/sw/ - Star Wars

>>30449

Your welcome :3

>>30481

>>>/pol/

>>30481

This board is right below >>>/interracial/ on the list tbh

>>30488

>linking to cuck shit

kill yourself

>>29578

>hurr the weak should fear the strong

>they proceed to get annihilated by a coalition of the weak

Sparta was defeated by a slave rebellion.

>>30461

Yes, and? You know Sparta practically became the ancients' equivalent of an amusement park after Rome conquered Greece, right? Roman senators would pay to wrestle with Spartan youths whilst they undertook their studies in gymnastics. Their whole way of life was turned into a sort of safari for rich philhellenes .

If anything, Sparta simply proves my point further.

>>30463

Well, it doesn't necessitate that either Spartans or especially Rakatans were mouth breathing retards, they simply didn't know how things work. They became the example of how not to run a society.

>>30464

Dictionary result for hyperbole

/hʌɪˈpəːbəli/

noun

exaggerated statements or claims not meant to be taken literally

>>30464

Spartan society succeeded for centuries, though. the fact that they degenerated and eventually became a dead meme doesn't negate their accomplishments. the same is true of other societies.

>>27787

Spite marketing is extremely effective and cheap. Start a fake hashtag, use bots to promote it and your social media network to retweet it and you have news articles on every geek website and mainstream meteor website. Get your actors to slowly comment on it so every day the article resurfaces and you're front line news in every country with internet access.

Even people who don't read the news but do forums will hear about it. /tv/ and /pol/ will make threads on it. /v/ might too depending on the movie. You now have viral marketing done by people outside of your marketing network and all you have to do was get your social media team to write "I hate niggers in star wars" and then one of the social media handlers to write "wow, I hate racists like THIS!" on an actors social media.

Now you understand why all this shit works and why it's done. Warfare became digital, why do you think the media didn't adapt to the digital age too?

>>27789

>about not watching the movie because it had negroes

I believe the claim was that TFA was anti-white male which was correct, unfortunately

>>27720

we already knew this when they were sucking JJ`s dick

>>30377

For those of us without artistic or writing talents, we can try to continue shilling for those with said talents along with shilling for not just the wikis and creative threads, but also for fansites and fanfics that do their part.

>>30398

>Is it even necessary to do anything at this point? Disney is essentially killing the franchise and their own canon by themselves.

We can't rely on them fucking up continously, we really need to hammer it home. The problem is that normalfags *want* to like Star Wars, and Abrams has shown numerous times that he knows how to play people, so he might do it again with Episode 9. So yeah, it is very necessary in my opinion.

>>30401

And I fucked that up. How do I boldtext again?

>>30366

Be sure to leave some baloney around. You never know…

>>28997

>>realtime rendering

So its interactive? Who is going to go to a park to just play a videogame in the current year? Who is even going to play this video game while everyone else just rides on the ride?

>>29205

>dojo

Right now they have a Jedi lightsaber training event at Hollywood Studios. My guess is they'll move it to the hotel.

>>2157

>Not a shoop, m8.

It absolutely is, though. The image is featured in the book The Making of Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith. The attribution for the image is as folows:

>Page 2: Industrial Light & Magic (ILM) composite image of George Lucas with computer-generated (CG) vehicles, planets, and creatures from Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith (art directed by concept design supervisor Ryan Church; technical directed by Ryan Jones).

You're right that the prequels are absolutely chock full of physical models. It's just that none of those physical models appear in the image you're talking about.

I'm praying to Hotwheels that I didn't fuck up any of those italics.

>>28997

That's not what I meant.

>>2067

You, too, can guzzle green milk while rian johnson tramples on your childhood.

I've tried to tell people multiple times, consumers do not like when businesses preach politics. It's a business' job to sell products, not life advice. Don't tell me it's wrong to hit a woman, just sell me my fucking razor. Likewise, don't tell me we need more niggers and women in our movies, just give me my fucking Star Wars.

>>30002

Why would you be sad? I don't even consider pre-Disney Star Wars and Disney's Star Wars to be the same thing. It's like if your friend moved away and suddenly a random dude shows up in your neighborhood wearing his skin like a mask, expecting everyone to treat him the same.

>>30194

i think he was one of those optimistic goys

1. have an agenda

2. think you're the 'RIGHT' one

3. have an ego larger than life

Literally -fucking up star wars- should land you in the Retard hall of fame.

>>30113

>gee let's dismantle the whole fleet and go back to a pre-clone wars state of things that allowed the republic to crumble in first place

>gee let's dismantle the fleet even when there was a verifiable exodus of hardliners former imperials to the unknown regions

>gee Mon Montha pushed for demilitarization even when she led the Alliance and was a personal friend of Bail Organa, the senator who funded the earlier rebel military, who stated verbatim that he and Mothma were creating a militant group during the early empire

>gee nobody would listen to Leia, a former war hero and experienced politician even when there was evidence of the exodus of imperials and senators funding them under the table

Seriously, it's awful writing full of plot holes to justify the rehash of the New Hope.

