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df82fd No.12200 [Open thread]

Give me any reason to believe in this cult called Christianity. This isn't a troll. I'm desperate for answers.

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c036d3 No.12201

Because it's Truth.

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1079ed No.12202

Eternal life

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dd60be No.12205

>>12200

you shouldn't. You should follow the Chad Catholicism.

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97aac9 No.12209

File: 43ddeb80bb6878a⋯.png (727.1 KB,1800x2350,36:47,Jews are satanic.png)

Because those in power who want to subvert you, worship the devil.

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c9bcb0 No.12211

>>12200

>I'm desperate for answers.

Then ask a question.

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647d66 No.11816 [Open thread]

Biblically speaking, does the victim in an adulterous marriage have an obligation to divorce, an option to divorce, or an obligation not to?

If a spouse demonstrates intent to commit adultery but it doesn't happen, is that the same as committing the act? Suppose a wife signs up for a dating app and the husband finds out. Should or can he leave her?

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4c0930 No.12094

>>11816

If you have reason to suspect that your wife is committing adultery, you can (and I say SHOULD) divorce her.

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126464 No.12110

>>12094

>divorce on mere suspicion

unacceptable

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564ec3 No.12115

>>12094

You, uh, got a Single verse for that?

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8c4c92 No.12165

>>12094

This isn't /islam/

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c1c5e9 No.12195

File: 70936ae115816fd⋯.png (36.51 KB,526x801,526:801,Adultery.png)

>>11904

I have a theory. Here it is.

First, lets consider the word Adultery. If you pick a dictionary and read the meaning of "to Adulterate", you will find that it means to mix pure substance with a lesser substance. Pic related. With that context we could even argue that race mixing is adultery, but lets not jump there for now. With that meaning in mind, lets read Matthew 5:32 again.

32 But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, makes her the victim of adultery, and anyone who marries a divorced woman commits adultery.

On what logic, screwing a divorced woman is adultery? We know that she had already at least one sexual partner. If we consider that adultery means mixing, and add to it the hidden knowledge of women carrying the DNA of all previous partners in them, it all starts to make sense.

>Article about DNA

https://gnosticwarrior.com/women-may-carry-the-dna-of-all-their-sexual-partners.html

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c1273d No.11834 [Open thread]

Hello. My girlfriend is a Turkish so her family is traditionally Muslim. I love her and I want to marry her and we've discussed the possibility of marriage before but she told me her family wouldn't approve unless I converted to Islam. I have spoke to her about Christ but she doesn't want to give up her family values even though she isn't a strict practitioner she still practices some of the traditions. If she didn't convert I'd be ok with that but we can't marry unless I convert. What should I do? Ending this is not an option as I love her deeply and couldn't live without her. I admit that we have had sex but we've both agreed that sex should be kept inside of marriage so we haven't been having sex lately.

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c8750c No.12073

>>11868

>11846

11846's post was so good that I was going to just move on but then I saw 11868's stuff and felt the need to ask this question, which implies a very strong answer if he can't answer it: What verse do you have to substantiate that penetrative intercourse = "marriage in the flesh?" In the OT the man /had/ to marry a virgin because virgins were worthless without their virginity in that culture, meaning that the man just destined the woman to live forever unmarried in her father's house. Therefore, so that she would not have to suffer such a fate, the man was /required/ to marry her.

This is not /at all/ the case in most of the world today, nor was it really in Jesus' day, which is why this Law is not brought into the NT. (If you want to get angry about me for dissing the Mosaic Law, then I'd like to ask you if you, "wear a garment upon you of two kinds of material mixed together," Levi. 19:19)

Until he finds a verse to substantiate the claim he made earlier (Paul's "You've been joined to the prostitute" verse doesn't count because Paul doesn't say that the men who do this need to marry the prostitute), I'll toss in that you have no obligation towards her, and as our good friend 11846 said above, you've already failed her and trying to save the ship will only drown you both. I.e., if you truly Love her, you'll let her go, get yourself right, and then /maybe/ come back as a proper man.

Now, also keep in mind, all of that has been said completely void of the whole point that you're now dead to your desires and alive to Christ, which means you are to /deny/ yourself, take up your cross, and die daily. Therein, on that verse alone, from Jesus' mouth, your confession of "I have too much affection for her," is actually a statement of idolatry. (My condolences if this hurts to hear this.) Therefore, you /must/ separate from that idol, rather than cling to it and "try to make it right."

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b315a1 No.12086

>>12073

fyi use two apostrophes to italicize on this site

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5cc2b3 No.12088

>>12086

Cheers mate

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7de279 No.12101

Lose salvation and that of your offspring over vagina?

