No.167 [View All]
My target is an invisible enemy.(Think: dimensions)
It is very easy to recognize harmful matters.
They try to put on a good face while behind the scenes they try to take you in harmful directions.
And now here comes the problem/question.
At what point does it become good or bad/evil/harm?
Q: 'Reconcile using logic'
Define: True LOGIC.
What is the direction of that LOGIC?
What is the direction of its ideology?
What are you ultimately trying to connect it to?
Q: 'Smoke & Mirrors'
And why do ((())) try to avoid revealing things?
Why do ((())) misrepresent?
Why don't ((())) answer the questions?
How do ((())) spend their time?
Do actions contrary to truth and justice create the potential for harm?
Does logical thinking clarify things?
'No deals'
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No.493
>>492
Do think there is a difference in the way guns are perceived and handled in countries where guns cannot be handled compared to countries where can be handled?
Something like that.
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No.496
Either way, whether it's a test or not, it just proves it.
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No.497
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No.498
>>497
Can't escape from oneself, though.
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No.500
How would answer justification and reasonableness when accountability arises for test actions?
^This is not me.
>>496
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No.501
>>500
This is an 'word' arising from critical thinking.
Does (((they))) not like being asked questions because it reveals their own thoughts?
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No.502
>>500 Further clarification.
>This is not me.
^ To the World.
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No.503
>>502
Did 'Q' consider accountability important?
If so, what impact does evading accountability have?
This is my opinion.
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No.504
>>503
When it comes to accountability, does Q+anonymous style/form work/functions effectively?
There may indeed be some unnecessary accountability.
But doesn't accountability also fall on those who demand unnecessary accountability?
Wouldn't many things then become even clearer?
Hence, wouldn't it be constructive/effective to have a reason or clarification?(Validity/justification)
^Wouldn't this also have an effect on the speed of recognition and understanding?
Q: 'Everything has meaning?'
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No.505
>>504
Even with detailed explanations and clear proof, further questions will arise.
Ex: 'So what'?
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No.506
>>491
>Slow and steady wins the race.
^It is when are in a hurry that take a detour.
<The more urgent the situation, the better it is to take the safe and sure path rather than the dangerous shortcut.
<Rushing into anything increases the risk, so it is important to remain calm and take steady steps.
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No.507
>>506
But at what point is it decided that it is a detour?
Does a method exist to derive the best?
Or just a definition?
Constructive/Effective = quick/fast?
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No.508
Taking things seriously is fun.
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No.510
Learning may make it less likely that the same mistakes will be repeated.
But, Sometimes it is difficult not to repeat the same thing.
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No.511
>>509, >>510
Why do need the trust of others?
Approval from others?
Trust creates validity and legitimacy?
or Does proof of validity and legitimacy lead to trust?
Is 'Q' unreliable without POTUS?
Would it be a not 'Q' if POTUS is not involved?
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No.512
>>511
It's like watching repeat story from the past.
CBTS & The Storm repeat?
I thought were done with that theory?
In summary, Will you stop this movement when 'Q' is no longer reliable?
I think It's not just the reliability of the 'Q' only postings.
Trust is also established because of the words and deeds of the patriots who have joined this movement.
(For this reason, I also think that the words and actions of each and every participant in this movement are very important)
It is neither blind nor dogmatic.
And I think that the efforts of these anon/patriot(Q)s are what make this movement what it is.
Is trust something that can be lost in an instant?
Trust is a very good thing.
But isn't it also important to look not only at trust, but also at the things that are done?
Can create facts?
Can win trust with the facts create?
What would be important in this case?
Will logs be important?
What was proven?
Before trusting 'who', isn't it important to see what kind of behavior is trustworthy?
Because trust can be gone in an instant, right?
Then need to see every moment?
In other words, it is important what you accomplish.
And wouldn't it be easier to compare/contrast by summarizing those logs?
Now how far will your proof go?
I'm looking forward to it.
Your own 'Q' is proven.
That could be very nice, but I think 'this is not a game'.
Because I know people who have been hurt by this one thought.
God bless.
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No.519
If actions alone are unclear, wouldn't language or something else bring us closer to clarity?
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No.520
>>519
Certainly it can be difficult at times to clarify things in words.
Still, don't you think it is possible to reach a best through dialogue?
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No.521
>>520
Would that also be some sort of proof?
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No.522
>>520, >>521
Example.
As an example, let's say you have a complaint against the government.
Is it really legitimate to hold a rally to air your grievances?
(Is there any danger?)
Is rioting effective when dialogue is not possible?
(This is not intended as a recommendation)
Do you expect that by complaining and cursing over and over again, you will make a change?
Discussion is to derive problems and remedies?
What is the difference between disagreeing and just complaining?
