/biz/ - Business and Finance

>>12527

This is insane. There are like three different prices of the same thing in the same amount in different parts of the world.

>>12529

Some of the differences now exist because of import/export controls, tariffs/taxes, and wholesale vs retail prices. This makes the paper vs physical difference harder to interpret right now. Miners are priced against paper still but more forward looking than before, so not as big a bargain as they used to be. I'm reading about headwinds for silver's rise. One of them includes replacing silver with copper for solar panels over the next 1-2 years. But for now looks to me that nothing is stopping it apart from derivative games.

https://www.kitco.com/news/article/2026-01-07/tds-takes-another-swing-shorting-silver-looking-drop-40-next-three-months

> Ghali said the rally is overdone, as higher prices are expected to start rebalancing the physical market. He explained that the catalyst for a silver selloff could be triggered by President Donald Trump’s decision on the precious metal’s new role as a critical metal.

I must be stupid. I thought if it's a critical metal the value goes up not down because of reduced flows.

Just crossposting for anyone who is unaware and may be interested, one anon is having a go at getting frensmarks made in the other /pmg/

Presale in 2 more weeks, he says he will give updates on weekdays, 9PM PST.

No screencap possible so I've quoted him below:

Timeline - Hesitant to say, but let's just say for this project it would be prudent for silver price to crab for yes, two more weeks.

Website - will likely be shopify d/t low fees, integrated payments and international shipping, and fastest payouts (hopefully). Do not expect the website to have the FM on it because if shopify puts a hold on the money and looks at the project they can shut it down like they have certain projects in the past. But we'll see.

Price - there is no price right now, but because of the turnaround between release of funds from the pre-sale to the mint, the volatility of silver has to be priced in. I ask everyone to consider the price of anony's cheesed run when silver was something like $35 an ounce.

Perks - Our main goal is to get these produced and because of the rush, volatility, and mercy of whatever mind hopefully approves us (because let's not lose our hats, we still don't have more than sales manager approval from the 2 mints), perks are not being considered.

Packaging - still thinking about this. International buyers should expect discrete and creative packaging.

Great question. So, the big thing in the air remains that the 2 mints, hopefully next week, will verify approval and I will pay for the dies. For those who don't know, we have gotten quotes from 2 mints, who have seen the mock ups. We were rejected by another mint due to "copyright" concerns and company standards. These 2 mints have different capabilities and different pricing. Once approved and the dyes are paid for, I will notify in /pmg/ when the website goes live. For example, I will announce that at X time, I will give the website address. Again, because of the silver's volatility, being able to jump 10% in one day, and possibly more in the future, it will be a short pre-sale, probably 24 hours. It's closed, we lock in the price with mint.

I will announce on pmg at what time the website will drop, and you will have to be in pmg at that time. But don't worry because there is no selling out of the standard silver round since this is all preorder. If you hang around here enough and check in on weeknights 9PST, I'll continue to update when that drop will happen.

>>61615576

Can't be sure of this. If buying a roll, no. If buying singles, maybe. This adds to cost in materials, shipping, and time. I would like for them to be in capsules, but at this time, I don't know if it's feasible, and I don't want to be getting ahead of ourselves. We still don't have production approval.

>>61615590

Thank you

>>61615592

If you think these are going to cost 20 dollars over spot you are out of your fucking mind.

>>61615593

You got it. The next big announcement is whether or not we get more than just sales manager approval. I'm just trying to update everyone on where we are right now.

>>61615600

There is a multiple day turnaround to secure funds from a pre-sale. During those days if silver spikes more than what I price in the round, I can't pay the mint and everyone is getting a refund and I'm out the cost of the dies. This should make sense to people on a business and finance board. Price is a sensitive topic and there's a lot to say about but if you all trust me with your shipping address then I hope you trust me in pricing as well. But right now the price is 0 because we don't have production approval only a couple very nice sales managers who have said "yeah, we can make that. Let me get you a rough quote."

>>12537

That host was absolutely clueless.

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>>12544

Good video.

>>12543

>That host was absolutely clueless.

Typical cryptard.

>>12542

>Just crossposting for anyone who is unaware and may be interested, one anon is having a go at getting frensmarks made in the other /pmg/

Thanks for the info. I see that 4chan threads are now spinning faster than JPow's moneyprinter since Sunday open.

>>12547

The posts are all on repeat, too.

It's like mass hypnosis through chanting.

