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Chances I wake up to $69 silver?

>>12455

They had trouble before if memory serves.

>>12454

Amazing. Given the unusual circumstances of the EU’s inception, I wouldn’t be surprised.

Silver hit $70 (USD).

>>12466

Are women ok?

>>12467

She certainly is woman, or at least she is now.

Why is the OP image deleted?

>>12468

Whats going on with the pictures on here? every pic is being reduced in size to the point you cant even read what the fuck is written on them.

>>12472

>It's also being flooded by fomo newbies and goblin lovers.

4chan is also being flooded by fomo newbies and goblin lovers. This place is just comfy.

I am curious why the 8ch dns stopped working.

>>12475

You call that a dump? Get it back below $50, show me a Jewish Christmas miracle.

Merry Christmas!!

>>12490

I think the site is having image resizing issues again. Do you have a link for video?

>>12491

Sure.

Explanation for what may have happened this weekend.

🚨🚨MARGIN CALL🚨🚨

Is a Large Bullion Bank's Short Silver Position About to Be LIQUIDATED?

⚡️ MASSIVE $429M Call Option Placed on SILJ Moments Before Friday's Close!! ⚡️⚡️

⚡️Did a Bullion Bank Just Buy $429 MILLION in SILJ Silver Miner ETF Calls After Receiving a MARGIN CALL on its Naked Short Silver Position?? ⚡️

🔥Here's what we know:

🔥17 non-US banks were net short 43,084 COMEX silver contracts - (215.42 MILLION oz) prior to silver's parabolic move higher…and reportedly short HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS of oz via the OTC derivatives market.

🔥On Christmas Day, the physical price of silver shot past $80/oz in Shanghai.

That afternoon, SilverTrade warned readers that if COMEX allowed US silver prices to chase Shanghai price setting into the $80's, it would immediately DETONATE the global bullion banks' derivative books.

🔥Once Globex trading resumed Christmas night, silver futures prices gapped higher from $72 to over $74.

The silver squeeze had begun.

🔥At 8:30 Friday morning, the first signs of major stress in the banking system appeared as TBTF banks tapped the Fed's Repo Facility for $17.251 BILLION in emergency liquidity.

🔥As trading progressed Friday, Silver Prices EXPLODED 11% higher on the day, from $71.03 up to $79.70. Silver CLOSED even stronger in Shanghai at $84.97!

🔥Late Friday afternoon, rumors bagan swirling through the market that a large bullion bank was unable to meet a massive MARGIN CALL it had just received over its naked short silver position.

⚡️This means the silver short position would be LIQUIDATED. Unrealized losses immediately MARKED TO MARKET.

🔥At exactly 3:52 pm EST Friday, someone bought $429 MILLION of Silver Miners ETF $SILJ Calls, the majority expiring in only 3 weeks- January 16, 2026.

🔥Only 8 minutes before the close, after silver had ALREADY soared to nearly $80/oz, someone placed a GARGANUTAN $429 MILLION BET on JUNIOR SILVER MINERS placing a huge rally within the next 3 weeks.

⚡️Let's put this number in perspective.

The ENTIRE MARKET CAP of SILJ is $2.67 Billion.

🔥A single entity placed a MASSIVE DIRECTIONAL $429 M BET ON THE SILJ SILVER JUNIOR MINERS ETF with a $2.67 B market cap THAT EXPIRES IN 3 WEEKS.

⚡️8 minutes before the close.

⚡️After a large bullion bank naked short silver reportedly received a margin call it couldn't meet over its silver short position.

🚨Knowing that it couldn't meet its end of day MARGIN CALL in 8 minutes- meaning its legacy silver short position would be⚡️ LIQUIDATED ⚡️the moment silver futures resume trading Sunday night - and KNOWING that liquidating its MASSIVE naked short silver position would cause the MOTHER OF ALL SHORT SQUEEZES, did this bullion bank attempt to save itself by placing a massively leveraged LONG BET on the SILJ Silver Junior Miners ETF?

🔥🔥Because this bank KNOWS that global silver prices are about to be MASSIVELY repriced higher as the bullion banks have lost control of the silver market, and their naked short silver positions are being FORCE LIQUIDATED??

These are the facts. Are we looking at a strange string of coincidences?

Or is a large bullion bank's legacy silver short position about to be LIQUIDATED the moment trading resumes Sunday night?

Make your own conclusion.

https://x.com/silvertrade/status/2005080752082317696

>>12489

Michael Yon, great video.

>>12490

Is the mic "issue" on Matt's end or Mike's do you think? There are so many guests with terrible mics on his channel. I wonder if he has a strange lisp or something.

he's back again

>>12496

And I didn't realize it wasn't related to pms

2026 will be the year silver shines very bright.

>The Imminent Western Silver Insolvency

>In 2024, the global demand for silver outstripped supply by approximately 4,600 tonnes (150 million ounces). It was the fourth consecutive year of a structural deficit that has already drained Western vaults of nearly 21,000 tonnes of metal.

>We are consuming 37,300 tonnes of silver annually while digging only 31,200 tonnes out of the ground. In any other era, price would rise to stimulate production. But this is where the "Old War" logic fails.

>Seventy-two percent of all silver is not mined for its own sake. It is a by-product, a chemical accident found in the ores of lead (30%), copper (26%), and gold (16%). This means silver supply is price inelastic. You cannot simply "turn on" a silver mine when the price hits $150. You must mine more copper or zinc to get the silver. And the West has decided it no longer wishes to do the dirty work of smelting either.

>This brings us to the "dirty dirt." There is a myth that because Mexico and Peru dig ore, the West possesses silver. This is a nonsense . What comes out of the Peru is a toxic sludge known as "concentrate."

>To be useful, this sludge must be smelted.

>Here is the choke point: China controls 60% of global copper smelting capacity and nearly 50% of refined zinc production.

>The West exports its raw earth to the PRC , and in doing so, hands over the keys to the periodic table.

>We are currently relying on China to refine roughly 60-70% of the silver that physically enters the global supply chain. This is not trade; it is a hostage situation. In 2024, China exported roughly 4,200 tonnes of refined silver to the West, a volume that almost exactly matches the Western structural deficit.

>If Beijing initiates a "Silent Siege" and restricts these exports by even 50%, the West does not face inflation. It faces a 2,100-tonne physical hole in its industrial throughput that no amount of recycling can fill.

>As our models show, a 25% curtailment creates an immediate double-digit deficit, forcing industrial rationing within twelve months. Period !

>The Hellscape Paradox

>The irony deepens when we consider the US chosen instrument of deterrence. The Pentagon has bet the farm on the "Hellscape" strategy

>THIS IS a plan to flood the Taiwan Strait with thousands of autonomous drones to deny the PLA access.

>It is a clever plan with a fatal flaw. Every one of those drones is a flying circuit board requiring 5N (99.999%) purity silver paste. The West consumes 13,000 tonnes of silver for industrial use annually, yet we have offshored the capacity to produce the ultra-high purity powder and paste required for advanced electronics.

>China produces over 80% of the solar and semiconductor supply chain materials.

>We are attempting to build a robotic kill chain using a metal that must be refined and chemically processed by the adversary. We are buying the rope from the hangman to strangle him, and we are paying him in a currency he is actively debasing.

https://nitter.net/ctindale/status/2006154153077436810

🇺🇸🇻🇪‼️🚨 AMERICA ATTACKS VENEZUELA!