>>30224

>>30236

This. It sounds like something that came out of Spaceballs

>>30236

Sounds like soy-"male"/female California thinking tbh : "Like why do we need a military that's imperialism and white supremacy patriarchy". This also explains the idiocy behind the "the bombers" [B-17 reference] from TLJ.

>>30241

Spaceballs had a much more sensical plot.

>>30241

>>30244

>>30131

>disney can't and wont do this but

A good Star wars film: militaristic Imperial sided movie.

>>30131

worst is that there would be a lots of beaners who would love it; right now Lucasfilm just think they'll get this audience with stupid rebel beaner characters like Cassian Andor, they're wrong…

>>30147

I know some beaners they think Cassian Andor is a faggot, so I don't think CA was intended for spics but rather for 30 something plain Jane types to lust over given that he looks like he is or was part of a boy band.

>>30148

Pretty much anyone I see online who gawks over the Katarn copycat is either some horny tumblr girl or virtue signaling types obsessed with his "diverse" accent.

>>28728

>you guys still believe in the midichlorian bullshit?

It's canon both old and new, so yeah

>Aww, you still believe in micro organisms? Check this Chinese mysticism out dude. Things just "are" dude.

What? I get that you are personally trying to apply certain aspects of Eastern philosophy to the Star Wars universe, but to act like you've come across the only interpretation that counts is absurd - not to mention condescending.

It doesn't even make sense in the context of the story itself. George out and out said that the dark side is an inherent corruption and abuse of the force and that "bringing balance" to the force meant ridding the galaxy of the dark side and its proponents.

>>28224

Yes, Lucas came with the math "Vader = 80% of Palpatine due his injuries" and "Vader without injures = 2x Palpatine". That is the guy, wrecked as he was, was 80% of something compared to an event horizon, a black hole in the Force, a guy who developed the ability of farting force storms. but even so when one watches RoTJ it's clear that Vader basically threw the fight, he was fighting without any gas. Seriously… Luke just started to swing wildly. He wasn't keen into hurting Luke.

When a person overcomes his mental limitations, his power with the Force can reach it's potential. Jacen became a glowing avatar for a couple of minutes, Bane managed to overcome the guilty of killing his father and unblocked his potential with the darkside. After all, as Yoda said " No! No different! Only different in your mind."

>>28740

This. Vader was capable of easily overwhelming someone as powerful as Palpatine in the end thanks to finally letting go of his own mental restraints for the sake of Luke. With Sith (and jedi), the only limits are those you put on yourself.

Vader couldn't call lightning and all but what they could had explored is the "Sith Sorcery" aspect of it. Vader demonstrated that he was capable of telepathy. He could perfectly gone into Darth Zannah mode and attacked people with illusions and mindfucking. He could drove people mad. Yes, it wasn't in his character (which was basically choke anything that he couldn't cut cut with his lightsaber) but by the EU rules there's nothing indicating that he couldn't.

Also Sith Alchemy. The guy was basically a starfighter/droid engineer. He could perfectly create dark side infused gizmos.

>>28732

>George implied that anyone could train to be a jedi

that never stopped being a thing. the force is in all living creatures, technically even my dog could become a jedi. it's just a fact that unless you learn to wield it, you can't do shit with it and it will only work on its own in random ways (dreams, visions, reflexes).

>>29976

Would've been nice if they continued the comic to see what direction they would've taken the war. A damn shame. Did no other media attempt to continue the story or was it just contained with books? Also the fact that it had multiple authors is probably why I was less invested in the Vong stories than anything else since other arcs had only one or two writers to keep everything consistent.

>>29976

>19 novels

Is that as arduous as it sounds? Why did they need that many?

>>29992

Because it sold very well apparently. Despite all the hate their introduction got in the late 90s, their arrival caused quite a stir and it reignited interest in SW novels apparently, at least that's what Lucasfilm claimed. It guaranteed regular releases so it was mostly more of a business thing than a creative thing which is another reason why I'm not too fond of them. They were essentially more of a gimmick that worked far better in small doses, like this comic did. They didn't need 20 books that's for sure. They always felt out of place too, like you were looking at the darkest and edgiest timeline, that was before Disney of course which easily usurped it of that status.

>>29992

It's arduous, but not because of the number of books. There's some "required reading" before you can jump in because the writers took worldbuilding much more serious and there's a lot of callbacks and characters from previous books that appear with little introduction. It's pretty neat if you're a lorefag because the setting feels more organic and less compartmentalized than it did the early 90s.

Also the series is still much better written than the ones that followed in the timeline, Legacy of the Force and Fate of the Jedi, which had 9 books and 3 authors each.

IMO the real dealbreaker is the tonal shift towards a darker story and the intentional otherness of the Vong. You either like that or not. And if not, it just spoils a big chunk of the timeline.

>Why did they need that many?

