felt very alone in my life. I blame /pol/ for isolating me from talking to like minded people.

>>841950

You should blame the Jews

>>841919

>>841950

Stop being cucks. There had been a concerted effort to demonize and shut this place down ever since it was created, this is obviously because this is (was) one of the very last bastions of socio-politically unacceptable free speech and dissent on the internet. The original proxy that they used for years was all the pedophiles, then when the opportunity presented itself, it became those ebil racists (which were clearly responsible for the actions of another person, right?). They were finally able to get their efforts to destroy 8chan into the mainstream media and they were able to pressure cloudflare (though, that's not to say the (((higher ups))) at cloudflare weren't in on it, remember how they stood by 8chan explicitly, then in the very same day they declared they wouldn't do anything suddenly flip-flopped and announced their intention to cancel service to 8chan? Seems pretty obvious that (((someone))) with a lot of influence called and ordered them to change their minds). By agreeing with that effort, you are playing right into their hand and shooting yourself in the foot

>>841919

Ok cuck, how exactly was /pol/ supposed to "prevent" the shooting? Since when do we judge people for the actions of others? Why didn't you prevent the shooting Anon, did you want those people dead? Can you tell me one way they could have prevented it without proving my entire point and playing into their hand by saying they should have changed/suppressed their speech? And it's amazing that you claim /pol/ never distanced itself from the shooting right after you list various ways /pol/ has distanced itself from the shooting since the day it happened; "false flags, infiltrators, dindu nuffin, never our fault". Do you think these are endorsements, you utter imbecile?

>>842060

>his only argument is shrieking cuck and jews at everything

>>842067

>oh he said cuck and Jew, that means I can dismiss everything he said

>>842090

if you take those 2 things out, you are left with an awfully skeletal argument

>>842110

Whatever helps you sleep at night

>>842110

I came into this whole thing ready to side with you, but >>842060 is literally one of the most rational arguments I've ever heard. How could anyone with half a brain not see that this is clearly what's going on?

The leftists and the government elites are working to bring freedom of speech to an end and getting "free companies" to crack down on mean words and naughty opinions is just the beginning. They're going to pull and stretch the already loose definition of "hate speech" in order to silence anything that the so called politically correct mob deems unacceptable.

A message board/website/public platform of any sort is never responsible for any of its users deciding to violate the law, /pol/ can't be blamed for a shooting anymore than you can blame YouTube for pedophiles commenting on kid's videos.

>>842228

>is literally one of the most rational arguments I've ever heard.

How the winnie the pooh is it rational?

If you remove the "UR A CUCK", and "the joos are out to get us", the only thing you are left with is a vague "moderation is impossible", which is bull, since that's why we have mods in the first place.

Yes, you can't police it 100%, but even having more prompt standards for responding to pro-violence red flags, and taking down the mass shootings posts immediately would have likely stopped it, especially since there were 2 shootings for /pol/ to get it's s— together(and again, you don't even have to police the entire chan, just one problematic board).

>anymore than you can blame YouTube for pedophiles commenting on kid's videos

Except Youtube did take measures against that.

Algorithm huntbots and comment banning for videos pedos like to comment on.

Imperfect?

Yes, but it mostly solved the problem.

>The leftists and the government elites are working to bring freedom of speech to an end and getting "free companies" to crack down on mean words and naughty opinions is just the beginning. They're going to pull and stretch the already loose definition of "hate speech" in order to silence anything that the so called politically correct mob deems unacceptable.

The left is becoming stalinistic indeed, but don't make me laugh with your free speech invocation.

I saw how spammy, cancerous and loving of varied and moderate viewpoints this place had become shortly before it got shutdown.

/pol/ cares about free speech as much as the New Left cared about free speech in the 60's:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Speech_Movement

Just butthurt that their totalitarian bs wasn't accepted by the general society, so they can dominate the public discourse.

We saw how culturally corrosive those idiots being let loose in police society ended up being, so I'm not gonna prop up the other side of that diarrheic identity politics autism, just because their PR isn't that good at the moment.

/pol/ is that blame for the s— we are in at the moment. Everything else is just shifting responsability.

>>842267

>How the winnie the pooh is it rational?

Cry harder

>If you remove the "UR A CUCK", and "the joos are out to get us", the only thing you are left with is a vague "moderation is impossible"

I don't know why you insist on misrepresenting me so badly. You know other people can read my post, right?

>Yes, you can't police it 100%, but even having more prompt standards for responding to pro-violence red flags, and taking down the mass shootings posts immediately would have likely stopped it, especially since there were 2 shootings for /pol/ to get it's s— together(and again, you don't even have to police the entire chan, just one problematic board).

Hmm, it's weird, it feels as if though someone predicted this anti-free-speech thought policing argument… >>842060

<Can you tell me one way they could have prevented it without proving my entire point and playing into their hand by saying they should have changed/suppressed their speech?