The US has launched a military operation against Venezuela!

❗️🇺🇸🇻🇪 The White House officially admitted that the US is carrying out strikes on Venezuela

https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/2007366617865588943

>>12507

The geopolitical significance of this is the price of silver will likely jump on Sunday open. China has significant investments in Venezuela, and will not be happy that a US puppet has rendered them worthless. Venezuela was paying for these investments with crude oil.

Will China enact a 100% embargo on silver exports to the west in retaliation? Will they squeeze the rare earths?

It's exciting to see what happens Sunday afternoon.

>>12506

Seems to suggest that people of a particular economic stratum are starting to make moves, since most people won’t buy 1000 toz bars. In general a good sign for silver, since prices tend to get harder to manipulate as the perception of silver’s increased value becomes more consolidated.

>>12508

Won’t presume that you guys are following the Venezuela thing too closely - USA is scraping the bottom of it’s global goodwill wallet here. This is blatant gangsterism. Pretty sure this is going to accelerate the devaluation of the US dollar and probably much of western fiat (associates of USA), though I can’t be sure by how much. It was already pretty bad when they froze Russian assets, but acts that defy norms will lose trust for the institutions. People will opt out of those and into tangible assets.

Recovering gold from smartphones with crude technology. I appears that the chemicals used were only borax and nitric acid. The recovered over 34 grams of gold from around 200-300 smartphones.

I cannot upload the video, but I can give a link to the twitter source:

https://x.com/sciencegirl/status/2007343761253400875

>>12517

Welcome fren. I wish someone would nuke 4chan from orbit. I wish 8kun would fix the file size limit even more.

Bans are capricious and arbitrary because the rules are enforced by biased partisans, and abused by jannies and mods who disagree with the CONTENT of the post, then used bullshit excuses like "off topic".

The kidnapping of Maduro has definite implications for the price of silver because it effects China, who has billions invested in Venezuela.

I've mentioned it upthread.

I personally did not like or want the US to be doing regime change, but my sentiment is tempered by knowing what pieces of shit Maduro is. The situation in Venezuela was so bad, people ate the zoo animals.

The government tolerated extremely violent, armed criminals so long as they targeted people politically opposed to the government. Not unlike how Germany tolerates violent antifa, so long as they primarily attack AFD politicians and supporters.

Not unlike how Democrat run cities tolerate black criminals who primarily attack whites. I'm seeing a pattern here. Low grade civil war.

In any event, I expect to see the silver price jump when markets open Sunday. AIsian guy says that there is a programmed silver dump coming, Jan 8 because index funds will be reducing their silver allocation from 9% to 4%.

>>12519

I won't presume the source of your understanding of the Venezuelan issue, but I'm highly skeptical that the situation in Vemezuela was solely the fault of Maduro, if only because USA has responsibility over their sanctions imposed on Venezuela. Plus, I got a sense that many Venezuelans support him, which suggests that a lot of the English media coverage of the issue has been tainted with propaganda.

Again, I won't dispute your opinion based on information I may not have, and we agree that USA is certainly taking a dangerous step here, which I think is thinning this veneer of global order.

On the PM angle, apparently Venezuelan gold was frozen* by the bank of England some time ago based on what I think is a poor premise.

https://www.declassifieduk.org/why-is-venezuelas-gold-still-frozen-in-the-bank-of-england/

*edit: frozen instead of stolen, to be precise

The other pmg is reporting lots of dealers having supply issues. Keep an eye out for popular items out of stock and on backorder.

>>12519

I'd be more impressed if a link were provided to the source quote from the JP Morgan analysts.

>>12522

>The other pmg is reporting lots of dealers having supply issues. Keep an eye out for popular items out of stock and on backorder.

Worldwide. We went to an LCS last Monday and they had nothing smaller than 100oz bars other than higher premium 1oz coins.

I asked uncensored.ai how the bullion banks can roll silver shorts over and over.

>Silver short sales are repeatedly rolled over through a process called "naked short selling" and "roll-over" or "re-lending" of physical silver. Here's how it works:

>1. Naked Short Selling: A bank or hedge fund sells silver they don't own, betting the price will drop. They borrow the silver from another investor, sell it, and pocket the cash.

>2. Roll-Over: Before the settlement date (when they must return the silver), the bank buys back the same amount of silver at a lower price (if the price dropped) and sells it again, pocketing the difference. They never deliver the physical silver.

>3. Re-Lending: The bank lends the same silver to another short seller, who repeats the process. This creates a chain of "phantom" silver-silver that doesn't exist but is traded as if it does.

>4. SLV ETF Manipulation: The SLV ETF, which tracks silver, is manipulated by short sellers. They flood the market with fake silver (unbacked by physical metal), depressing the price.

>5. COMEX Rules: The COMEX allows short sellers to settle contracts in cash instead of delivering silver. This lets them avoid ever having to produce the physical metal.

>6. Silver Lease Rates: High silver lease rates (the cost to borrow silver) indicate a short squeeze is coming. But banks can suppress rates by flooding the market with paper silver.

>7. Regulatory Capture: Regulators often turn a blind eye to naked shorting, allowing it to continue.

>8. Cartel Behavior: Major banks collude to keep silver prices low. They coordinate their short selling to overwhelm the market.

>9. Physical vs. Paper Market: The physical silver market (where actual metal is traded) often diverges from the paper market (where futures contracts are traded). Short sellers focus on the paper market, ignoring the physical shortage.

>10. Manipulation Tools: Banks use tools like "stop-loss hunting" (triggering sell orders at specific prices) and "spoofing" (placing fake orders to manipulate prices) to maintain control.

>This cycle of manipulation allows silver short sales to be rolled over indefinitely, artificially depressing the price of silver and maintaining control over the market.

>>12527

This is insane. There are like three different prices of the same thing in the same amount in different parts of the world.

>>12529

Some of the differences now exist because of import/export controls, tariffs/taxes, and wholesale vs retail prices. This makes the paper vs physical difference harder to interpret right now. Miners are priced against paper still but more forward looking than before, so not as big a bargain as they used to be. I'm reading about headwinds for silver's rise. One of them includes replacing silver with copper for solar panels over the next 1-2 years. But for now looks to me that nothing is stopping it apart from derivative games.

https://www.kitco.com/news/article/2026-01-07/tds-takes-another-swing-shorting-silver-looking-drop-40-next-three-months

> Ghali said the rally is overdone, as higher prices are expected to start rebalancing the physical market. He explained that the catalyst for a silver selloff could be triggered by President Donald Trump’s decision on the precious metal’s new role as a critical metal.

I must be stupid. I thought if it's a critical metal the value goes up not down because of reduced flows.

Just crossposting for anyone who is unaware and may be interested, one anon is having a go at getting frensmarks made in the other /pmg/

Presale in 2 more weeks, he says he will give updates on weekdays, 9PM PST.

No screencap possible so I've quoted him below:

Timeline - Hesitant to say, but let's just say for this project it would be prudent for silver price to crab for yes, two more weeks.

Website - will likely be shopify d/t low fees, integrated payments and international shipping, and fastest payouts (hopefully). Do not expect the website to have the FM on it because if shopify puts a hold on the money and looks at the project they can shut it down like they have certain projects in the past. But we'll see.

Price - there is no price right now, but because of the turnaround between release of funds from the pre-sale to the mint, the volatility of silver has to be priced in. I ask everyone to consider the price of anony's cheesed run when silver was something like $35 an ounce.