Is rational discussion/reasoned argument constructive in deriving justification, validity, problems and remedies?
Are statements evidence/fact?
What is the moment when a statement becomes evidence/fact?
Is it a significant piece of evidence/fact depending on the degree of impact of the statement?
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No.523
>>522
>Do you expect that by complaining and cursing over and over again, you will make a change?
Expand your thinking.
What is the difference between stepping up for dialogue and discussion and spamming?
The difference between what you want to talk about and what you don't want to talk about?
The difference between what you want to see and what you don't want to see?
Is the difference between when you can hear an opposing view and when you can't, the degree of compromise or acceptance?
^ Cognitive dissonance Occurrence problem?
Define: Cognitive dissonance.
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No.524
>>477
And the next step is to connect catalogs to catalogs?
Create validity and legitimacy for XYZ?
I'm already looking at this.
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No.525
If the theory that everything is not coincidental is all valid, then..,
All beings who have participated in this movement are to be commended, and can define what they say as true and legitimate?
Is this extreme?
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No.526
What is the problem with DOGMA ideology?
Promoting blindness?
Or to make them stop thinking?
Could this lead to the creation of a new DS system?
Why do you want to build a DS system?
To create a new mind control?
Did they reveal any negative actions or explanations for these?
If appearances can be deceiving, does clarification, clarification, or proof matter?
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No.527
If freedom of expression deprives others of their freedom or causes harm (inconvenience), is there freedom there?
Doesn't the act of giving priority only to personal freedom not apply to freedom?
Does deriving these issues and true good choices lead to true freedom?
or create an opportunity to articulate true freedom?
It is very easy to just claim freedom.
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No.528
Remedial measures when dialogue does not take place?
Could post what you were trying to say at the time of the dialogue produce the same effect or impact?
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No.529
To what extent can the butterfly effect be clarified?
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No.623
>>621
Is there a relevant between DOGMA and transparency?
Blindness?
Is there a relevant between obscurity and transparency?
hidden?
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No.748
That's a lot of noise.
It's not easy to make an effort to come up with a solution.
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No.752
Appeal to technology if you can't use language and logic?
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No.754
>>752 edit
>technology
Rely on false?
Q+anonymous Is style a way of pretending to be something you are not?
No, it is not.
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No.755
>>754 edit.
Q+anonymous Is style there to fake?
>No.
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No.756
>>755
>>754
Q+anonymous Is style there to fake?
No, it is not.
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No.757
>>756
What is a name in the first place?
A list of words necessary for personal identification?
ID = Name?
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No.766
If you have faith, you know that God is watching what you do.
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No.768
How about a little perspective?
However, there are many cases where a change in perspective does not change the conclusion.
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No.1793
>>1792
In other words, even if you have been victimized unjustly, or are an absolute victim, victimization is still victimization.
(I respect those who fight bravely, showing their faces and names)
(but, victimization is still victimization)
(However, I don't think that proving a face and name will give you absolute legitimacy)
(As a result, I think words and actions matter)
This may affect some people and give them reason to remain silent.
(I also think that being cautious is a very necessary skill for survival)
But wouldn't making full use of this minimal proof method help to reduce the risk of violent behavior from irrational beasts?
(Of course, this is just a possibility)
(It's not a guarantee of absolute safety)
Is this democratic?
Will it be painful for some people to no longer be able to remain silent?
I have no intention of holding responsible those who have been hurt up until now, but what I have felt through this movement is that the time has come for people to make a choice(think so)
To be even more clear, I think that a clear choice is now required.
And I think it has to do with what do with time.
We now have a great deal of freedom in our environment, so isn't it important to consider what leave behind?
Why does a topic exist?
What is the purpose of a focus?
Dissenting opinions are welcome,
I think it helps to bring some clarity.
Of course, these are just my thoughts as I research this movement.
And I want to let you know that I am writing these posts as part of expanding this movement and pursuing true freedom and peace.
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No.1794
>>1793
In other words, what can learn from those who fought bravely and died?
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No.1795
>>1793
>I respect those who fight bravely, showing their faces and names
>>1794
<In other words, what can learn from those who fought bravely and died?
^This point
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No.1800
>>>/qresearch/23684772
^This
>>>/qresearch/23676371
>“Anonymous, online or keyboard complaining is not worthy of a warrior. It is cowardice”
Hello, I'm leaving a message here to respond to what you're saying.
Of course, I think you are only focusing on those who are only complaining, but I will say something in case that is not the case.
I certainly don't think complaining is cool.
But that's also true.
I think the true anons here have the skills to filter out that kind of noise.
I generally don't filter things.
This is because I think that even if complaints or opposing opinions arise, a clear response to them can also create an opportunity to clarify things further.