>taking down the mass shootings posts immediately would have likely stopped it

You are literally retarded if you think taking the post down would have stopped him from killing people, and I am glad it was left up as long as it was because it enabled /pol/ to respond, and even in that thread you had a majority of people calling him some variety of shill, so it demolishes the claim /pol/ never distanced themselves from it, because they distanced themselves from it as it was happening.

>Yes, but it mostly solved the problem.

No it didn't (that is it stopped them from harassing those children, but nothing else), it put the problem out of sight. Pedophiles are still watching and commenting on those videos, they're just doing the latter on other websites. Of course we shouldn't allow people to sexually harass children, but let's not pretend that banning pedophiles from youtube comments sections has gotten rid of them. And that is a relevant point to be made here, that you can't eradicate the wrongthink you determine to be "violent ideas" by suppressing the speech of the people who believe those ideas. Shutting them up will not change their minds. Instead, it will drive them elsewhere where you can't reach them and galvanize them in their opposition to you.

>/pol/ is that blame for the s— we are in at the moment. Everything else is just shifting responsability.

Yes, good goy! Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain, just silence those bad goyim

Why don't you two answer the /pol/ and the Jewish question in a thread about it instead of the meta

>>841431

>and still don't cover it all, since we are talking about billions of users posting countless things every day.

Exactly. So, you don't see the media starting a coordinated campaign to single out any of those sites. You don't see them stomping their feet up and down, making a conniption fit over any of those posts with media reports. They could tomorrow if they chose to. But first of all they know those sites are too big, also second of all because those sites are already well within speech policing norms. Yet regardless, you don't see any of those sites being targeted with media stories as if every single one on the site including the owners are in on the plot of what one person posted there, and who also posted on other sites. You just don't normally see these bizarre stories that make insinuations that everyone on it is part of a terrorist cell on the basis of what one post, which was placed on multiple websites, said. It's clear there was a pre-existing agenda and no matter what anyone did, they would still blame them for something or another, no matter how unreasonable, and call in the hit squad to get them shut down.

The site was already targeted for takedown prior to any of this happening; it's obvious why. And so they just took the most convenient crisis by never letting a crisis go to waste, to take out a site that someone just didn't like for whatever reason they had probably related to free speech. They did it by fabricating a story through pure insinuation by implying without any factual basis that every single person on the site was a terrorist. If you look at the stories they ran, this is the distinct impression they make. It's very similar to a lot of other media corruption nowadays. Some person will use that corrupt system for character assassinations in the political sphere, for very similar self-motivated reasons: making up false stories as they go (probably by commission toward one of the media moguls that controls AP or reuters), in order to poison the well against whoever they think would be damaged by such a story. The news only reports things that go through the "official mainstream" new agencies. There is your ministry of truth right there. It controls what gets reported as facts. If they say some site is responsible, then from then on that becomes ground truth for all mainstream media reporting. Yet the actual facts in the case, such as that this was an unreasonable charge made selectively against one site and not another, have zero weight on any of this henceforward for the mainstream news.

If you still haven't figured any of this out yet, you are in for some real big surprises in the future as someone that far disconnected from the reality of how this stuff works.

>having to explain itself in front of Congress for their retarded members doing terrorism

The only reason for this is the AP or reuters hitpiece. Those are the people who control whether any of these things happen, not actual facts or investigations. They didn't like 8chan, there happened a useful crisis, so they strategically wrote the untruthful smear story. And that became the only truth mainstream media ever knew.

Rest of what you wrote is dismantled by this fact. Also all you have to have done in order to have survived this thread, is pay attention to what's been going on with the very same corrupt media people for the last, I dunno how long. Since Trayvon Martin at least. One false report, one set of talking points becomes incontrovertible truth to every cable channel and talkshow and nothing outside of it is allowed to be mentioned or considered. Except outside of this little progressive-only echo chamber, where the same are trying to inhibit or shut down conversation. You'll never hear anyone in mainstream talk about how MLK was a deviant according to declassified papers in 2017. Because that's not the official narrative.

>>842342

>Exactly. So, you don't see the media starting a coordinated campaign to single out any of those sites. You don't see them stomping their feet up and down, making a conniption fit over any of those posts with media reports.

Except they had big campaigns to murder their ad campaigns on those platforms over this stuff until they got that stuff together.

And 0,00000000000000000000000000001% of posts being bad on a platform that has billions is like having 15 murders in New York versus 5 in some sleepy town in the middle of nowhere.

The former is a statistical blip, the latter means you have a problem with crime.

>>842302

>Hmm, it's weird, it feels as if though someone predicted

Kind of hard to be a prediction when it's the post i'm referencing.

>You are literally retarded if you think taking the post down would have stopped him from killing people

It's not about stopping people from killing, it's about yanking the medium ASAP, so no one can accuse us of anything.

>and I am glad it was left up as long as it was because it enabled /pol/ to respond, and even in that thread you had a majority of people calling him some variety of shill, so it demolishes the claim /pol/ never distanced themselves from it, because they distanced themselves from it as it was happening.