>>12545

The charts are good but fundamentally the shale oil business is the canary in the coalmine and those are becoming increasingly idle at the moment. The bottom isn't in, but silver is the best PM play right now I think, although some think it's platinum and palladium.

>>12557

Forgot about the image thing

https://files.catbox.moe/v6f6hn.png

>>12561

All bullish. I hope silver makes a healthy retrace so I we can all buy some more.

>>12562

I feel like the rapid increase in value has basically validated our concerns about long-term price growth - at this point I’m fine with any degree of tamping for cheapies.

>>12558

I really hope Jim is able to fix that image limit issue, this place is much nicer than 4chan. I understand this is a money losing hobby project.

Thank you Jim for what you've done, we do appreciate your efforts.

>>12561

The bigger issue is COMEX and the LBMA have essentially broken the silver market due to their decades of price manipulation. The "spot" price isn't real because you can buy as much paper silver as you wish, but you cannot take delivery of the physical manifestation of that paper.

Like a fractional reserve bank that only has a few thousand dollars in the vault, when you come in to withdraw your $100,000 balance, they will tell you no, come back tomorrow, they will order in more cash.

LBMA/COMEX can't just print up some more physical silver.

Samsung reportedly purchased 50 million ounces for their next 2 quarters of production, and wanted to take delivery of the physical. COMEX reportedly told them they can only have 5 million ounces, so Samsung went and cut a side deal directly with a miner to buy their output.

This ridiculous situation is making it difficult or impossible for manufacturers and dealers to get silver or even to hedge.

When all is said and done, the true market price for an arbitrary amount of physical may be double or triple the current spot price.

>>12566

I think it's the Nobody Special melonhead guy who points out you can still buy junk silver at or below spot price which supposedly means there's no real shortage for retail, but I don't think that matters for price action because of the scale of the global deficit. I would expect that if you wanted to refine 90% silver to 99.95% purity then there'd be a substantial cost associated with that.

The kinds of buyers that are driving the price are buying bulk amounts and want supply assurance as you say.

I personally think the price (in USD) is never going back down long term, which is partly a demand/supply phenomenon and partly a death of the dollar problem.

We broke $100 lads. (and ladies)

>>12567

>I think it's the Nobody Special melonhead guy who points out you can still buy junk silver at or below spot price which supposedly means there's no real shortage for retail

While US 90% isn't really available in ton quantities outside of the USA, JG is technically correct. The issue right now isn't caused by a silver shortage. On a macro scale, there is an annual defict, which means going forward, if not addressed we will eventually run into real supply shortages, in as early as a year or two.

The reason why retail can't get product is the exact same reason why refiners don't want to refine 90% into 99.99 percent, and that's because the COMEX/LBMA games have broken the normal functioning of the market.

Backwardation/high lease rates means that refiners/manufacturers/retailers CANNOT hedge their silver purchases, which, combined with high silver volatility makes buying silver for production, refining, retail etc the equivalent of juggling razor sharp knives.

The net result? Refiners have stopped buying 90% because they can't afford to hold it for 3 weeks (the time to refine/recast). The same goes for manufacturers, even big ones like the US Mint/Royal Mint/Royal Canadian Mint. Go to timestamp 150 seconds in.

Refiiners have stopped taking 90% for re-refining, which creates the constitutional discount for stackers.

Manufacturers have compensated by reducing/stopping production of low margin products, (bars, generic rounds) You'll notice they are still making limited amounts of high premium products.

Smaller dealers have reduced purchases, and have jacked up the retail margins to compensate. I know one local LCS that has essentially closed to the public, (Jan 15, 2025) but remains open to their former customers who want to buy/sell because the combined spread is large enough to offset the risk.

This situation will continue until a wooden stake is driven through the heart of the (((vampires))) running the COMEX and the LBMA. I expect that to happen in the form of a force majeure, forced cash settlement for customers who bought silver and stood for delivery.

>>12571

Long video, the first half to third is worth the watch at least. Interesting how rising prices and scarcity together can send the dealer bust because they cannot close a sale even if the customer is willing. I pity the late entrant to the stacking game. I just wonder what it will be like when prices stabilize, what currency or monetary system will we be in?

>>12572

>Interesting how rising prices and scarcity together can send the dealer bust because they cannot close a sale even if the customer is willing.

Yes, the market is effectively broken. I predict that when COMEX dies, there will be a period of chaos and when it settles down silver will have jumped in price to double of whatever it was when COMEX crashed.