Originally the story was centered around 5 "main books" with the rest being filler, kinda how Shadows of the Empire connected the movies. They should have written the main entries first and the rest later. The way it panned out is that some crucial events and character arcs happened in the in-between stories. "Traitor" for example is a small scale story about Jacen Solo, but his development in the book is so important you can't just skip it. It's a also a great read in its own right.

>>29993

Every single aspect of the series is a product of its time. People were tired of the Empire as a villain, so they created new villains. People were tired of the stakes never being as high as they were in the movies again, so raised them even higher. Conflicts being resolved in 1-3 books? Done. Luke having a dozen or so Jedi sidekicks who only appear in certain books and never interact with each other? Ditto. And so on.

It's all addressed there, which is both the series biggest strength and it's biggest flaw.

>>29960

>>29979

No this isn't an adaption of the Vong books, like others have said. For years I've always liked the concept of the Vong. I thought they were a cool enemy, but I never read the books and always heard negative feed back about them. I was bored a year or two ago and started listening to the audio book adaptions in my spare time. Perhaps this has colored my opinion, but I enjoy them. I wish I had the books because the audio adaptations cut combat sequences to save time. I skipped Vector Prime by accident and read the next four in order. The war hasn't gone too south yet so it doesn't seem that edgy to me, but I imagine someone who has read them can comment. The call backs and required reading don't bother me. If anything, reading about a character or place I don't know is fun because I can go and look up their past. The feeling that Star Wars is a huge interconnected world is exactly what nu wars fails for me so much. I enjoy that the Vong books do that a lot.

>>29953

>Although Gundam does kind of get to cheat, since the mech designs are the most iconic thing, and as long as a Zaku shows up, that part of the fanbase is satiated.

True.

>Still though, you could treat X-Wings the same way.

Also true. But despite it, they still handle stories and characters far better than most modern writers have, especially Disney. Even my least favorite Gundam animoos always manage to impress me in one way or another.

>>29956

I've only really been exploring the franchise recently, but I've greatly enjoyed almost all of what I've seen, and been pretty impressed by it's scope, for something that seems like just a cheesy robot show on the surface.

It would actually make a great model of where to go with Star Wars post OT, instead of rehashing big empire vs little rebels forever. You can totally do epic space opera where both sides are evenly matched, or where the good guys even have a bit of an upper hand. The idea of the Titans being people who would have been considered heroes in the original series, who then become tyrants out of fears of their enemies rising up again is really interesting too.

>>29875

Are you implying Vader was more powerful in the force than sheev? He was a broken shell, had he not lost his legs and other arm and Obi-Wan has just gassed him instead of putting him in the oven he would have been way stronger. As it stood he was a disappointment which is why sheev was looking to replace him for so long.

>>30007

He was potentially more powerful. Palpatine himself thought that way, that Vader's blocks were mental. Remember that scenario was Vader dreaming. If we consider a scenario where Vader fully embraces the Dark Side, break through all chains, yes, he could surpass Palpatine.

Just remember that if he fully embraced the Dark Side he could had his lungs healed permanently, only the joy he felt by breathing on his own that broke his healing during his meditations.

>>29958

Also making it easier to have wicked Rebels and noble Imperials. Hell, you could even have scenarios where lawful Imperials briefly work with Rebels to take down nuttier Imperials.

>>29791

>>29793

Did either of those planets have any Imperial presence? The idea is that the player character is a Stormtrooper who's part of a small group of Imperials who have been cut-off from the greater part of the Empire after the Emperor was killed. So basically, a group of Imperials, alone and without help on a criminal planet. That's the premise at least.

>>29795

If you take TCW into account, there's at best a remote listening post on the planet's moon- assuming Kamino still has much value to the Empire by the time of ROTJ. It's a perfect fit, given such a remote place would likely easily get cut off from the empire in that situation. That, and the Kamino cloner's obsolescence in the face of Spaarti Cloning Cylinders and increased reliance on conscripts would be contributing factors to it be worthless other than a small garrison of troops to maintain the equipment/observe traffic between it and the Rishi Maze.

>>29802

That's from the Rookies episode, right? Hmmm, maybe I should use Rishi Station. Although I'm not a big fan a Filoni, this isn't really a serious project, so that might work.

>>27018

tales from jabbas palace and tales of the bounty hunters are great too

>>27022

How would Talz even survive on a snow planet? They can't eat meat, they have butterfly mouths, they can just drink.

>>26470

I cant remember all that got written before the Thrawn trilogy, but I know Splinter of the Mind's eye came out before any others since it was a back up plan for a cheap sequel in cans IV failed at the box office

The han solo adventures also came out in this same period between IV and V

>>29766

There were also the WEG RPG sourcebooks, which fleshed out what we already knew of the universe, and were the origin for many species names and quite a few other things.

>>27018

>>27027

the tales books are, for the most part, good stuff. the fact that they were edited by Kevin J Anderson shouldn't dissuade you from reading.

I liked Greedo's backstory with the clan wars and Navik the Red, I thought that was great. however, I hated that Greedo was written as a noob who didn't know what he was doing. that's not consistent with the OT, and it undermines Han Solo to an extent.