-we have no archive, so that telling of events is unprovable;

-that was not given as evidence in Congress, so it's irrelevant;

>should have changed/suppressed their speech?

Self-moderating against literal terrorism isn't suppressing free speech, unless you believe Boko Haram are also victims of censorship.

>that is it stopped them from harassing those children, but nothing else

That's good enough.

The fact that pedos are gonna congregate on some crappy deep web site in the middle of nowhere has been a thing forever, and the police has tools for that.

>And that is a relevant point to be made here, that you can't eradicate the wrongthink you determine to be "violent ideas" by suppressing the speech of the people who believe those ideas. Shutting them up will not change their minds. Instead, it will drive them elsewhere where you can't reach them and galvanize them in their opposition to you.

Dude, we are talking about unloading M-16's into brown people.

Cut the "this is the USSR again" crap.

>Yes, good goy! Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain, just silence those bad goyim

Yes, the jewish man be keeping you down.

You faggots sound like those twats in the ghetto:

>why does the police patrols this block a lot?

>BECAUSE THEY ARE RACIST AND PROFILE OUR INNOCENT ASSES OUT OF THE BLUE! A FEW BAD APPLES! A.C.A.B!

>>842353

>Kind of hard to be a prediction when it's the post i'm referencing.

You aren't very bright, are you?

>It's not about stopping people from killing, it's about yanking the medium ASAP, so no one can accuse us of anything.

Did that even make sense to you? It's also not the claim you were making the rest of the thread. What happened to the mods somehow having a responsibility to "prevent the shooting"?

>-we have no archive, so that telling of events is unprovable

Well that's no problem friend, because I was there. So you can take for granted that it is true. And it will be completely unsurprising to anyone who has spent years on this website (which we both know excludes you) that it's true, because it's the way /pol/ reacts to all actions that are taken in their name, especially violent ones. Anyone who has spent time on /pol/ in the past (which, again, excludes you) has seen people prepose violence, or even merely the subtle threat of violence through something like an armed protest, and get called a shill or a fed by everybody else.

>-that was not given as evidence in Congress, so it's irrelevant

No, Anon, what's irrelevant is this point

>Self-moderating against literal terrorism

You know full well you are lying right now, everything that has been said so far has demonstrated you are lying right now, but we will get to that down below.

>The fact that pedos are gonna congregate on some crappy deep web site in the middle of nowhere

What makes you think they're hiding in the deep web?

>the police has tools for that

Since you failed my last challenge so badly, here's a new one: can you make a post where at least one thing you say is not literal propaganda?

>Dude, we are talking about unloading M-16's into brown people.

No, we aren't. You know full well we aren't. What we are talking about is the steady advance of the Jews in power in the goal of enforcing their control by suppressing anything that defies them. The real reason why (((they))) shut down 8chan was not simply to get rid of /pol/; it was to get rid of /pol/, and to get rid of /liberty/, and to get rid of /christian/; it was to take away the ability of those who already defy them to express their views, and to take away spaces for anyone to defy them. This was the advance of the totalitarian culture of death to tread underfoot anyone who does not submit and conform to their will for our societies, nothing more. Even if you had a point about /pol/ it would not matter, because the site going down was not just a normal occurrence in a normal world, it was a battle in an international culture war. The only question that remains for any of us is "whose side are you on". It's very clear which side you are on.

>Cut the "this is the USSR again" crap.

Hey, remember in literally the last post you made before this when you said "The left is becoming stalinistic indeed"? I remember, but I can see why you'd forget seeing as this was clearly just something you said before trying to undermine it because you understood if you came right out and directly contradicted that claim from the start that nobody here would take you seriously. Isn't weird that you're telling us there is no totalitarian leftist establishment in the same series of posts where you're trying to convince us to support the totalitarian leftist establishment's efforts to suppress dissent against itself?

I looked at every post your ID has made in this thread. Each one has been about this topic, and each one has been nothing but propaganda for the official narrative trying to get us to harm ourselves by helping the establishment censor other dissenters against it. Why are you even here? I doubt some redditer or something would come to this board specifically to pretend to be a regular and shill for the culture of death to those 8chan bigots. It's obvious to me why you're here, but I'm sure you'll jump all over me for pointing it out. Not that I care. You're here because you're being paid to do this. I would not have openly accused you of it until you made it so obvious with this post. We've known that paid shills are a thing for a long time, and at times they have been so inept as to accidentally out themselves. For example, remember that time when the very shooting we're talking about happened and a small minority of posters in the thread were defending the killing and advocating for more, and the FBI released documents relating to an investigation of "domestic terrorism" on 8chan, and included a printed out screencap of one of the posts, and it included that slanted (You) next to word Anonymous? You know, that thing that only the person who actually made the post can see? I await you to prove me right by responding to this with "tinfoil hat" or something similarly inane. winnie the pooh off, you piece of s—

>Yes, the jewish man be keeping you down.