And on the issue of cowardice, Anons who fight only with words and the information have are not cowards.
(Anons is no need to brag about the number of friends have or how good-looking or bravery)
Also, from another perspective, I think it's effective/constructive for quickly responding to actions that don't improve, don't take accountability, or don't provide a legitimate explanation, despite the opportunity to clarify problems by being able to ask questions anonymously and having your mistakes pointed out.
It also leaves a log of questions and opposing opinions being ignored.
This may be an opportunity to prove something else.
And just look at @state for example.
What's going on?
And is it truly constructive?
Is outside system working properly?
Is Brainwash affecting it?(people's)
When a debate arises, one side of the argument may be justified, while the other side may be problematic.
It's good that this has come to light.
However, there is a possibility that this could have further repercussions.
I think that this could also affect the family of the person who caused the problem.
Of course, it's easy to say that the person who caused the problem is to blame.
But once a label has been applied, how long will it take for subsequent words to become legitimate?
Of course, you could restore it by changing the name, but…
Even as I've typed this far, can you see that there is a lot of noise (potential for problems) being created?
Also, concerns about physical attacks on individuals.
Mislabeling resulting from mind control.
etc.
(&I also think there are methods to use these as excuses to create an unclear situation)
Of course, even if you post anonymously, the risk is not zero.
However, wouldn't it be constructive for the future to alleviate those concerns and leave a message?
I also think that brainwashing may be related to the occurrence of mistakes or problematic behavior.
Therefore, I think that pursuing this in an anonymous environment is effective in achieving quick improvement, without creating time for unnecessary damage.
Of course, I think it is important for the person to have the intention to improve, but I also think that proving that they refused to improve despite being given the opportunity makes something else clear.
I think that there is meaning in making things clear leaving true feelings in a space like this.
I also think that by investigating the problem/issue and presenting ideas for improvement, can prevent the problem from recurring or apply the ideas to other problems/issue.
And I see this anonymous platform as a constructive platform for clarifying things.
Furthermore, because this site houses archives of past records and information by patriots, and because there are people who preserve this information and present theories derived from it, I think it is a space where comparisons, considerations, and things can be made clearer.
I certainly think that if you want to shout, an outside platform is more constructive.
You may end up repeating the same things, but I think 8kun/ch is an effective platform for making things clearer and more quickly.
Will also have the opportunity to ask questions that find difficult to ask, or to seek help for SOS or other issues that feel can't talk to anyone about.
I think this will also be an opportunity to clarify the invisible parts.
The only thing that remains the same whether you shout in person or post anonymously is that you are using words.
8kun/ch is excellent at getting the most out of those words.
This is It focuses on creating thoughts constructively and effectively.
This platform, protected and built on logic by the patriots and anons who have fought here until now, is a wonderful platform with a high degree of freedom of speech.
And truth and logic always wins.
It's okay to make loud noises afterwards.
continue
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No.1801
>>1800
P.S.
I thought I'd already made clear the importance of this platform and anonymity, but thanks to you I've realized you still more to it.
Thank you.
Of course, opposing opinions are welcome, and have a space specifically for opposing opinions, so come and discuss together how to create a truly constructive and effective world.
(This is made to avoid getting in the way of researchers)
And my logic isn't finished yet.
I'll continue to make things clearer, so please come and see if you have the chance.
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No.1815
>>1793
>Is this democratic?
>Will it be painful for some people to no longer be able to remain silent?
Connecting the dots
This is about evolution
An opportunity for people to witness and express their feelings about freedom, peace, and ideals
Now, wouldn't it be constructive to see whether that's good or bad for the world?
And wouldn't it also be effective in inspiring new solutions?
And I think that will clearly demonstrate not only people's desires, but also their choices and thoughts
Including the things they didn't demonstrate when they had the opportunity
(Even though they was able to speak anonymously)
So how far has this movement spread?
Was it carefully compared/considered?
Did those opposed to this movement engage in dialogue?
They had the opportunity to do so, but they didn't
(What are the implications if this is created?)
And even if they prove their opposition to this movement, doesn't proving that it is constructive lead to the movement's expansion?
P.S
I think I've talked about this before about revealing their faces and names and going on suicide missions
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No.1816
>>1815
If there is an opportunity to have a dialogue but they don't have one,
if there is an opportunity to remain anonymous but they still don't speak up,
then the rest is simple
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No.1817
>>1816
When the situation becomes one where there is no way to deny it,,,
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No.1818
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No.1825
>>1815
>I think I've talked about this before about revealing their faces and names and going on suicide missions
"Kamikaze is not simply charging forward with the determination to risk life"
"Isn't it about making the most of every moment of life and making it mission(true freedom/peace)?"