Worldwide we have a severe bifurcation of the silver price.

>INDIA PHYSICAL SILVER PRICE $178/oz

>Small coin some 187/oz

>Physical vs paper spread

>- 🇯🇵 Japan: ~$145/oz

>- 🇦🇪 UAE: ~$165/oz

>- 🇨🇳 China: ~$140/oz

>- 🇺🇸 COMEX spot: $100/oz

>Massive physical demand

>No silver bar available India big silver refinery …

>Dealer now cancel more order

https://xcancel.com/prahaladag55586/status/2014740111158837378

>>12573

Crack up boom incoming

>>12577

If we're lucky, that's all we'll get. The western world is inching closer to civil war. Alberta wants to become independent. If you look at the GenZ males you can see that perhaps a majority of them are hardcore ethno nationalists, and rightfully so in my opinion. Multicultural, multiethnic societies are incompatible with prosperous, wealthy, high freedom, high trust societies.

Singapore only works because it is extremely authoritarian with an ethnic Chinese majority and their ethnic ratios are fixed in law.

I was just reading that western democracies have nearly all stopped gathering demographic data that might reveal the true costs of multiculturalism. They don't want their citizens to know how bad things are until it's too late to change course.

It's never too late to change course, it just means that the inevitable correction will be bloody and genocidal, instead of peaceful and civilized.

Ie, civil war. Economic or monetary collapse (crack up boom) will be the catalyst. America could only hold things together while there was enough wealth to paper over the cracks. Resource scarcity will light the fuse.

I’m surprised 8kun is still alive.. I thought it was dead but it seems to be more alive than marks bunker.. really shocking. Anyway, I didn’t come here to go off topic about meta, I have a question regarding Paper trading..

With regards to paper, current doomsday date is March 2026 when COMEX delivery occurs and the cracks (in my opinion) will really start to show. Paper to Physical ratio sits between 3-400:1 and may cause some issues, at least in my opinion, but the answer differs from person to person — I’m simply considering all possible avenues here and know that paper does hold risks anyway and my goal with it is to be able to quickly off ramp with very little hassle.

If paper silver fails miner stocks and ETFS may also fail as well, which flags my confidence significantly.

So what’s the verdict here?

>>12579

This is not investment advice (ha ha, everything is investment advice), but if I was heavily into paper silver I'd be offloading and either buying physical or miners. But I already did that.

Did i miss the frensmark? I fuckin did didnt i?

>>12579

>If paper silver fails miner stocks and ETFS may also fail as well, which flags my confidence significantly.

Paper will fail. They will hand out all the available physical silver they can, then exercise their right under their prospectus, to force cash settle at a time (price) of their choosing. They will likely crash the price just before a Friday close, do a forced cash settlement, and on Monday the price on any other available silver will have jumped by $50 or possibly even more.

As far as miners go, back in 1933 when FDR outlawed gold, the only way people could invest in gold was via miners. The biggie at the time Homestake Mining, wend up to the moon. This was during the regular stock market crash that lasted over a decade.

I think the same thing will happen today. Miners will go insane as people who missed out on stacking when it was cheap, pile into miners, some of whom may do 100x. Nobody knows which ones those will be, otherwise they would already have that upside priced in.

Even the shitty junior minors that have no hope of ever making a buck will go up 5x-10x simply because of the mania. Like "pets.com" during the dotcom bubble.

Obviously, the shitty ones will have the longevity of a tissue paper fire, so they are definitely not a buy and hold.

>>12582

>Did i miss the frensmark? I fuckin did didnt i?

I don't know if it's going to happen now. The silver price is going up too fast. Over 50% in a couple of weeks?

>>12585

>I think we can kind of glean some idea about what is (planned to be) coming next by parsing through shill posts on 4chan

I've noticed there's a couple of distinctly different shills in the recent /pmg/ threads. One is IQJeet who is probably mentally ill, but still paid to to be there. Another one appears to be of the more typically jewey phenotype whose heart doesn't really seem to be in it.

It's tough to be an anti-silver shill with a straight face when silver's making new ATHs and everyone can see the dollar's best days are behind it.

What is a US dollar? Just a piece of worthless paper, unless people have faith in it. The longer people can be manipulated, cajoled, pressured into using it, the longer it will continue to have power.

When silver gets to $140USD/oz, old US constitutional coinage will be worth exactly one dollar per cent. Ie, a quarter becomes worth exactly $25.00. A Mercury dime equals $10.00, and so on.