It is really pathetic how predictable you are. Get new material before you come back.

test

>>842435

>You aren't very bright, are you?

I already mentioned "the jews are out to get us" as your driving argument both before and after the post, so trying to invoke it as some prediction or strategy expose means nothing.

>Did that even make sense to you? It's also not the claim you were making the rest of the thread. What happened to the mods somehow having a responsibility to "prevent the shooting"?

It's part of the argument.

Taking down the thread, and banhammering anything that promotes violence both limits any sort of podium for the shooters, helps prevent future incidents, and would make for a great legal and PR disclaimer.

>anyone who has spent years on this website (which we both know excludes you

I've been here almost since the board got started, before flags were even a suggestion, when we had a poll to determine our patron saint(it's St. Augustine of Hippo, but it's somewhat debated, since the orthodox don't have him in their saint list), when we made selections of theological writings to be turned into torrents and infographics.

If you don't believe me, you can ask around.

There was also a catholic that spammed non-stop about the Fall of Constantinople.

Good place, until it increasingly got ruined by you spamming your cancerous obsession with blacks and jews everywhere(and you say the woke crowd is annoying for plastering their garbage into every discussion).

>Well that's no problem friend, because I was there. So you can take for granted that it is true.

Ah, well that settles it.

Now, if you have some actual proof, that would be lovely.

>You know full well you are lying right now, everything that has been said so far has demonstrated you are lying right now, but we will get to that down below.

Uuu, spooky.

>What makes you think they're hiding in the deep web?

Oh, they are adept at making nests in dark corners of various social sites, but that comes with the circumstances, too.

>What we are talking about is the steady advance of the Jews in power in the goal of enforcing their control by suppressing anything that defies them. The real reason why (((they))) shut down 8chan was not simply to get rid of /pol/; it was to get rid of /pol/, and to get rid of /liberty/, and to get rid of /christian/; it was to take away the ability of those who already defy them to express their views, and to take away spaces for anyone to defy them. This was the advance of the totalitarian culture of death to tread underfoot anyone who does not submit and conform to their will for our societies, nothing more. Even if you had a point about /pol/ it would not matter, because the site going down was not just a normal occurrence in a normal world, it was a battle in an international culture war.

Ah, yes the same old cliched response for every far-something faggots

>No, no, everything we do is totally justified, because we are fighting a global conspiracy of <insert evil group that controls the world in their worldview> that is ruining society;

>When something does mess up, it's never because of us, it's because of infiltrators/false flag campaigns/splinter groups/counter-revolutionaries. We are for peace and would never hurt anyone(until we get enough pull in society, that is)

>we just militating for free speech, lack of censorship and bringing all viewpoints to the table(which is why our free speech loving communities are the biggest echo-chambers and ideological circlejerks);

>The only question that remains for any of us is "whose side are you on". It's very clear which side you are on.

Ah, yes, who can forget the good old "if you aren't with my failed murderous ideology, you are with theirs".

Who's side im on?

Hmm, i think im with the side that's against dragging society into non-stop autistic identity politics with retarded paranoia, identical racial hierarchies(seriously, if they replaced rich straight old white men, with rich straight old jewish men, you'd be decent buddies with the SJW crowd), acting like you are the victim and opressed, even when you are undisputably in control of discourse in a place, accusations of treason for going against the narrative, going on how only they can prevent the (fascist white supremacist imperialists/jewish commies) that are supposedly behind every rock from completely taking over, and s—ty hairstyles.

So, the far-right and the stalinistic left.

Not that it's surprising.

The only remaining terrorist orgs nowadays are commie psychos, far-right thugs, salafi scum, and ethnic separatists.

I told you, i don't believe in propping up similar crap on the complete other end of the political spectrum, just because the other side is more socially acceptable.

You are both my enemies.

>>842487

>I looked at every post your ID has made in this thread. Each one has been about this topic, and each one has been nothing but propaganda for the official narrative trying to get us to harm ourselves by helping the establishment censor other dissenters against it. Why are you even here? I doubt some redditer or something would come to this board specifically to pretend to be a regular and shill for the culture of death to those 8chan bigots. It's obvious to me why you're here, but I'm sure you'll jump all over me for pointing it out. Not that I care. You're here because you're being paid to do this. I would not have openly accused you of it until you made it so obvious with this post

Ah, ok.

Expected you to say im a jew or something(or if you are feeling especially kinky, both a jew and a gov agent, a la JIDF).

Always love that bulls—.

The explanation is simpler.

The meta thread is the second one that pops up when you load /christian/.

And it updates slowly, so easier to see what comes up.

Now, /pol/ have been trying to whitewash their role in the shootings ever since the site came back on, with the same script every time.

You didn't say anything for the first 2-3 months, since you knew it'd be obvious bulls— that no one would believe.

But now that events are starting to fade a bit, you are starting to to push the narrative that you are the real victims here, so of course i slam those lies.