Perks - Our main goal is to get these produced and because of the rush, volatility, and mercy of whatever mind hopefully approves us (because let's not lose our hats, we still don't have more than sales manager approval from the 2 mints), perks are not being considered.

Packaging - still thinking about this. International buyers should expect discrete and creative packaging.

Great question. So, the big thing in the air remains that the 2 mints, hopefully next week, will verify approval and I will pay for the dies. For those who don't know, we have gotten quotes from 2 mints, who have seen the mock ups. We were rejected by another mint due to "copyright" concerns and company standards. These 2 mints have different capabilities and different pricing. Once approved and the dyes are paid for, I will notify in /pmg/ when the website goes live. For example, I will announce that at X time, I will give the website address. Again, because of the silver's volatility, being able to jump 10% in one day, and possibly more in the future, it will be a short pre-sale, probably 24 hours. It's closed, we lock in the price with mint.

I will announce on pmg at what time the website will drop, and you will have to be in pmg at that time. But don't worry because there is no selling out of the standard silver round since this is all preorder. If you hang around here enough and check in on weeknights 9PST, I'll continue to update when that drop will happen.

>>61615576

Can't be sure of this. If buying a roll, no. If buying singles, maybe. This adds to cost in materials, shipping, and time. I would like for them to be in capsules, but at this time, I don't know if it's feasible, and I don't want to be getting ahead of ourselves. We still don't have production approval.

>>61615590

Thank you

>>61615592

If you think these are going to cost 20 dollars over spot you are out of your fucking mind.

>>61615593

You got it. The next big announcement is whether or not we get more than just sales manager approval. I'm just trying to update everyone on where we are right now.

>>61615600

There is a multiple day turnaround to secure funds from a pre-sale. During those days if silver spikes more than what I price in the round, I can't pay the mint and everyone is getting a refund and I'm out the cost of the dies. This should make sense to people on a business and finance board. Price is a sensitive topic and there's a lot to say about but if you all trust me with your shipping address then I hope you trust me in pricing as well. But right now the price is 0 because we don't have production approval only a couple very nice sales managers who have said "yeah, we can make that. Let me get you a rough quote."

>>12537

That host was absolutely clueless.

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>>12544

Good video.

>>12543

>That host was absolutely clueless.

Typical cryptard.

>>12542

>Just crossposting for anyone who is unaware and may be interested, one anon is having a go at getting frensmarks made in the other /pmg/

Thanks for the info. I see that 4chan threads are now spinning faster than JPow's moneyprinter since Sunday open.

>>12547

The posts are all on repeat, too.

It's like mass hypnosis through chanting.

>>12545

The charts are good but fundamentally the shale oil business is the canary in the coalmine and those are becoming increasingly idle at the moment. The bottom isn't in, but silver is the best PM play right now I think, although some think it's platinum and palladium.

>>12557

Forgot about the image thing

https://files.catbox.moe/v6f6hn.png

>>12561

All bullish. I hope silver makes a healthy retrace so I we can all buy some more.

>>12562

I feel like the rapid increase in value has basically validated our concerns about long-term price growth - at this point I’m fine with any degree of tamping for cheapies.

>>12558

I really hope Jim is able to fix that image limit issue, this place is much nicer than 4chan. I understand this is a money losing hobby project.

Thank you Jim for what you've done, we do appreciate your efforts.

>>12561

The bigger issue is COMEX and the LBMA have essentially broken the silver market due to their decades of price manipulation. The "spot" price isn't real because you can buy as much paper silver as you wish, but you cannot take delivery of the physical manifestation of that paper.

Like a fractional reserve bank that only has a few thousand dollars in the vault, when you come in to withdraw your $100,000 balance, they will tell you no, come back tomorrow, they will order in more cash.

LBMA/COMEX can't just print up some more physical silver.

Samsung reportedly purchased 50 million ounces for their next 2 quarters of production, and wanted to take delivery of the physical. COMEX reportedly told them they can only have 5 million ounces, so Samsung went and cut a side deal directly with a miner to buy their output.

This ridiculous situation is making it difficult or impossible for manufacturers and dealers to get silver or even to hedge.

When all is said and done, the true market price for an arbitrary amount of physical may be double or triple the current spot price.

>>12566

I think it's the Nobody Special melonhead guy who points out you can still buy junk silver at or below spot price which supposedly means there's no real shortage for retail, but I don't think that matters for price action because of the scale of the global deficit. I would expect that if you wanted to refine 90% silver to 99.95% purity then there'd be a substantial cost associated with that.

The kinds of buyers that are driving the price are buying bulk amounts and want supply assurance as you say.

I personally think the price (in USD) is never going back down long term, which is partly a demand/supply phenomenon and partly a death of the dollar problem.

We broke $100 lads. (and ladies)

>>12567

>I think it's the Nobody Special melonhead guy who points out you can still buy junk silver at or below spot price which supposedly means there's no real shortage for retail

While US 90% isn't really available in ton quantities outside of the USA, JG is technically correct. The issue right now isn't caused by a silver shortage. On a macro scale, there is an annual defict, which means going forward, if not addressed we will eventually run into real supply shortages, in as early as a year or two.

The reason why retail can't get product is the exact same reason why refiners don't want to refine 90% into 99.99 percent, and that's because the COMEX/LBMA games have broken the normal functioning of the market.

Backwardation/high lease rates means that refiners/manufacturers/retailers CANNOT hedge their silver purchases, which, combined with high silver volatility makes buying silver for production, refining, retail etc the equivalent of juggling razor sharp knives.

The net result? Refiners have stopped buying 90% because they can't afford to hold it for 3 weeks (the time to refine/recast). The same goes for manufacturers, even big ones like the US Mint/Royal Mint/Royal Canadian Mint. Go to timestamp 150 seconds in.

Refiiners have stopped taking 90% for re-refining, which creates the constitutional discount for stackers.

Manufacturers have compensated by reducing/stopping production of low margin products, (bars, generic rounds) You'll notice they are still making limited amounts of high premium products.

Smaller dealers have reduced purchases, and have jacked up the retail margins to compensate. I know one local LCS that has essentially closed to the public, (Jan 15, 2025) but remains open to their former customers who want to buy/sell because the combined spread is large enough to offset the risk.

This situation will continue until a wooden stake is driven through the heart of the (((vampires))) running the COMEX and the LBMA. I expect that to happen in the form of a force majeure, forced cash settlement for customers who bought silver and stood for delivery.

>>12571

Long video, the first half to third is worth the watch at least. Interesting how rising prices and scarcity together can send the dealer bust because they cannot close a sale even if the customer is willing. I pity the late entrant to the stacking game. I just wonder what it will be like when prices stabilize, what currency or monetary system will we be in?

>>12572

>Interesting how rising prices and scarcity together can send the dealer bust because they cannot close a sale even if the customer is willing.

Yes, the market is effectively broken. I predict that when COMEX dies, there will be a period of chaos and when it settles down silver will have jumped in price to double of whatever it was when COMEX crashed.

Worldwide we have a severe bifurcation of the silver price.