That is a very powerful symbolism to normies, and should be a wake up call to anyone with an IQ greater than 90 that fiat is a rapidly degrading commodity. 1965 to 2025 = 60 years.

60 years of debasement to reduce fiat to 1 percent of it's original value.

That is why they spent hundreds of billions to short silver on the market, (estimated $390 billion in net shorts outstanding) and why they pay shills on reddit and 4chan and twitter to shill against silver. Without fiat, there is no need for the Federal Reserve. Silver really does end the fed.

>>12580

What sort of time frame would you be thinking? Because I was leaning towards March - COMEX time. I do have miner stocks as well, but I fear chicanery on the exchange as well. It’s tricky, with physical I feel that the risks are minimal and it’s a good store of value but I’m balls deep in digital.. I need to think about next steps before there is a full collapse and crash of fiat.

>>12582

Friends mark is an actual scammer, I wouldn’t count on him for anything. There were anons in the friends talking about picking up the plan but honestly the price moved to quick now and they’ll probably wait for it to settle before bringing it up again.

>>12583

So miners are more or less another GME minus the supression, chicanery and you’d have to be a literal fucking idiot to short any right now? Sounds nice.. 100x sounds like a fairytale to me but I know it’s possible, just gotta be in right.. I’m just nervous that I’m gonna get jewed by the exchange. I mean, I managed to do okay with GME back in 2021 even with the buy button eventually disabled but I have chicanery fatigue — I don’t know what those sneaky kikes have up their sleeves next but I do know that all this shit is making me feel a little paranoid about it.

>>12586

Based. But don’t forget the other shills on that site, they’re also being paid to push and be bullish about crypto (crabbing downwards) and rugpulls (shitcoins, link, etc etc) so a dubious eye is required. I filtered 21 threads alone with around 15 words total in the filter, and most of them are derivatives of snail and crypto. It really is kinda jarring how compromised that site is lol

>>12587

Damn this spacing looks like Reddit.. this site doesn’t work very well on my phone at all, my apologies

>>12587

You're going to have to prepare yourself for semetic shenanigans, not even physical will be safe from that when there's a real pinch. It's all going to be about balancing risk. As I see it, in terms of decreasing risk, the list goes something like this: paper silver>miners>vault services>physically held silver>zero. You've already experienced what's going to happen to anything on an exchange.

>>12589

Yea I’m aware of their chicanery already.. and tbh I know for a fact that my timing here basically needs to be exquisitely well placed if not as perfect as possible; I need to perfectly balance my greed, my patience and my understanding of the situation. This isn’t about being the poor pauper who got lauded out of any earnings from the GME spike by the people who claimed to support him, this is new, fundamental. I owe it to myself and the people to not be so careless or thoughtless about my approach here.

I think you’re right about balancing risk but in these circumstances the risk yields rewards which are (feasibly, and at present) easier to fathom understand and hold. Silver currently isn’t being reported wholesale in the media because they’re wondering how to spin it. Chinese have declared thermonuclear financial warfare on the US and they’re getting arbitraged extremely hard about it. The COMEX fallout in my opinion, is going to topple it.

There’s also the matter of, physical being subject to tax, fees and trading logistics making it less feasible for me currently, as ideally I would need something to flip into fiat before things start getting really fucking ugly. I realise that, now, timing is most certainly of the essence.

Tbf, I still managed to off ramp from my exchange, even though they DID turn off the buy button that day because of the volatility, so I’m well aware of their antiques. I think silver was something they weren’t expecting to get blindsided by and it shows. They’re gonna be brainstorming a solution, I’m keeping my ear to the ground but for now they seem to be stumped. Seems like things are okay for now, but obviously there are going to be storm clouds on the horizon. The main thing will be to be able to off ramp safely and with no hassle. That’s my primary concern with any and all of these holdings.

>>12590

>The main thing will be to be able to off ramp safely and with no hassle.

Only way to get that is going to be to check out early; there WILL be rule changes and trade stoppages near the peak. This is true for all of us, not just you, but it's going to be really important not to get too greedy. Personally, I'm going to pull out around 80% of silver investments when it looks like the bankers are sweating unusually hard and the COT shorts are extra low. Even that's a gamble because we shouldn't expect any warning, but we work with what we've got.