>For example, remember that time when the very shooting we're talking about happened and a small minority of posters in the thread were defending the killing and advocating for more, and the FBI released documents relating to an investigation of "domestic terrorism" on 8chan, and included a printed out screencap of one of the posts, and it included that slanted (You) next to word Anonymous? You know, that thing that only the person who actually made the post can see? I await you to prove me right by responding to this with "tinfoil hat" or something similarly inane.

No, ill ask for said documents.

>>842267

Now don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that /pol/ isn't a disgusting dumpster of a board. I won't even argue that it doesn't deserve to be shut down for its insanity and massive base of users that don't even understand the meaning of "logical fallacy".

But if you're going to tell me the reason it should be shut down is:

>Someone did a crime and talked about it in this place before doing it, so therefore we should shut down the place they posted to

Then I'm absolutely going to call you stupid, you can't hold someone or something responsible for the actions of another.

Could the mods have responded faster? Probably. Should there have been more mods to keep and eye on the board? Most likely. But unless you're an absolute master of psychology I doubt even you could easily discern the manifesto of a psychotic killer from an edgy teenager from /b/.

Despite the general goals of most people on /pol/ being different from the goal of the website as a whole, the main purpose of the site is still freedom of speech. And if you're going to aim for absolute freedom of speech (within the law) you're still going to have to give a lot of people the benefit of the doubt at times when they post edgy/tasteless comments until it can be shown that there is actual criminal activity.

So is this board moderated? Is there a board owner?

>>844627

No

FYI invidio has been down for over a week now so those youtube redirects should probably be disabled if possible.

>>845612

It was changed to another instance

>>845619

The links don't appear to work though.

https://www.invidiou.site/watch?v=3VNdXMFleBM

https://invidiou.site/3VNdXMFleBM

https://m.invidiou.site/watch?v=3VNdXMFleBM

>>845626

>>845619

>>845612

It looks like this instance is unreliable too, sorry. I will change it.

There are so many false flags being used, they should be eliminated.

You would think deceit wouldn't be a problem on a Christian board, but I suspect many folks who post are not Christian and have the intent to troll

>>842488

He is right you know. You are an idelogue. You keep pushing the same TIRED old narrative. Time and time again. I am with>>842487 You are BOTH our enemies. In the Catholic state you will BOTH be expelled…forcefully if needs be. You follow modernist doctrine which has NO BUSINESS in Christianity.

>>842060

>Disclaimer

>>842060

>Disclaimer

2 months late

but

>Blame the Jews

How about…I blame SATAN? He is the source of ALL EVIL. Fight Satan, become closer to God. Simple

>Stop being cucks

Stop Larping like you have the answer? You are acting like a sophist. If it have to resort to name calling you have lost the debate.

>>846710

We have done it before. Salazar purged both far left and far right out of Portugal. Those that stayed were forced to hide. We DO NOT tolerate caesarist blasphemy. There are many in the older generations that share this sentiment. That is, those that have not been dumbed down by filthy extremist politics. You are just as bad as the leftists. You are better off worshipping a tree to protect your race. As it is, both ways are dead ends.

>>846710

You think we are going to roll around…play by your rules? In time, the world will play by HIS rules. Not your childish ideological groupings

>>846710

Answer me this? Who is the bigger enemy? Satan…or the jews? Answer me this….without having a fit.

>>846747

"Trad" catholics are not a different church. Maybe sedes should get their own flag

>>846751

>"Trad" catholics are not a different church. Maybe sedes should get their own flag

As the purpose of the flag is to explain what one's position is based on the poster's core beliefs, and Novus ordo and Trad Catholics have different beliefs I think a flag would be in order to show the difference.

Examples of different beliefs are that the Trad Catholics, per the old Papal Encyclicals, believe in the Government's power of Capital punishment if it is done justly. Per new Papal Encyclicals, the Government does not. Trad Catholics believe that the Roman Catholic Church is the One True Church because of the Papal Encyclicals. Novus Ordo believe that the Roman Catholic Church is ONE OF the true Churches.

BTW, only the SSPV are "sedes". Not all Trad Catholics are sedes.

>>846751

Maybe if I said "pretty please with sugar on top".

Then can we have a trad catholic flag? I think the coat of arms of Pope Saint Piux X, one of the anti-modernist Popes, is a good way to distinguish between the Modernist and the Traditionalist

>>846101

I think the flags help as long as you don't include things that overtly deny God such as (short list of examples) SDA/LDS/JW/gnostic or things like that, because at that point you are basically giving them a foothold to start on their lies against the Holy Trinity.

There is no ideal solution here, of course. I would prefer just leaving it so that the people who are clearly wrong about certain things can be more easily identified by the more discerning. I can see the argument for removing them entirely and that might be more fitting if we didn't include stuff like catholics in here.