>INDIA PHYSICAL SILVER PRICE $178/oz

>Small coin some 187/oz

>Physical vs paper spread

>- 🇯🇵 Japan: ~$145/oz

>- 🇦🇪 UAE: ~$165/oz

>- 🇨🇳 China: ~$140/oz

>- 🇺🇸 COMEX spot: $100/oz

>Massive physical demand

>No silver bar available India big silver refinery …

>Dealer now cancel more order

https://xcancel.com/prahaladag55586/status/2014740111158837378

>>12573

Crack up boom incoming

>>12577

If we're lucky, that's all we'll get. The western world is inching closer to civil war. Alberta wants to become independent. If you look at the GenZ males you can see that perhaps a majority of them are hardcore ethno nationalists, and rightfully so in my opinion. Multicultural, multiethnic societies are incompatible with prosperous, wealthy, high freedom, high trust societies.

Singapore only works because it is extremely authoritarian with an ethnic Chinese majority and their ethnic ratios are fixed in law.

I was just reading that western democracies have nearly all stopped gathering demographic data that might reveal the true costs of multiculturalism. They don't want their citizens to know how bad things are until it's too late to change course.

It's never too late to change course, it just means that the inevitable correction will be bloody and genocidal, instead of peaceful and civilized.

Ie, civil war. Economic or monetary collapse (crack up boom) will be the catalyst. America could only hold things together while there was enough wealth to paper over the cracks. Resource scarcity will light the fuse.

I’m surprised 8kun is still alive.. I thought it was dead but it seems to be more alive than marks bunker.. really shocking. Anyway, I didn’t come here to go off topic about meta, I have a question regarding Paper trading..

With regards to paper, current doomsday date is March 2026 when COMEX delivery occurs and the cracks (in my opinion) will really start to show. Paper to Physical ratio sits between 3-400:1 and may cause some issues, at least in my opinion, but the answer differs from person to person — I’m simply considering all possible avenues here and know that paper does hold risks anyway and my goal with it is to be able to quickly off ramp with very little hassle.

If paper silver fails miner stocks and ETFS may also fail as well, which flags my confidence significantly.

So what’s the verdict here?

>>12579

This is not investment advice (ha ha, everything is investment advice), but if I was heavily into paper silver I'd be offloading and either buying physical or miners. But I already did that.

Did i miss the frensmark? I fuckin did didnt i?

>>12579

>If paper silver fails miner stocks and ETFS may also fail as well, which flags my confidence significantly.

Paper will fail. They will hand out all the available physical silver they can, then exercise their right under their prospectus, to force cash settle at a time (price) of their choosing. They will likely crash the price just before a Friday close, do a forced cash settlement, and on Monday the price on any other available silver will have jumped by $50 or possibly even more.

As far as miners go, back in 1933 when FDR outlawed gold, the only way people could invest in gold was via miners. The biggie at the time Homestake Mining, wend up to the moon. This was during the regular stock market crash that lasted over a decade.

I think the same thing will happen today. Miners will go insane as people who missed out on stacking when it was cheap, pile into miners, some of whom may do 100x. Nobody knows which ones those will be, otherwise they would already have that upside priced in.

Even the shitty junior minors that have no hope of ever making a buck will go up 5x-10x simply because of the mania. Like "pets.com" during the dotcom bubble.

Obviously, the shitty ones will have the longevity of a tissue paper fire, so they are definitely not a buy and hold.

>>12582

>Did i miss the frensmark? I fuckin did didnt i?

I don't know if it's going to happen now. The silver price is going up too fast. Over 50% in a couple of weeks?

>>12585

>I think we can kind of glean some idea about what is (planned to be) coming next by parsing through shill posts on 4chan

I've noticed there's a couple of distinctly different shills in the recent /pmg/ threads. One is IQJeet who is probably mentally ill, but still paid to to be there. Another one appears to be of the more typically jewey phenotype whose heart doesn't really seem to be in it.

It's tough to be an anti-silver shill with a straight face when silver's making new ATHs and everyone can see the dollar's best days are behind it.

What is a US dollar? Just a piece of worthless paper, unless people have faith in it. The longer people can be manipulated, cajoled, pressured into using it, the longer it will continue to have power.

When silver gets to $140USD/oz, old US constitutional coinage will be worth exactly one dollar per cent. Ie, a quarter becomes worth exactly $25.00. A Mercury dime equals $10.00, and so on.

That is a very powerful symbolism to normies, and should be a wake up call to anyone with an IQ greater than 90 that fiat is a rapidly degrading commodity. 1965 to 2025 = 60 years.

60 years of debasement to reduce fiat to 1 percent of it's original value.

That is why they spent hundreds of billions to short silver on the market, (estimated $390 billion in net shorts outstanding) and why they pay shills on reddit and 4chan and twitter to shill against silver. Without fiat, there is no need for the Federal Reserve. Silver really does end the fed.

>>12580

What sort of time frame would you be thinking? Because I was leaning towards March - COMEX time. I do have miner stocks as well, but I fear chicanery on the exchange as well. It’s tricky, with physical I feel that the risks are minimal and it’s a good store of value but I’m balls deep in digital.. I need to think about next steps before there is a full collapse and crash of fiat.

>>12582

Friends mark is an actual scammer, I wouldn’t count on him for anything. There were anons in the friends talking about picking up the plan but honestly the price moved to quick now and they’ll probably wait for it to settle before bringing it up again.

>>12583

So miners are more or less another GME minus the supression, chicanery and you’d have to be a literal fucking idiot to short any right now? Sounds nice.. 100x sounds like a fairytale to me but I know it’s possible, just gotta be in right.. I’m just nervous that I’m gonna get jewed by the exchange. I mean, I managed to do okay with GME back in 2021 even with the buy button eventually disabled but I have chicanery fatigue — I don’t know what those sneaky kikes have up their sleeves next but I do know that all this shit is making me feel a little paranoid about it.

>>12586

Based. But don’t forget the other shills on that site, they’re also being paid to push and be bullish about crypto (crabbing downwards) and rugpulls (shitcoins, link, etc etc) so a dubious eye is required. I filtered 21 threads alone with around 15 words total in the filter, and most of them are derivatives of snail and crypto. It really is kinda jarring how compromised that site is lol

>>12587

Damn this spacing looks like Reddit.. this site doesn’t work very well on my phone at all, my apologies

>>12587

You're going to have to prepare yourself for semetic shenanigans, not even physical will be safe from that when there's a real pinch. It's all going to be about balancing risk. As I see it, in terms of decreasing risk, the list goes something like this: paper silver>miners>vault services>physically held silver>zero. You've already experienced what's going to happen to anything on an exchange.

>>12589

Yea I’m aware of their chicanery already.. and tbh I know for a fact that my timing here basically needs to be exquisitely well placed if not as perfect as possible; I need to perfectly balance my greed, my patience and my understanding of the situation. This isn’t about being the poor pauper who got lauded out of any earnings from the GME spike by the people who claimed to support him, this is new, fundamental. I owe it to myself and the people to not be so careless or thoughtless about my approach here.

I think you’re right about balancing risk but in these circumstances the risk yields rewards which are (feasibly, and at present) easier to fathom understand and hold. Silver currently isn’t being reported wholesale in the media because they’re wondering how to spin it. Chinese have declared thermonuclear financial warfare on the US and they’re getting arbitraged extremely hard about it. The COMEX fallout in my opinion, is going to topple it.

There’s also the matter of, physical being subject to tax, fees and trading logistics making it less feasible for me currently, as ideally I would need something to flip into fiat before things start getting really fucking ugly. I realise that, now, timing is most certainly of the essence.