Get your priorities straight.

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ec84d7 No.12167

I'm a Turk and let me tell if you a Turkish girl and her family are serious about religion then in most cases they are nutjobs so run away

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2cf60c No.12114 [Open thread]

Hi i found this Youtube channel gematria the channel decode The Book Bible and everything

There is a sign for Son of Man ! sign in the Moon and Sun! for more info please watch the videos to understand link:

1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9nCcte5LaY

2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svWuXBPB5Vw

3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5Q7VcrC_bU

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c5d4f9 No.4995 [Open thread]

Haven't seen one of these yet, thought I'd make one. Let us discuss Reformed Christianity, the Reformed leaders (Zwingli, Calvin, Knox, etc.), various Reformed confessions (Helvetic Confessions, Westminster, etc.), and of course our central text the Holy Bible which contains the word of God and which we look to alone for doctrine.

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488406 No.12068

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dfb28d No.12070

>>12067

Actually, I'm not thinking about Romans 14:23 at all. I'm thinking about Romans 1:18-20, "For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, 19 because that which is known about God is evident within them; for God made it evident to them. 20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse," which Paul then builds upon in 2:14-16, "For when Gentiles who do not have the Law do, by nature, the things of the Law, these, not having the Law, are a law to themselves, in that they show the work of the Law written in their hearts, their conscience bearing witness and their thoughts alternately accusing or else defending them, on the day when, according to my gospel, God will judge the secrets of men through Christ Jesus," which is reinforced by, " as the foundation for his rebuke of the division between the Gentiles and Jews in Rome (You know why the book of Romans was written, right?) as well as his apologetic for His ministry.

To be clear, I'm saying that Romans 1:18-20 says that God is known by all enough for them to be responsible before Him and Romans 2:14-16 reinforces that all who reject God's way are rejecting their own nature, as they're made in the image of God [which is why they're also legitimately guilty, they have to choose to reject that nature] while also saying that there are /some/ (I understand this as /very few/ according to a variety of other passages) who "Live as a Law unto themselves," and it will be counted as Righteousness to them, just as with Able, Noah, and Abraham.

This is why Paul goes into that, "I did not have sin until I new the Law but then I had sin," section. He's talking about how God judges those outside of the Law according to how they followed the little bit of His nature that remains within them, but the moment you know the Law, you're now held accountable to it. Like so, the moment you have the Spirit, you're now accountable /above/ the Law, to the Inner Law of the NT (Detailed bPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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dfb28d No.12071

>>12064

I mean… Do you have a verse that perfectly outlines God's thoughts on the actions, beliefs, thoughts, words, worship, prayers, etc. that are not done in faith in Jesus Christ of Nazareth?

My first thought would be Galatians 5, where the fruit of the Flesh and the Spirit are actively contrasted in a way that displays the Spirit's fruit as the favorable fruit.

If you're a KJV only type of guy, then Proverbs 15:26, when taken out of context, seems to suit the situation, "The thoughts of the wicked are an abomination to the LORD: but the words of the pure are pleasant words," however, that's a translation that's based on far latter texts, which is why modern translations render it akin to, "Evil plans are an abomination to the Lord, but pleasant words are pure," so it's more about plans to do evil rather than thoughts that are evil (difference between having the thought, "I could steal this," and actually thinking through, "I want to steal this, now how can I do that without getting caught." I.e., meditating on evil, which is why the chiastic structure of the verse synonymizes it with, "He who profits illicitly troubles his own house."

What verse do you have in mind?

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07e9a1 No.12075

>>12070

This is another regular divide in reading between calvinists and everyone else, where calvinists read the subjects of Romans 1 as representative of all humanity while everyone else doesn't.

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03dfac No.12084

>>12075

I'd be delighted if you'd explain that, cause I ain't calvinist, and I'm currently arguing that the subject of Romans 1 is all of humanity..?

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c4790a No.9032 [Open thread]

Israelites were black Africans, acts 13 says so. The white devil people have always oppressed us by keeping us captive in Egypt when we built the pyramids, and under the Roman empire when we (the first Christians) brought forth the Messiah.

Simeon called niger. Niger is Latin for black, anglicised as "nigger".

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da1102 No.9059

>>9032

>everyone whose last name is Black is a nigger

You're so dumb I actually believe you are black.