Now if we do keep them and not add any of the above flags then what about the others people have suggested. I don't see the point in adding extra catholic flags because it would only increase arguments on the subject as a whole. In an ideal world, it wouldn't be necessary to have a separate baptist flag. Christianity would continue to be represented only by baptists and nobody else would interpose themselves as they have been. But the simple fact is these denominations that have created factions over time sadly have attempted to subdivide the world between their various popes, so we use that as ways to identify them. I would rather that the Christian flag would represent churches like mine only. At a higher level still, flags are just flags and a person isn't saved by what group they are part of but judged only on their individual life and whether they are saved.

>>846768

>But again, not much different from the bread and cracker worship that others do either according to yet other oral traditions.

That's straight out of the Bible regarding the Last Supper and the Sacrifice of Christ our Lord and is not an "oral tradition".

>>846770

>>846759

>is there a difference?

YES. One is human, the other is a evil spiritual being who is the head of the fallen angels. The fact I have to explain this to you is sad and pathetic.

>>846770

So true, anon. It pains me that this board is infested with intellectually dishonest ideologues who have no concept of what the faith teaches and are blinded by the false "truths" taught to them by atheistic ideologues, not knowing that atheism is the reason that the west is as decadent as it is.

I prefer an atheist who has an open mind than an ideologue who is intellectually dishonest, which is a major sign of being low intelligence

>>846770

>That's straight out of the Bible regarding the Last Supper and the Sacrifice of Christ our Lord

Yes of course. But the worship of the crackers themselves isn't. That's what is called a satanic inversion of the rite, similar to infant baptism which removes the whole part of faith. The inversion part, the little twist that they add to it, is the oral tradition.

But the worship of the crackers isn't

It is, actually XD

>>846775

The worship of the Eucharist has been practiced since the beginning. It is in fact the first catholic mass in history. Also look at the Gospel of John chapter 6, where Jesus literally says hat you have to eat his flesh to live. But human flesh is not palatable. Hence, the Transubantiation. The ways of the spiritual man are beyond the comprehensions of the sensual man, or the worldly wise man. : D

>>846766

SDAs have an orthodox doctrine of the trinity, except for some offshoots today and some heretical statements of their early leaders like White

>>846774

>YES. One is human, the other is a evil spiritual being who is the head of the fallen angels.

In the Bible, there are instances where Christ The Lord expelled these evil spiritual beings from human bodies.

We can't deny that. Nor can we deny that Satan temps people with power and wealth if they give their souls to him and do his bidding.

Not much difference. A Jewish person who has rejected the Demon, accepts Christ, is called "a Christian".

>>846777

Hey you know what, as long as they aren't cutting off people's heads for believing the truth that is a good start. Even better when they will concede that it is nothing but an oral tradition that is manmade, not to be found within the pages of any Scripture. Having established that, let's not continue this into a whole big argument in the meta page, I just have a conviction today that the truth, the Christian truth, needs to be said at this place and time. And that's all I've got to say on this.

>>846791

>And if you don't partake of the Body of Christ because you believe it is just a cracker

I've never even been to a ritual where people worship bread and crackers before, and I don't plan to ever go. That would be giving a possible occasion for a brother in Christ to stumble in sin.

>adoration, but not worship.

Same thing.

>please explain how you got "satanic" out of worshiping the actual body and blood of Christ Our Lord and Our God?

Simple. And I'm not going to be led to repeat myself over and over again so please read. You can't point to any paragraph or sentence in any part of the Holy Scripture where these things are so. Rather, a vile fiend at some later point came up with the idea of getting people to worship inanimate objects by wresting the Scripture away from its true meaning. They took a true statement about our Lord and turned it into a muddled, confused unknown god. Hence, the judgment against these is that they will continue in their idolatry until they are ready to hear the word of our Lord Jesus Christ. Idolators still have a means to repent, by hearing the word of our great Lord, but in order to turn to the Lord God, one must also turn away from idols. It's not too late as long as you are able to hear his message. As the Son of the Highest himself said: "he that has ears to hear, let him hear."

It's now the acceptable and appointed time to turn from idols to the living God. As the apostle Paul wrote in 1 Thessalonians

> 8 For from you sounded out the word of the Lord not only in Macedonia and Achaia, but also in every place your faith to God-ward is spread abroad; so that we need not to speak any thing.

> 9 For they themselves shew of us what manner of entering in we had unto you, and how ye turned to God from idols to serve the living and true God;

> 10 And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come.

Acts 26:

> 18 To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.

> 19 Whereupon, O king Agrippa, I was not disobedient unto the heavenly vision:

> 20 But shewed first unto them of Damascus, and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the coasts of Judaea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance.

Let him that has ears to hear, let them hear.

>And if you don't partake of the Body of Christ

As defined where. In John chapter 6 there is no mention of this there. It is defined in the passages dealing with the Lord's supper, so you should reference those.

>because you believe it is just a cracker,

This is what the idolators believe, as I've explained already. It is not what I believe. They have a false god (2 Cor. 11:4) that they believe inhabits bread and crackers. It isn't a happy thing to even have to mention this, because the judgment of the sin of idolatry is such a poignant judgment.