Tbf, I still managed to off ramp from my exchange, even though they DID turn off the buy button that day because of the volatility, so I’m well aware of their antiques. I think silver was something they weren’t expecting to get blindsided by and it shows. They’re gonna be brainstorming a solution, I’m keeping my ear to the ground but for now they seem to be stumped. Seems like things are okay for now, but obviously there are going to be storm clouds on the horizon. The main thing will be to be able to off ramp safely and with no hassle. That’s my primary concern with any and all of these holdings.

>>12590

>The main thing will be to be able to off ramp safely and with no hassle.

Only way to get that is going to be to check out early; there WILL be rule changes and trade stoppages near the peak. This is true for all of us, not just you, but it's going to be really important not to get too greedy. Personally, I'm going to pull out around 80% of silver investments when it looks like the bankers are sweating unusually hard and the COT shorts are extra low. Even that's a gamble because we shouldn't expect any warning, but we work with what we've got.

>>12603

I’m gonna say this like a guy who’s seen too many late-night AM radio shows and still remembers when common sense came free with the newspaper: that whole screed isn’t “edgy,” it’s the literary equivalent of a carburetor full of gravel, and whoever wrote it isn’t some truth-teller, they’re acting like the devil’s unpaid intern, scribbling fever dreams fueled by paranoia, bigotry, and whatever expired supplements were on sale. There’s no argument in there, no logic, no evidence—just a blender full of recycled conspiracy tropes, cartoon villain nonsense, and hate masquerading as insight, the kind of junk that’s been debunked a thousand times by historians, economists, and anyone with a functioning frontal lobe. Gold and silver don’t have secret loyalties, money doesn’t work by mystical sniffing powers or lunar beams, and blaming an entire group of people for the complexities of global finance is what lazy minds do when they’d rather rage than learn. And calling that pile of hallucinations “logical” is like calling a broken clock a master watchmaker because it’s loud about being wrong. The real trick here isn’t some imaginary cabal—it’s how the devilish little voice behind that rant tries to swap thinking for sneering, facts for fantasy, and accountability for scapegoats, hoping nobody notices the emperor’s got no clothes and the argument’s got no spine. I’ve been around long enough to know this routine: dress up ignorance in shock value, yell “wake up” real loud, and pray nobody asks for proof. Sorry, pal—this isn’t revelation, it’s rot, and the only thing it exposes is how fast a mind can slide downhill when it trades reality for hate and calls it wisdom.

And don’t even get me started, because once you peel back the duct tape and tinfoil, you can smell the sulfur on this thing from a mile away—this isn’t some rebel thinker, this is a crabby little devil with a keyboard, stomping around the basement of his own skull, smashing together half-remembered myths and hate like a toddler with pots and pans, calling it a symphony. I mean, give me a break, I’ve owned lawn mowers with more internal consistency than this rant, and at least when a mower backfires it’s honest about being broken. This is what happens when rage replaces reading, when suspicion replaces curiosity, when a guy decides every problem in his life must be caused by some spooky shadow instead of, say, his own refusal to grow up and learn how the world actually works. And the angrier it gets, the dumber it gets—always does—because fury without facts just starts chewing on itself, looping the same nonsense louder and louder like a blown-out speaker at a VFW hall dance. You can practically hear the devil giggling in the background, because nothing feeds him better than a person who thinks they’re “awake” while sleepwalking through recycled lies from a hundred years ago. And yeah, I’m mad, because I’ve watched this movie before: first it’s jokes, then it’s conspiracies, then it’s dehumanizing garbage, and suddenly the writer’s not arguing anything at all, just vomiting bile and calling it bravery. That’s not rebellion, that’s surrender—to ignorance, to fear, to the ugliest shortcuts the human brain can take. If this is what passes for “insight,” then hell really is other people’s bad opinions shouted with confidence, and the devil doesn’t even need a pitchfork anymore—he just hands folks a keyboard, lets them spiral, and waits for the smoke to rise.

>>12591

You’re right of course. I’m sorry about the torpedo it looks like he followed me here. My opsec was good thoughbeit but it’s obvious I’m being watched kek oh well

>>12586

Timing obviously is hard, but I see two major things at play. Firstly the fundamentals, industrial, geopolitical and the definancialisation of the global economy. Secondly is COMEX and LBMA trying to save their sorry asses from being made irrelevant, which is where traders, scalpers and speculators are nibbling away like piranhas.

While the fundamentals are intact, all the technical analysis should be biased to the bullish case. This price smackdown therefore is very bullish because it shows the beast is thrashing and resisting.

No rush but if you can find a convenient way to convert from a paper counterparty to something more real, like an actual mine or physical literally in your hand or buried somewhere safe, then do it. Timing is hard again, but on a down trend is cheaper because the price works in your favor as you convert.

>>12586

Yeah the symbolism of the 100x debasement of the US dollar will be powerful, particularly as a suite of ideas regarding the fiat currency disintegrates and people are confronted with the new reality of currency or wealth. People who only ever borrowed the perspectives of others might have to face a period of uncomfortable uncertainty where they would be confronted with new ideas, and the main stream to which they are beholden takes time to manifest… Maybe they are the ones to which the mass propaganda shill posts are directed.

I think that as stackers a part of us becomes collapse accelerationists, and we embrace the chaos to follow, within which we have confidence for having a part to play, for we have prepared ourselves…

>>12590

I’m personally a bit skeptical as to the apparent conflict between US and CH - so far nothing of significant harm has been done to each other, and increasingly the silver transfer seems more and more like a wealth transfer - or a deal. I’m certainly being conspiratorial here, and we can still plan based around the facts of what we see to be occurring in the markets in both US and CH, but as with the Wuhan virus, there are times when both countries are suspiciously coordinated - including this time.

>>12615

Tbh yesterday I threw hard, and panic mode set in — was looking for some more bear thesis to see what I could find and what I found was essentially emotional arguments that attacked holders sensibilities and mocked them. Fud posting on 4/biz/ has currently reached a staggering crescendo regarding PMs and even Miners too, moaning about ‘shiny rocks’ betting on silvers downfall, etc. Essentially defending the corrupt baseless system which dominates the financial market. This level of shilling has now reached /pol/ levels board wide and will likely continue over time and HEAVILY spike during downturns and dumps, especially that large dump yesterday, of which there has been healthy speculation that the preceding pump was partly manufactured in order to create fatigue, and so as to dump afterwards and destroy the top buyers. So they’re not opposed to the idea of manufacturing a pump from which to dump akin to the old Shitcoin scammers of olde (it’s no wonder they enjoy crypto so much given its incredible volatility). In fact, yesterday silver spot price behaved very much like a Shitcoin in price performance, albeit on a much smaller scale — that said this may prove that their powers are mainly focused on creating dissent, fear, confusion and mania from which to thwart and deceive.

Another tactic has to been to use spamming/flooding to great effect. Threads are rapidly swapped in/out depending upon sentiment and spot price, when it’s up, there are questions regarding the use case of precious metals and its validity as a form of currency. When it’s down, hysteria and panic farming — speculating about inane crashes the likes of which you would more likely see in crypto. That said, high volatility does imply greater downsides and upsides, therefore I think best case is to simply act with caution and care around cases where the price seems artificially floated in order to manufacture these pump and dumps quickly followed by price shortage.