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19294f No.9065

File: b6c3f19754742a1⋯.jpg (1 MB,1439x2141,1439:2141,Screenshot_20190721-194826….jpg)

Here's an early first millenium Mediterranean man called Niger who was certainly not black

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256670 No.9066

Imagine your ancestors having so little to give the world that you feel the need to steal others' legacy to compensate. Just believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and live your life; no need to LARP.

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5a894f No.12058

DAS RITE

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7df912 No.12756

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fa3091 No.5423 [Open thread]

So what's the big controversial thing about the "Reprobate" doctrine?

How does one know if they're a reprobate?

Romans 1 seems to be the main book that discusses the doctrine at length.

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fa3091 No.6643

>>5506

I hear this a lot. If I may ask, what makes you say that?

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fa3091 No.6843

>>5536

What are sins that are considered something reprobates do? Sodomy, bestiality, and pedophilia?

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777722 No.6844

File: 1ebe0f8d0ae8cb9⋯.pdf (155.4 KB,bunyan, john - reprobation….pdf)

The reprobate are all those left out of God's election.

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9079a3 No.6900

bu mp

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45f4c9 No.12055

If someone is reprobate, they will never be saved. Simple.

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c720b7 No.9057 [Open thread][Last50 Posts]

Are members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, otherwise knowm as Mormons, Christians? Why or why not? Should they get a flag on here?

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910a2e No.11686

>>9270

>comparing the SDA to the Mormons

Are you actually retard?

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f9ef02 No.11854

Freemason cult.

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7d321f No.11859

I had recently joined the Church Of Jesus Christ Of Latter-Day Saints and I just began writing this

>>9292

>>9297

neat brainwashing. At least it's a religion with the Amendments involved.

First Amendment rights, bro

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9bf8e1 No.12044

>>9057

The only religion that I know of that's more polytheistic than Mormonism is Hinduism. So seeing as one of the defining doctrines of Christianity is monotheism, no. To accept Mormonism as Christian, I'd also have to accept Scientology as Christian since they're both "churches."

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9bf8e1 No.12046

>>11681

>God the father, a separate physical being, created the universe and therefore is the Father of all things.

Modern Mormonism teaches that. That's not the classic doctrine though.

>I am going to tell you how God came to be God. We have imagined and supposed that God was God from all eternity. I will refute that idea, and take away the veil, so that you may see. … It is the first principle of the Gospel to know for a certainty the character of God and to know…that he was once a man like us….

Joseph Smith, "King Follett Discourse"

>Mormon prophets have continuously taught the sublime truth that God the Eternal Father was once a mortal man who passed through a school of earth life similar that through which we are now passing

General Authority Milton R. Hunter - The Gospel Through the Ages, 1945, p 104

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2b4fd5 No.7148 [Open thread]

Can some of them be considered Christians who are just trapped in a counterfeit deception and ignorant of their mistake, or should we to be safe assume all of them are agents of deception and confusion until proven innocent?

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f28e84 No.12028

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>12007

The Fathers ABSOLUTELY accepted what you call 'Apocrypha' particularly books like the Wisdom of Solomon, Tobit, etc. Why does that mean anything to you anyways? They're apostates according to your gospel.

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0ada9d No.12032

>>12030

>Vulgate

Weird you'd think priests in the RCC would have read that

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3bfb43 No.12033

For anyone that ends up watching this >>12028

Josiah Trenham is a covenant-breaker. He was an ordained pastor in the PCA and studied at Westminster Theological Seminary. He converted to Eastern Orthodoxy for marriage and not for theological reasons.

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bde448 No.12039

>>12024

Not irrelevant at all since Jews have no authority over the Old Testament books either

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f28e84 No.12040

>>12029

Athanasius also said that the Virgin Mary was more glorious than the Seraphim/Cherubim. He was actually connected to the historical Church, not your sect. He also taught the essence/energy distinction. https://web.archive.org/web/20030414125736/http://chrysostomosca.tripod.com/athanasius_creation.html

>>12030

Basil and so many others quote them as Scripture. You are caught in dialectics.

>"Let me tell you what you believe"

Galatians 1:8 tells you that preachers of a false gospel are accursed. The Fathers do not teach the Solas, go ahead and quote mine as much as you want (same thing Papists do)... I encourage you to go to new advent and actually read what they teach.

http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/3202234.htm

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f1d4ca No.11948 [Open thread]

post him

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b2b32a No.11980

File: b51bca892a7fc76⋯.webm (1.33 MB,590x590,1:1,out_2.webm)

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b683b4 No.12009

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f1d4ca No.12014

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f1d4ca No.12015

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f1d4ca No.12016

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c04967 No.11723 [Open thread]

It's rather sad that Protties think they have a legitimate status as a Church in God's eyes. But they don't. They are heretics like any other. We need to convert them. Pray for their conversion brothers, their souls face eternal damnation!

