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/catastrophism/ - Ancient Catastrophes

Ancient and legendary catastrophes, Saturn theory and new chronology, and how they tie into myths ,legends and history. Worksafe board. Pornography, cruelty, and off offtopic posters will be banned.

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78c1de No.2

I am only part way though it. Great stuff for what he was able to do in the 1970s before the Electric Universe model was around.

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78c1de No.3

File: ce1c98ebbbaf74f⋯.jpg (67.02 KB,688x1094,344:547,5292805cddc2fa871693fa6cd4….jpg)

This is the front cover

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78c1de No.4

File: 863e9eb4b436a6c⋯.jpg (69.5 KB,1280x720,16:9,maxresdefault.jpg)

More images from the book. I think the back.

I would really like to understand *why* Saturn is always a crescent. If today's Sun were off to the side (i.e. Saturn were orbiting it in today's manner, with phases) then sometimes Saturn would be half or fully illuminated.

The rotation of the Earth below Saturn always exposea an crescent that rotates, top in the day and bottom at night. This is the sickle carried by Old Father Time or the Boat of Heaven of Egyptian mythology.

It is difficult to understand what the configuration is. Is that the modern Sun in front of Saturn? A different planet like perhaps Jupiter? Also it is clear that the ~24 hour day was established by this point so why is Saturn fixed but there is nignt and day. If the Sun were behind Saturn surely it would lead to the same illumimation of Earth irrespective of the time of day.

Confusing. But that is what the legends and rock art says.

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78c1de No.6

File: 4d0ec440a4b9c0c⋯.jpg (285.45 KB,1600x771,1600:771,Village_Glenridding_shore_….jpg)

>>4

Variations on the name El for Saturn seem to crop up everywhere too. For instance, that rotating crescent seems to be the Boat of Heaven in Egyptian mythology but that shape is the hull of a boat in English, hull being phoentically identical to El. In England's Lake District there is a U-shaped valley called Ullswater; the same name to shape mapping.

Once you start looking for El as a name of God and a crescent shape it is everywhere.

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b463f2 No.49

> Once you start looking for El as a name of God and a crescent shape it is everywhere.

Have you ever looked into late middle ages and early Renaissance watermarks (i.e., in sheets of paper)?

Papermakers' guilds in the 12th to 16th centuries seem to have carried an ancient body of myth and memory. They were considered heretics, being a well organized workingmen's craft guild outside the lamestream structures of the Roman church, and were viciously persecuted as such.

Catalogs of watermarks have been prepared from ancient paper archives (such as at the Arches paper company), and watermark history is a sub-field of its own, related to other studies such as emblem books and iconography.

If you look at collections of watermarksfor instance, prepared by Charles-Moise Briquet, "Les Filigranes: Dictionnaire historique des marques du papier dès leur apparition vers 1282 jusqu'en 1600" (available at Archive) or others available onlineit's possible to align claims made by people including David Talbott with what is shown in this record.

The example of the crescent is very interesting IMO because it is often depicted in tandem with the Grail in these watermarks. Mike Baillie interprets the Grail as a cometary phenomenon in the shape of a bowl (crescent) of light, accompanied by a glowing veil (as of comet tail) and a glowing spear (bolt) (of Lugh, Arthur, etc.). I mentioned that in another thread.

I don't think Dave Talbott knew about this body of symbols/memory. Briquet's massive collection of watermarks, from 1907, was generally found only in rare book collections even into the 1990s. A secondary work derived from that (Harold Bayley's Lost Language of Symbolism, 1912) was found only in the Z stacks (bibliographic studies) of research libraries.

After the Black Death of ~1347, European society and economy were massively restructured. Labor was reconfigured and many of the old cultural rootings disrupted. The persecution of heretics from the late 1300s on is clearly both a power struggle and an effort to erase earlier memory. People who today assert that there is some EZ PZ direct transmission of a "moloch cult" down thru the ages don't seem to be aware of the terrible disruptions of 536-545 and the 1340s, which an increasing number of researchers attribute to the earth passing through dense regions of Comet Encke's cloud. The assertion of the halo-bearing lamb-god sacrificed on a hill seems to gain traction in Europe after the 6th century disruption.

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e5b0b4 No.50

I made the /pol/ thread yesterday about british hebrew connection. Going to look around this board and do more research. Cheers anons

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78c1de No.51

File: 493b42d385c65e0⋯.jpg (167.41 KB,1024x1406,512:703,Watermarks.jpg)

>>49

Got it. Here:

https://archive.org/details/BriquetLesFiligranes4/page/n190/mode/1up

I am just looking at the images starting page 225. These jugs caught my eye. 12856 and 12860 are very plasmoid-like on page 249. And I have just glanced at those animal shapes right after.

Thanks! Great find!

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