If silver can have price movements resembling shitcoins in the space of a few hours then this is going to need some consideration about proper approaches. This isn’t just a flippant ‘hold until COMEX’ deal anymore, this is ‘The entire state hates silver rigorously and wants to see it destroyed.’ This extends to gold only somewhat because the two are associated, but silvers meteoric rise is at this point a better ROI in the short term, potentially.

As we move forward, I expect more chicanery and difficulties to emerge in time, and new strategies to combat that. Vigilance against the threat and the encroachment of them on the price will be most vital, as is the need to ensure and protect the cost basis without being destroyed by fees — keeping a level head amidst all trades and observing the markets and Cooly regarding the fud which relies on appeals to emotion, hysteria, a modern traditions of disregarding precious metals as any form of currency.

>>12616

Honestly, yes sometimes they work in tandem, but normally their own interests are not often inclined towards eachother, their goals are not the same. They cooperate as and when they see it necessary but make no mistake, China is not trying to destroy US with missiles but information warfare, It’s about escalation through the very same hysteria found on 4/biz/ and other boards, except these same individuals know that most of these individuals are enemies of the system and useful as proxies so the majority of the time it seems they’re disinclined to intervene or even stoke the flames.

> People who only ever borrowed the perspectives of others might have to face a period of uncomfortable uncertainty where they would be confronted with new ideas, and the main stream to which they are beholden takes time to manifest… Maybe they are the ones to which the mass propaganda shill posts are directed.

You’re seeing this occur in real time. The posting has reached a generous crescendo and no doubt the moments of silence are moments when they return to their offices and sanctums in order to formulate new plans. Current plan seems to be to muddy fundamentals and create exhaustion surrounding periods of growth, and to compound hysteria, uncertainty chaos and fear during downturns. That is most certainly why you can expect more of these manufactured pump and dump scenarios and why proceeding should be made with caution and care, and not carry the words of these invalids too close to heart — follow your logic and your own interpretations of the graph and the situation closely and objectively and you can come out on top. They’re relying too hard on pure panic within that volatility which breeds uncertainty, and then to compound upon it creating another new paradigm of fear and doubt from which to funnel money back into crypto and other markets from which they have total dominance and control.

>>12616

If you want to sleep better at night and stress less during the day, just keep an eye on the Shanghai exchange, on backwardation. The whipsaw we saw was apparently due to options expiries and probably bullion banks interfering to increase the volatility. After all, they are recommending an exit from Silver and into Gold. Well ((who)) has all the liquidity on Gold?

The arbitrage between paper western exchanges and the physical prices is just huge. While all these fundamentals remain in place, the bullish case for silver is as good as it gets.

>>12620

In the US, markets broke. The enabler was the new margin requirements which get amplified with price swings, allowing triggered margin calls all over the paper landscape. This has flushed out the speculators to some extent but the house won (bullion banks). However along with this, miners and refiners who also play the market for hedging and side hustles got ass whipped.

China is possibly more leveraged than US on PMs so a bloodbath there may be larger. The proportional margin rate rule increased the volatility of this drop. But this is assuming the bulk of price discovery is not suppliers and consumers of physical metal. It might not be.

Long term fundamentals are unchanged.

The short term this might cause a GFC type event if Asia doesn't puke and COMEX futures bounce to new ATH, ripping the face off any short positions not yet closed.

This will definitely be interesting. I am just annoyed that this is spilling over to the boring industrial metals too.

I'm a little slow and just realized this juicy dump happened right before the monthly close and with enough time for prices to recover before tax return season (and my bonus). I won't say that means we're in the end game yet, but I'm checking my harness to make sure I'm strapped in.

imaged size still f'd?

>>12627

Top callers have been right. Is this Hunt Brothers 2.0? Han Brothers? Fundamentals haven't shifted, at least not yet, but I am stopping DCA until I see the ass end of this bear.

>>12630

Maneco64 on his livestream with Clive Thomson today talked about gold floor price being set at $5k or as high as $15k per ounce USD at some point, being a basically inevitable outcome. And Silver at $120. Reasoning being a way fixing the balance sheet. But if Fort Knox is empty….

>>12633

>>12628

Looks like it's fixed now.

>>12630

Right on.

Physical silver has become unobtanium in my neck of the woods. All the online dealers have been out since late December. The only way to buy more silver is to buy from private sellers at an insane premium. Gold is still available, but is getting more scarce as well. My favorite coins like roosters, vrenelis and sovereigns are impossible to locate now. Boring 1oz bullion coins is the only option if you want gold. Weird times.

>>12637

Thanks for the update on 8ch.net. I get a flag icon bug on 8kun.

Are you vi or emacs, or neither?

did a lot of people sell during the run up and stop posting?

>>12653

I don't plan to touch my physical until we hit higher numbers and right now there's no pumping, no dumping, just consolidation. I'm still up bigly and comfy, but I don't have much to say because I'm kinda bored again. I just want the next leg up to happen so I can get out of these stonks,at least.

>>12649

Listening to a german cryptographer talk to Tucker Carlson and he says that in Europe, when you take money from the ATM, the machine can record the serial numbers as it dispenses the cash, and if you spend the cash at larger corporations, it gets scanned again when processed. timestamp 1:14:50

https://xcancel.com/TuckerCarlson/status/2022370191108125080

https://x.com/TuckerCarlson/status/2022370191108125080

>>12657

>I didn't notice them scanning bills at Lidl or whatever.

It would be scanned by the money counting machines in the counting room at the end of the day.

Obviously smaller shops won't have the hardware to do this.

As an aside, the first time I visited eastern Europe back in 2007, I commented to my friend that it was shocking to see how little obesity there was. All the younger people were fairly slim and appeared healthy. By 2021, visiting the same country, I noted there appeared to be a growing obesity problem. I thought they might be American tourists, but they were native language speakers.

It really opened my eyes that there is likely a genetic component to obesity that gets triggered by certain types of food ingredients. Lidl, Aldi and Kaufland are all full of highly processed, but extremely tasty goyslop that is incredibly addicting. Now they've started adding bugs to it.

I loved their baked goods, but we are switching to a more ketogenic diet in any event.

>>12655

So to kick things along a bit I wonder how the silver market will go with the Chinese new year kicking off. Commentators on jootube say the paper will tank but I am not so sure. The India market remains open and indirect longs from the far East might still have sway. It doesn't matter for stacking but it does a bit for miners.

>>12662

> But I think they are all wrong, miners are going to make bank big time because of other things which are about to happen but which just aren't said out loud yet.

Agree. We intend to recycle the miner profits back into physical gold and silver.

I also agree that the average person doesn't know, and that is almost an additional confirmation that we're on the right track. WHEN the normies wake up to silver en mass, we'll know the bull run in miners is at it's peak. That's one of my big exit points. Like Rick Rule says, he loves commodity stocks that are hated, and sells the ones that are loved.

If shit blows up as bad as it might, many (formerly well to do) people will wake up and realize they are extremely money poor, but they still have lots of stuff, including land, vehicles, motorhomes, etc.

It will be a feeding frenzy for stackers or anyone with real liquidity.

BTW, I didn't save it, but a 3 million+ dollar custom motorhome with granite counters, cedar closet, etc, just sold for $280k, or a 92% discount. The "RV Index" is another indicator of recession.

>>12662

I forgot to mention, 80k+ Harley's are piling on dealer inventory, because the boomers are transitioning from "bad to the bone" to mobility scooters, and younger generations don't want an overpriced, high maintenance hog that is basicly a vanity piece unless one is a serious hardcore biker.