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a346ae No.11754

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I pray that catholics don't get raped by too many refugees following their apostate pope.

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9ffff0 No.11755

>>11726

Well said, brother.

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65cb7b No.11942

>>11726

Based

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3626f7 No.11944

I was raised Catholic and like Aquinas but seeing the achievements of the Anglos and based Christian Identity has made me see the potential in prottery… or maybe Anglos are just good conquerors and racists by virtue of their God given genes instead of religion.

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f6c606 No.11951

>>11944

Christian Identity has zero accomplishments and isn't Protestant

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ae9f0a No.5742 [Open thread]

I was thinking about this recently. I didn’t really choose to believe, Christ just seemed true to me. Is believing vs not believing something really a choice? I read stories online a lot that just give me a knee jerk “this is bs” reaction. If that happens to you when you hear about Christ, is that really a choice? But then, how can a just God use faith for our salvation? Do we really have control over that?

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07ae90 No.6342

>>6340

Show us a concordance with a competing definition, that permits using the Lord's name frivolously given that commandment

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12421b No.6350

>>6340

>takes the lords name in vain

>calls it a matter of opinion when corrected

>uncharitably calls poster a "dumb nigger" and tells him to learn to read

I donno dude, you seem questionable to me at the moment

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083981 No.6360

>>6350

IDs exist, figure them out.

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82c0c4 No.11939

>>5742

Yes and no.

Firstly it is a choice, although not yours but God's. Christ said to His disciples: "You haven't chosen chosen me, 'I' have chosen 'you' "

Then it's a matter if you follow the teachings and believe or not.

I personally have been an atheist for long time but one of my friends got baptised and he started talking to me and he kinda convinced me (to make very long story short). But later he and his friends told me, that they were praying for someone from their circle of acquaintances for God to pick one of them to focus on. And they prayed for that to happen like within a month (like: let this person be chosen in a month) and within that month I've had my first breakthrough.

So at least in my case it was totally not my choice in the beginning, but later I had to read Bible, accept Jesus as my saviour etc, it was much easier but I could see myself failing at some point then too.

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296644 No.11947

>>5742

No, id say faith isn't a choice, but to activately will it is. If that makes sense.

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89b180 No.11943 [Open thread]

Blest be the Lamb, my dearest Lord,

Who bought me with his blood,

And quenched his Father's flaming sword

In his own vital flood:

The Lamb that freed my captive soul

From Satan's heavy chains,

And sent the lion down to howl

Where hell and horror reigns.

https://memphisharmony.bandcamp.com/track/suffering-savior

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71f2ae No.11889 [Open thread]

What are you currently reading and is it any good?

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778d5a No.11892

>>11889

I read the the desert fathers recently, transported me to a whole 'nother world.

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1c912d No.11896

>>11889

Read it a long time ago. Good when understanding the metaphors for the Christian life

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496386 No.11927

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>>11889

Some books to consider.

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e1c686 No.11930

>>11927

To follow up, here is a library from the L'Abri organization. L'Abri is French for "shelter". The organization was made by Francis Schaeffer who was opposed to theological modernism. Schaeffer promoted a more historic Protestant faith and a presuppositional approach to Christian apologetics, which he believed would answer the questions of the age.

http://www.labri-ideas-library.org/index.asp

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1c912d No.11931

>>11896

Just found out there was a movie made recently based off of Pilgrim's progress. Being a kid friendly movie it does a decent job of communicating the ideas of the book

https://tubitv.com/movies/507867/the_pilgrims_progress?tracked=1

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721b4c No.11880 [Open thread]

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092336 No.11881

>>11880

It's when they start flaunting nukes, then i'll know it's time.

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7239cf No.11887

Eff off zoomtard, since you seem to find looking into Dubya’s or Obongo’s administration a chore let me say this IF 9-11/TWIN TOWERS COLLAPSE, OCCUPATION OF AFGHANISTAN AND IRAQ, DEATH OF SADDAM, BENGHAZI, DESTABLIZATION OF LIBYA, THE DEATH OF GADDAFI, OR EVEN TRUMP’S MISSLE STRIKES TO SYRIA WEREN’T ENOUGH TO UNLEASH WORLD WAR III THEN NEITHER IS THE IRAN SITUATION

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976917 No.11922

>>11880

Let us pray that there will be no war, as it is only beneficial to the Jews.

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