>then you cannot enter heaven as the Lord said in John 6:53-54

See John 6:63. Totally different passage of scripture from the Lord's Supper.

That's all I have to say regarding this. And in advance, I'm already going to point out that Christ also says that He is the Door and the Vine. If there is another false belief system with its own pope somewhere out there that has a "magical" door or vine that they believe their false god inhabits, I will consider them to be in the same category. Now is the acceptable time to repent of false idols, which can neither speak nor hear nor talk, and turn to the living and true God. He is alive and can talk, my friend.

>>846826

I am sometimes stunned at folks who claim to be Christian, and deny the very words of Christ, deny the Sacrifice of Christ, mock the Last Supper.

I'll pray for you, bro, but you're close to the unforgivable sin here.

>>846850

Don't worry anon, I forgive you - and if God loves you, so do I.

What's with the click bait? has /christian/ become a for profit board?

I just wish it were real bros

>>846970

Wish what were real?

>>846993

This whole thing. My family and community are Christian and I try to believe but it just doesn’t happen, even trying to get there speaking with Christian friends and a pastor relative. I hate the feeling of pointlessness and dread, but my own religious impasse makes me fear everyone else is lying to me and we all feel the same and there is no help

>>847001

Sorry, should I take it to a new thread or is there already one for this sort of thing?

>>847444

I still see it >>847418

I don't see anything in the logs either

>>847447

yeah, i didn't see anything in the logs, but now i see the thread on the catalog, thanks.

hghh

Should this board be on a dedicated site instead of 8kun?

>>849139

if not this, maybe a pinned thread on showcasing/looking for good christian forums would be awesome.

True Meaning Of Christmas

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Watch This

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>>849139

Nice ID! And yeah, I totally agree. I want nothing to do with this site, but I really like /christian/. I wish we had our own site that way we are no longer associated with 8chan.

>>850863

>sound like a redditor

Is your issue with chan culture?

>>851358

I never liked reddit (that's why I'm here of all places), but I understand why you said that, lol. Anyways, my issue isn't exactly with chan culture. I love the anonymity, dissidence/contrarianism, lingo, etc. My main issue is with the image and nature of the rest of this site that we are then associated with. We're on 8chan/8kun - a site teeming with feds, degenerate coomer boards littering the whole place, and the most popular board being a haven for edgelord NatSocs. I wish we had something like christchannel.xyz again. It's too bad that's gone now.

>>851577

Talmud says Jesus and His disciples did miracles.

The fallen jews evangelize in spite of themselves.

>>851922

Sigh, how did it become this horrible…

>>851577

Happy 14th birthday

8kun is going tor only sitewide sometime soon. Please save the tor link:

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Download tor browser here:

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>>852942

>8kun is going tor only sitewide

There will be so much cheese pizza

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Here is a way to take out the telemetry of Windows 10 and still run software, it just takes a while but it's worth it. For any Christian who has traded their privacy for security.

>>853776

pray about, i,m sure GOD has nothing better to do, no starving children, no covid plague, no famines.

>>846759

There is no hell in the Jewish belief.

hell is just another myth created to shame little boys and girls into towing the christian party line while they are young enough to be influenced.

>>853815

Nobody cares what your false religion teaches, Schlomo

>>853815

Not strictly true. There's actually no consensus in Judaism as to what the afterlife is. Some believe that the dead sleep until the arrival of the Messiah. Some believe in a Hades-like afterlife that everyone goes to no matter what. And some do, in fact, believe in something like Hell.

After much deliberation I have determined to ban the prolific poster under the catholic flag, the one with the distinctive capitalization. His posts are exceptionally detrimental to practically every discussion to the point I have to conclude he's doing it deliberately. It also happens that he considers posting here to be sinful, so if he legitimately thought that I consider it an act of grace.

I hope quality will improve. Feedback welcome.

This site's in bad shape, and it's getting worse. It's pretty much a qboomer site now, with few other posters. Besides the q stuff, this board is one of the few relevant ones left. The original 8chan crowd has now almost entirely left, so why don't we leave with them? We could make a new board on 8chan.moe. I think that would help with activity, and we'd be rid of the technical issues that make this place almost un-usable at times. I'm interested in hearing what you think. Board owner, if you want, you can be in charge of a new home on 8chan.

>>854456

There's already a /Christian/ board on that site, but it's not very active and I can't vouch for its quality. To be honest, for all its problems, I've been using this board off and on for years, and I kinda like it here, faults and all. Plus, it'd be difficult to convince others to move to a new site unless something drastic happens like the moot migration from a few years ago.

Of course, the reason so many people stopped coming here was because this site went down. I didn't even know for about a year that it was back under a different domain. I imagine I wasn't the only one.