I think it's partly demographics, partly the fact we've been in a recession for the last couple of years.

>>12653

No, I have been checking other stuff for the time being. Silver paper price being 100% manipulated has made me feel incredibly bearish. Tbh I’m waiting for them to crash it for March, then again if everyone knows this is the play then they’ll obviously throw a different spanner into the works like how they did end of January — A historic silver crash which is a feasible mathematical impossibility without artificial means.

My miner prices and the paper spot price have now more or less decoupled. This still makes any price movements potentially irksome, but I’m not going to slowly bleed out if the slam it down like I fully expect them to.

>>12643

Price decoupling already happened to some extent during the crash. It wouldn’t be infeasible for it to happen again.

>>12669

They really need to either sell or include the little foam pad that sits on top of the stack.

>>12665

Miners are now approaching ATH with another $40 to go for paper silver.

>>12675

>Miners are now approaching ATH with another $40 to go for paper silver.

Miners will do a 5x-10x when the dumb money from pension funds start to chase returns. You will know it's time to take profits as soon as the dumb media start shilling the miners. What they are really doing is calling for exit liquidity.

doesn't seem like most people are going to come back

kinda sucks

>>12682

Maybe people will return when the market gets interesting again. The roller-coaster has been a bit exhausting both ways of late. No matter what I'm not posting on 4chan /pmg/ again. After having a taste of quality I'd rather have no discussion than go back.

>>12683

We can't afford to buy very much anymore, but I still have some interesting bars that I'll photograph to post.

Right now I'm sitting here in -20C weather, waiting for the war in Iran to kick off. It looks like the war may pump the price of silver over $100.

I agree that the maturity level of many of the poster on 4chan, along with the shills, often makes it unpleasant.

>>12684

>We

you aren't holo right? weather is finally starting to get a bit nicer here. not too bad of a winter

1930 Bulgaria 50 Leva coin. .500 silver 10 g Tsar Boris III (1918 - 1943)

>>12693

>Banned from 4chan forever.

It's for the best. You were creating value for that shithole.

>>12695

You forgot (((shithole))). 4chan is so much effort to sift out the noise.

>>12703

>That's about all the spot price is good for at this point (fooling anyone who trusts the financial news).

I agree. I'm just venting my frustration at how unbelievably fake the "official" numbers are. The jews who are protecting this war have really pulled out all the stops.

Imagine having the power to manipulate markets to reduce the political blowback for a war on behalf of Israel. Ultimately, such manipulation works only for the short term, at least market wide manipulation.

Publicly traded company buying a lot of silver.

>"I just had a publicly traded company and we're doing account paperwork right now and they're adding silver onto their treasury management. And it's a large amount. I've never seen anything like this," says @JoshPhilipPhair.

https://x.com/MilesFranklinCo/status/2028635374197621146

>>12707

Seriously what's the deal with the jews targeting children all the time? It seems to be their memo at this point, and they use it as as their signature. The pattern is clear in the Epstein files, Gaza and now in Iran. Hurting children seems to be important for them somehow. Evil fucking bastards!

Just saw a short video of chinese citizens in Tel Aviv who were refused shelter during the airstrikes because they where goyim.

4chan pmg is fucking unbeareable right now, honsetly completely unuseable, just non-stop raiding by rabid crypto-fags and government funded spam

>>12712

If people just filtered him and moved on it'd be fine but instead the nu-fags who seem to have flooded into /pmg/ since the bullrun endlessly repeat the same fucking 'gotchas' we've seen for the last 2 years.

>>12713

>If people just filtered him

Filtering is built into 8ch but not 4ch, and I don't use a standard browser that supports the 4chanx plugin, and I'm one of the people whose posts he parodies, and changes key words to reverse the meanings.

The bigger issue is a combination of lots of new younger posters with the "I have x ounces, will I make it?" type posts along with all the crypto shilling and nonsense. Each thing by itself is minor, but taken together it often felt like the juice wasn't worth the squeeze. I generally tried to post informative content, most often news or happenings I found on twitter.

We don't buy very much new metal these days now that the price in Canada is over $130/oz.

I think a market crash is incoming today, Asia is leading. Silver and Gold going to go for a bit of a ride. Time to load up the coffers again. Nothing to do with a blood moon and a bunch of numbers and other numerological stuff.

>>12714

Yeah I've also completely stopped buying, I wanted to buy when it was below $70 during the crash but in the UK premiums kept the price basically pegged at $100, and it's been there this entire time.

>>12711

Doing some quick research and it seems like you're telling the truth. Holy crap it's bad! Disgusting!

>>12448

There was a epoch when people invested in begetting children. Children grew up, found jobs, and brought income to the family. It was even more profitable than investing in precious metals, because precious metals do not reproduce on their own, while children grow up and reproduce.

>>12448

There was an epoch when people invested in begetting children. Children grew up, found jobs, and brought income to the family. It was even more profitable than investing in precious metals, because precious metals do not reproduce on their own, while children grow up and reproduce.

>>12715

>I think a market crash is incoming today

We can see it on stocks. Everything is red. Silver was $79+ (USD) when I first checked this morning, which made me immediately ask my better half if we have enough liquidity to do a silver run.

>>12730

yeah the 'crash' is basically non-applicable to the UK, the prices don't ever actually move for real silver, I don't think it has gone below $100/oz since the start of 2026

>>12728

>>12718

>47% of Israelis polled said it was acceptable for the IDF to rape terrorists.

https://youtu.be/T0VJyru1N5M?t=973

>>12729

Thanks for this, it's gold. With any luck the current wars will cause enough blow back to restore tradition.

>>12733

The thing with polls is that people aren't always honest with their answers. Most likely it's actually higher than 47%.

>>12736

Almost certainly the case.

>>12734

>With any luck the current wars will cause enough blow back to restore tradition.

Severe economic crash will do it. People living subsistence lives don't have the surplus resources to waste on bullshit. Unlike the past however, we may find ourselves minorities in our own countries if the crash doesn't happen soon enough, and different incompatible ethnic groups competing for limited resources tends to end in civil war.

I want to buy a troll doll of President Vladimir Putin. Where can I find it?

>>12749

One of the big considerations with miners in the coming months will be sovereign risk. I've reshuffled a few holdings to reflect that now. Better pick your sides.

Force Majeure is already happened for LNG (Qatar) and Aluminum (Bahrain)

>ALUMINUM BAHRAIN ANNOUNCES FORCE MAJEURE

>We have the long awaited FORCE MAJEURE in a silvery metal- just happens to be aluminum instead of silver itself…

https://x.com/silvertrade/status/2029229129216709017

COMEX can't force majeure because their contract allows them to do a forced cash settlement at an arbitrary price, but it is the equivalent of a default because one almost certainly won't be able to source physical at the settlement price, because if silver was available at that price in the first place, why would they need to do a forced cash settlement?

More evidence that Trump just walked himself into a quagmire with this war on Iran, and it's already having significant negative worldwide effects. My prediction is that this war will trigger a worldwide recession. Many parts of the US economy have already been in recession since 2023.

This is now 100% Trump's responsibility. He now undeniably owns it. The recession may also trigger a market correction I've been hoping for for the last several years. The correction will be very good for precious metals and commodities, and may spell the death of the petrodollar as a primary reserve asset and world reserve currency. It won't be the recession that does it, but the Treasury/Federal Reserve's response (printing money) that will do it.