>>12603

I’m gonna say this like a guy who’s seen too many late-night AM radio shows and still remembers when common sense came free with the newspaper: that whole screed isn’t “edgy,” it’s the literary equivalent of a carburetor full of gravel, and whoever wrote it isn’t some truth-teller, they’re acting like the devil’s unpaid intern, scribbling fever dreams fueled by paranoia, bigotry, and whatever expired supplements were on sale. There’s no argument in there, no logic, no evidence—just a blender full of recycled conspiracy tropes, cartoon villain nonsense, and hate masquerading as insight, the kind of junk that’s been debunked a thousand times by historians, economists, and anyone with a functioning frontal lobe. Gold and silver don’t have secret loyalties, money doesn’t work by mystical sniffing powers or lunar beams, and blaming an entire group of people for the complexities of global finance is what lazy minds do when they’d rather rage than learn. And calling that pile of hallucinations “logical” is like calling a broken clock a master watchmaker because it’s loud about being wrong. The real trick here isn’t some imaginary cabal—it’s how the devilish little voice behind that rant tries to swap thinking for sneering, facts for fantasy, and accountability for scapegoats, hoping nobody notices the emperor’s got no clothes and the argument’s got no spine. I’ve been around long enough to know this routine: dress up ignorance in shock value, yell “wake up” real loud, and pray nobody asks for proof. Sorry, pal—this isn’t revelation, it’s rot, and the only thing it exposes is how fast a mind can slide downhill when it trades reality for hate and calls it wisdom.

And don’t even get me started, because once you peel back the duct tape and tinfoil, you can smell the sulfur on this thing from a mile away—this isn’t some rebel thinker, this is a crabby little devil with a keyboard, stomping around the basement of his own skull, smashing together half-remembered myths and hate like a toddler with pots and pans, calling it a symphony. I mean, give me a break, I’ve owned lawn mowers with more internal consistency than this rant, and at least when a mower backfires it’s honest about being broken. This is what happens when rage replaces reading, when suspicion replaces curiosity, when a guy decides every problem in his life must be caused by some spooky shadow instead of, say, his own refusal to grow up and learn how the world actually works. And the angrier it gets, the dumber it gets—always does—because fury without facts just starts chewing on itself, looping the same nonsense louder and louder like a blown-out speaker at a VFW hall dance. You can practically hear the devil giggling in the background, because nothing feeds him better than a person who thinks they’re “awake” while sleepwalking through recycled lies from a hundred years ago. And yeah, I’m mad, because I’ve watched this movie before: first it’s jokes, then it’s conspiracies, then it’s dehumanizing garbage, and suddenly the writer’s not arguing anything at all, just vomiting bile and calling it bravery. That’s not rebellion, that’s surrender—to ignorance, to fear, to the ugliest shortcuts the human brain can take. If this is what passes for “insight,” then hell really is other people’s bad opinions shouted with confidence, and the devil doesn’t even need a pitchfork anymore—he just hands folks a keyboard, lets them spiral, and waits for the smoke to rise.

>>12591

You’re right of course. I’m sorry about the torpedo it looks like he followed me here. My opsec was good thoughbeit but it’s obvious I’m being watched kek oh well

>>12586

Timing obviously is hard, but I see two major things at play. Firstly the fundamentals, industrial, geopolitical and the definancialisation of the global economy. Secondly is COMEX and LBMA trying to save their sorry asses from being made irrelevant, which is where traders, scalpers and speculators are nibbling away like piranhas.

While the fundamentals are intact, all the technical analysis should be biased to the bullish case. This price smackdown therefore is very bullish because it shows the beast is thrashing and resisting.

No rush but if you can find a convenient way to convert from a paper counterparty to something more real, like an actual mine or physical literally in your hand or buried somewhere safe, then do it. Timing is hard again, but on a down trend is cheaper because the price works in your favor as you convert.

>>12586

Yeah the symbolism of the 100x debasement of the US dollar will be powerful, particularly as a suite of ideas regarding the fiat currency disintegrates and people are confronted with the new reality of currency or wealth. People who only ever borrowed the perspectives of others might have to face a period of uncomfortable uncertainty where they would be confronted with new ideas, and the main stream to which they are beholden takes time to manifest… Maybe they are the ones to which the mass propaganda shill posts are directed.

I think that as stackers a part of us becomes collapse accelerationists, and we embrace the chaos to follow, within which we have confidence for having a part to play, for we have prepared ourselves…

>>12590

I’m personally a bit skeptical as to the apparent conflict between US and CH - so far nothing of significant harm has been done to each other, and increasingly the silver transfer seems more and more like a wealth transfer - or a deal. I’m certainly being conspiratorial here, and we can still plan based around the facts of what we see to be occurring in the markets in both US and CH, but as with the Wuhan virus, there are times when both countries are suspiciously coordinated - including this time.