>>854456

>8chan.moe

isn't this the one whose identity is pro loli

>>854466

There is pornography here as well

>>854487

>>854468

I see a difference between permitting loli or porn and it being the dominant theme. It's preferable to be on a qboomer-centric platform rather than a loli-centric platform. Just my opinion

>>854487

>Besides, they're just cartoons. I really don't see the issue.

repent

>>854497

>I see a difference between permitting loli or porn and it being the dominant theme

I don't see why it being a dominant theme on other boards would concern a Christian board on there. Porn is the dominant theme on the porn boards here

>>854499

"platform"

>>854499

He makes sense. Having "moe" in the name and in the URL, with the implication being what it is, gives it that attribute. This is no matter what sub-board you have. The fact that it says moe in the title makes it very easy for people to think and ask and wonder: why choose to do that?

>>854505

That's just a weeb thing, it doesn't have to do with hentai specifically

Thank you for the welcome, moderator.

>>854560

Welcome, anon. Enjoy your stay, sir/ma’am! :)

>>854456

>>854456

I miss the old /Christian/ they were SO helpful with me finding God. I was GREATLY upset when…/pol/ got the site shutdown due to their…incompetence.

>>854651

nostalgia goggles

old /christian/ banned for any arbitrary reason and there was much more trolling

>>854651

Honestly, they were good until that one guy allowed ownership to lapse and then someone else snagged it away. Whoever that was, statedly and intentionally allowed the once-popular board be policed by cronies. He didn't allow board logs to be opened and rewrote the old rules to be as vague as possible and therefore easy to use to ban any post disfavored by the specific handpicked mod, leading to abuses and traffic going down by more than half due to how many people were permabanned w/ no reasons given. They deleted posts to hide their evidence. The guy who ran it also eventually deleted flags simply because he didn't like them, not based on a poll or anything like that. I believe he stated that he accomplished his mission of killing the board and didn't want to take ownership here.

The amount of trolling has always been relative to the amount of total traffic, regardless of these policies.

>>854651

>/pol/ got the site shutdown due to their…incompetence.

(((They))) shut the site down to silence dissent*

>>854687

Yes.

I’m a former member of the discord server who got my old account permabanned by the discord higher ups for association with unsavory individuals. I seek to return. You probably know who I am if you’re a member. Just message me on there, and mods can delete this message if they need to.

El Brohamo de los Americas#2383

>>854805

We don't have anything to do with that

>>854806

You never know who might show up, but thank you for the clarification.

>>854810

How did you find us?

>>854811

Frankly, I was bored and decided to see if 8chan had reopened or whatever happened with it. And i saw it had been relaunched as 8kun. So here I am.

>>853832

Also, if Judaism is false, then so is Christianity by extension, since Christianity is derived from Judaism. We can argue about modern Rabbinical Judaism, but that's just one aspect, and a relatively recent development at that.

>>854810

>>854848

Same here, bro. One of the only boards that makes this site not completely worth nuking.

>>854810

>>854970

Most of the regulars from the old days are now on the webring, which you can find here: https://smuglo.li/tg/catalog.html. The other boards are accessible if you click on the pop-out menu in the top left. Wish we could establish a decent /christian/ presence with them, like in the old times.

>>855029

They have a /christian/ on the webring but nobody really uses it.

https://anon.cafe/christian/

>>855042

Why don’t people just migrate over there instead of being on 8kun? anon.cafe is a much better place than 8kun, frankly, it is the best IB. There is less degeneracy over there. There is also no disclaimer on every post which contributes to annoying clutter.

>>855080

options > hide disclaimer

>>855086

The disclaimer is the least of the problems. 8kun is filled with boards of degeneracy. Not only that, it would be better to only have one board instead of being scattered accross three boards.

>>855087

This is the one board

>>855088

Well, too bad.

>>855080

Agreed. Anoncafe is a nicer place.

>>855097

The majority of the boards over there are sfw which is a good thing compared to 8kun. I wonder why sfw anons won’t move to better boards and let this website act as a containment facility for the reprobates of /pnd/, /random/, and the rest of the nsfw boards.

>>855104

>>855097

Why are you talking to yourself?

>>855115

Ooga booga

Thank you, board owner.

Can the mods please delete the cp? Come on mods you need to act quicker against this stuff. :/

Come to the Anon cafe Christian board, it's a little active, could be used as a second bunker.

https://anon.cafe/christian/

>>855553

It's already linked as the bunker

>>855558

I could have sworn it was the 9chan /christian/ that was the bunker.

I wish both this board and the bunker weren't dead. Where did everyone go?

>>856391

to the bathroom

These quads were predestined

>>826847

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>>856688

wondering the same thing

is there a way to see the images or is the site winnie the poohed

H-hello?

>claimable

RED

"""Bold"""

Bold

""Italic""

Italic

Stop using this garbage site, friends, and come s—post with us

https://anon.cafe/christian/

https://8 chan.moe/ (REMOVE THE SPACE)

https://zzzchan.xyz/index.html

Board creation is available, they can also transfer the entirety of the board (pictures/replies/css) on their servers.

>>857258

>https://anon.cafe/christian/

These plebbitors whine if you say anything bad about tiggers, faggots, troons, and globalist kikes.

>>857270

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