There is a very high likelyhood this will effectively be the end of Trump's presidency, by causing him to badly lose the mid-terms. 99.999% probability of impeachment.

>It was supposed to be 4 weeks, which turned into 8, and now they're talking about 100 days.

>Observe why Israel and the US underestimated Iran and run the risk of emerging from this defeated, not by Iran, but by the global market.

>Of the vessels that operate missiles, I'd say Iran lost 5 out of about 300. If we consider only ships, that's 5 out of about 40 armed ships.

>Even with the entire coalition's apparatus, caution is making this confrontation slow.

>The same goes for Iranian aviation, which yesterday carried out a bombing on an American base, and the two Iranian planes were shot down by Qatari fighters. But notice that the Iranian air force remains operational.

>Regarding missile launchers: The coalition claims to have destroyed more than 400. I've seen footage of at most 20-30. But that doesn't matter.

>What I mean is that Iran started manufacturing these launchers about 30-40 years ago. How many launchers would a nation the size of Iran produce in 30-40 years?

>Eliminating these launchers is an extremely difficult task that will take a long time.

>The US-Israel prepared for a 5-day war, ignoring a series of scenarios.

>Today, an outlet reported that they're requesting more anti-air defenses against drones.

>Who enters a war against Iran without thinking about that? But this won't help much against these stealth drones.

https://x.com/pati_marins64/status/2029443641177993624

Will the US debt ever be paid off?

Luke Gromen: Not in real terms.

>US 120% of receipts goes to interest, or interest like obligations. (entitlements)

The Economy is About to Collapse | Luke Gromen

Devaluing the US dollar means gold and silver go up in real terms.

>>12766

Other recent events is the assassination attempt on Putin involving drones. And then it's the kidnapping of Maduro.

>>12765

>Imagine twelve years of completely open borders, (12 million illegals/year)

This is a problem everywhere, not just North America. Immigrants from war torned countries flood Turkey, Europe and many other coutries as well. It's funny, you don't see Israel taking in any refugees after their rampage in the region. Even visiting Israel as a goy touristis is risky in the best of times and you risk waiters spitting in your food, ignoring you and treating you like shit. I think much of the world would be far peaceful and safe without Israel in the picture.

LNG production from Qatar has stopped, it will take two weeks just to start the liquefaction chain, and two more weeks to spool up to full production.

>Korea has 9 days

>Taiwan has 11 days of inventory

>You should know how the new semiconductor industry look like by next weekend

https://x.com/DavidLe76335983/status/2029755260416221590

Semiconductors stop being made when the LNG runs out.

>>12771

If Taiwan runs out of energy and they get desperate. Might this event accelerate reunion with China? I mean China has reserves and might use them to save Taiwan in change of peaceful reunion. This might be a stupid take, but it would be funny if Israel/USA would be the reason for a peaceful reunion.

Interesting times for precious metals. The yellow metal's signal is getting stronger - when gold flashes this bright, it's like a flag waving in the wind, telling us something's changing. Stay vigilant frens.

>>12772

>If Taiwan runs out of energy and they get desperate. Might this event accelerate reunion with China?

Doomberg did an appearance a couple days ago and made exactly that case. Iran is diverting US intercepter missiles and other resources from all the US allies, including Korea, Japan and Taiwan, which makes it easy for China to simply blockade Taiwan which would force them to capitulate. Taiwan has no domestic energy supplies once they stupidly made the decision to give up nuclear power.

>but it would be funny if Israel/USA would be the reason for a peaceful reunion.

Not exactly an "enthusiastic" reunion, more of a "shotgun wedding".

John Mearsheimer in a separate interview says China is America's real geopolitical threat.

https://youtu.be/K7dz4QE8VG8

>>12782

Col. Douglas Macgregor says Trump may possibly be removed from office by his own cabinet. Trump clearly did not think the Iran attack through, did not properly plan what the end state should be, and has put himself into an unwinnable situation. The only thing Iran needs in order to win is to survive.

In order for Trump to win, he must secure an unconditional surrender and install a puppet pro-Israel regime.

The only wildcard is what will happen if Israel uses nuclear weapons on Iran. Israel has warned Iranians living in the region of Fordnow to leave the area for their own safety. Fordnow is the deep underground uranium enrichment complex that the US bombed unsuccessfully, with special deep penetration bunker buster bombs back in June of 2025.

It's been said that the only thing that could fully destroy that hardend facility would be nuclear weapons.

>>12787

>I hope Iran or another party decapitated trump or smellyyahoo

The United States and Israel have now made decapitation of heads of state (during negotiations!) into a legitimate strategy, so if it happens to Trump and/or Netanyahu, they have no moral or principled grounds to object.

This is the problem with a "pragmatist" like Trump. He doesn't have formal principles of conduct or morality, which is very jewish in my opinion. Considering the perfidy, (sneak attack while under the flag of truce/negotiations) neither Iran or anyone else can now trust America, nor any agreement that America makes. Perfidy is a war crime. (ie transporting troops and weapons in an ambulance is another example)

I can't see how this war ends other than by the US unilaterally stopping the attack, but that doesn't mean Iran will necessarily stop, and we know Israel is already threatening to use nuclear weapons. If I was Iran, I would be working as fast as I could to get my own physics packages prepped and mounted on my own missiles in preparation to retaliate in kind should Israel use a nuke.

The reports from Israel is there is a 5 year jail sentence for anyone who shares pictures of war damage, so we know it's not going well for the jews.

Best case scenario: the USA gets humiliated by a poor country of 90 million who have been strangled by harsh international sanctions for nearly 50 years.

Worst case scenario we get a nuclear WW3.

In both cases, stacking beans/bullets/bullion is the smart move.

>>12795

This means paper silver is still getting slammed right? I still dont really have a spot to reliably hold physical right now and I’m not just gonna carry it around with me, what options do I have? My ass is still sore from negotiating the hebraic antics of paper, I hold miners but I’m guessing because of the war chicanery things might be coming unravelled for a lot of them?

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>>12801

Dropping an atomic bomb on a non nuclear power in a fight that Israel started? Yeah, I can see this happening. We're talking about people who teach their children to spit on foreigners here. Israelis are evil devil worshippers! And I'm not just saying this because I hate them. They're actual satanists! May god help us all.

>>12803

> This would greatly hasten the speed of de-dollarization of the world economy because America would be threatening to remove SWIFT access and sanction any country that refused to do business with Israel.

This is what would help propel gold to $20k/oz and silver to $1000/oz.

Trump will certainly be one of the most infamous Presidents in US history.

>BREAKING: The U.S. has begun deploying paratroopers and army to the Middle East.

>The deployment will take 3 weeks, with initial a.i.r.d.r.o.p around 100,000 troops into the heart of Iran.

>https://x.com/FinanceLancelot/status/2030259053843116157

Such an operation would make Dunkirk look like a brilliant and successful operation.

>>12807

It turns out that it's damn dangerous to live in the US because the White House considers the country's citizens to be expendable matter. You live with your wife, beget children, and then bang, another stupid donkey war, and one son comes back in a casket, and the other son comes back without his left arm. America, why are you so crazy bitch?

>>12803

I hear you mate and I concur with everything you said. It still irks me though, this war is just totally meaningless and it's making our lives even shittier than before. It's insane!

>>12809

Some parts of America (both on the left and the right) are ready to either secede or civil war or both.

You couldn't pay me to live in big city USA, and there are other parts of rural US that are heavenly.