>>12615

Tbh yesterday I threw hard, and panic mode set in — was looking for some more bear thesis to see what I could find and what I found was essentially emotional arguments that attacked holders sensibilities and mocked them. Fud posting on 4/biz/ has currently reached a staggering crescendo regarding PMs and even Miners too, moaning about ‘shiny rocks’ betting on silvers downfall, etc. Essentially defending the corrupt baseless system which dominates the financial market. This level of shilling has now reached /pol/ levels board wide and will likely continue over time and HEAVILY spike during downturns and dumps, especially that large dump yesterday, of which there has been healthy speculation that the preceding pump was partly manufactured in order to create fatigue, and so as to dump afterwards and destroy the top buyers. So they’re not opposed to the idea of manufacturing a pump from which to dump akin to the old Shitcoin scammers of olde (it’s no wonder they enjoy crypto so much given its incredible volatility). In fact, yesterday silver spot price behaved very much like a Shitcoin in price performance, albeit on a much smaller scale — that said this may prove that their powers are mainly focused on creating dissent, fear, confusion and mania from which to thwart and deceive.

Another tactic has to been to use spamming/flooding to great effect. Threads are rapidly swapped in/out depending upon sentiment and spot price, when it’s up, there are questions regarding the use case of precious metals and its validity as a form of currency. When it’s down, hysteria and panic farming — speculating about inane crashes the likes of which you would more likely see in crypto. That said, high volatility does imply greater downsides and upsides, therefore I think best case is to simply act with caution and care around cases where the price seems artificially floated in order to manufacture these pump and dumps quickly followed by price shortage.

If silver can have price movements resembling shitcoins in the space of a few hours then this is going to need some consideration about proper approaches. This isn’t just a flippant ‘hold until COMEX’ deal anymore, this is ‘The entire state hates silver rigorously and wants to see it destroyed.’ This extends to gold only somewhat because the two are associated, but silvers meteoric rise is at this point a better ROI in the short term, potentially.

As we move forward, I expect more chicanery and difficulties to emerge in time, and new strategies to combat that. Vigilance against the threat and the encroachment of them on the price will be most vital, as is the need to ensure and protect the cost basis without being destroyed by fees — keeping a level head amidst all trades and observing the markets and Cooly regarding the fud which relies on appeals to emotion, hysteria, a modern traditions of disregarding precious metals as any form of currency.

>>12616

Honestly, yes sometimes they work in tandem, but normally their own interests are not often inclined towards eachother, their goals are not the same. They cooperate as and when they see it necessary but make no mistake, China is not trying to destroy US with missiles but information warfare, It’s about escalation through the very same hysteria found on 4/biz/ and other boards, except these same individuals know that most of these individuals are enemies of the system and useful as proxies so the majority of the time it seems they’re disinclined to intervene or even stoke the flames.

> People who only ever borrowed the perspectives of others might have to face a period of uncomfortable uncertainty where they would be confronted with new ideas, and the main stream to which they are beholden takes time to manifest… Maybe they are the ones to which the mass propaganda shill posts are directed.

You’re seeing this occur in real time. The posting has reached a generous crescendo and no doubt the moments of silence are moments when they return to their offices and sanctums in order to formulate new plans. Current plan seems to be to muddy fundamentals and create exhaustion surrounding periods of growth, and to compound hysteria, uncertainty chaos and fear during downturns. That is most certainly why you can expect more of these manufactured pump and dump scenarios and why proceeding should be made with caution and care, and not carry the words of these invalids too close to heart — follow your logic and your own interpretations of the graph and the situation closely and objectively and you can come out on top. They’re relying too hard on pure panic within that volatility which breeds uncertainty, and then to compound upon it creating another new paradigm of fear and doubt from which to funnel money back into crypto and other markets from which they have total dominance and control.

>>12616

If you want to sleep better at night and stress less during the day, just keep an eye on the Shanghai exchange, on backwardation. The whipsaw we saw was apparently due to options expiries and probably bullion banks interfering to increase the volatility. After all, they are recommending an exit from Silver and into Gold. Well ((who)) has all the liquidity on Gold?

The arbitrage between paper western exchanges and the physical prices is just huge. While all these fundamentals remain in place, the bullish case for silver is as good as it gets.