This is about the pursuit, investigation and proof of the real question/issues/problem and this movement
"We are researchers who deal in open-source information, reasoned argument, and dank memes. We do battle in the sphere of ideas and ideas only. We neither need nor condone the use of force in our work here"
"We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."
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No.1826
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No.1827
>>1826
Are you pretending to be something else?
Or is it?
getting fed up
Also, if you're just going to say hello, please make a new thread instead of posting here
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No.1828
>>1827
Let's make it even clearer
To me, proof also includes doing nothing
I mean, I think it applies to all sorts of things
Also, for example, I think that the fact that you have come to post here is one piece of evidence that you have participated in 8kun/ch
However, if the post is negative about 8kun/ch, I think it will be evidence to shift attention away from this platform and towards another one
Of course, this will depend on individual perspectives, but I think it proves that there is a possibility that questions will arise
>>1826
If you post here with some intention and think you are in control of the situation, you are mistaken
I certainly take the necessary actions, so perhaps control can be defined as you intentionally taking problematic behavior and then reacting to it
Let me give you an example
If a baby is crying because it wants its diaper changed, can say that the parent who changes it is being controlled by the baby?
Of course, this could be defined as control if think of it as an ethical obligation, but what if this ethical view is different?
How would you define a situation where you have abandoned it?
Also, who has the initiative when something was desired at first but no longer feels that way?
Isn't the important thing in this story not who is in control, but thinking about and choosing what is best to sustain these little lives?
Well, So what have you proven?
If there's an archive, why not just provide it again?
Would that be too much trouble?
That thought could also be considered one piece of evidence
If your ideas don't produce anything new, wouldn't it be better to repost something from the past and make it something new for someone else?(This is talking about an archive to an external link)
>>1760
>Why do they want to push sensitive information?
Now, let's change the subject a little
It's true that sensitive information and images can be very useful in appealing to emotions
But think about it carefully
When did this movement start?
It's certainly not a waste to update the information or, as mentioned above, to re-use the archive
But, What do you want to feel again by looking at sensitive (painful) images again?
Or what do you want to connect the information to?
It is true that many people's emotions will be stirred and turned into voices, and they may join this movement
But what happens after that?
What seems best to you at this point?
It happened years ago
How does that affect the spread of information?
(Is this another emotional tactic?)
When you receive a response like this, how would you response it?
Repeat: Think about it and research it yourself
(This is important.)
What would be constructive/effective to connect to here?
Also, what would be constructive/effective to connect to in order to increase the possibility of expansion?
At this point, even if the other doesn't respond, knowing about this platform (8kun/ch)(not.¬.)could potentially lead to information about many patriots?
Isn't it precisely because it is a highly transparent space that clear proof is possible?
This is about shining a light on the true issues/problem/questions.
(This is not about viewing so-called sensitive images)
(And this is about the realm of ideas.)
If my posts are unpleasant to you, then you can just make better posts than me.
Wouldn't that make it more transparent?
And then you can create more ideas from there
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No.1829
>>1828
What has changed for theys?
Before get into the question of who is in control or not, what do they currently stand to prove?
If your proof is someone else's control, what does that prove?
So why not prove it yourself?
And even if you did, what would you prove then?
And why can't you prove it now?
(about unacceptable ideas)(?)
I have no intention of becoming a 'Q' like you
and I publicly state that I am not a 'Q'
I do not use half-trip codes like you do
Sure, using the 'Q' tripcode and posting as a past 'Q' might create vague validity and some impact, but again, you can't run from yourself
And above all, aren't the things that emerge from facing oneself the truth?
As the phrase "We are Q" suggests, whether you call yourself Q or Anon post on, I think what you accomplish is important
However, I also believe that carrying the Q comes with a certain amount of responsibility.
Also, this is something I've thought about from my time in this movement and seeing all the different people who have called themselves 'Q'
So it would be easier if you could prove it using your own trip code
So what have you proven?
I'm looking forward to seeing what comes next
I am a participant in this movement and I am participating because I thinking it can truly change the world.
I am simply offering my thoughts and ideas.
and And this is something I've seen in all sorts of techniques.
(For example, you belong to me because I control you etc)
If something is unclear, there is a forum like this where you can ask questions.
Discussion and rational debate are welcome
Why can't you do that?
And why run away from it and choose deception?
Isn't that the same as running away from discussion, stopping thinking, and resorting to the use of force?
Also, isn't running away from thinking related to running away from the truth?
Please let me know if you think I'm wrong
I just want to know what constructive choices are truly necessary right now
And true freedom and peace as soon as possible
Is war a real or lie?
How clear is it?
At what point does it become 'it'?
P.S
One simple fact?: is what me posted here today true?
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