/fringe/ - Fringe

>>131418

Imagine being so naive

>>130849

If you are looking for a actual explanation of this stuff you should look into actual Christian accounts. The Catholics have over 1000 years worth of writing, and the church accepts the presence of demons (they have exorcists). Obviously as a Christian I believe in the power of Christ's name but as a warning it is probably best not to place yourself in positions where demons would harass you.

>>131787

Except that he's completely correct, which anyone who knows anything would be aware of. Unless you meant the guy in the picture?

>>130849

It seems that an egregore makes the most sense (given the popularity of his name over the centuries), although I've heard many stories of people trying to use his name against some entity and it didn't work, so results will vary.

This probably should have gone in the question thread.

>>131049

https://ac2012.com/2012/10/20/lam-i-am/

Im driving so archive it yourself.

I think it was 2-3 maybe 4 years ago that someone posted a youtube channel here on /fringe/ which was run by a guy who obviously had gone crazy (from lsd I think?) and was uploading videos of him speaking about crazy mostly nonsense stuff.

He was swarthy with black hair, in the first videos he was kinda normal but in later videos he had tattoos and had grown a beard.

Anyone knows the channel?

Are there any books that examine telekinesis and other types of gross manipulation from an occult standpoint rather than a parapsychological one?

>>132493

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCL0f_R_6TFdxg722i5-jL0Q/ This was the link to his channel. It doesn't exist anymore. I don't remember what it was called but I'm 99% sure it's the guy you're talking about. There was a picture here around that long ago of the start of his channel before he'd gone insane and he looked like a relatively normal dude who had a beginner's interest in some branch of occultism I think, and then the comparison picture with his crazy hairdo and his face tattoos and all the nonsense schizo ramble video names and descriptions. I think he might have been part black or hispanic or something, right? The only archive on any archive website that I could find was here https://web.archive.org/web/20170328112807/https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCL0f_R_6TFdxg722i5-jL0Q/ where it says his channel was terminated for going against YouTube's guidelines back in 2017. Maybe he showed his junk or something. One of the videos I found in my browser history was called "REIGNBEAU GAD UV ALL LHIGHT 666", if that helps. I'm going to look in a few other places because I want to figure out what happened to that guy too now.

Do supernatural beings exist in the physical density? I've read about astral beings like gnomes, salamanders, demons, etc., but are there such beings that spend all or the majority of their time fully physically manifested?

>>132496

Thanks a lot, I wish those videos could be found again, this guy was unique.

>>131004

This is what I've been looking for. I needed that catalyst to actually "get" it.

>A nice benefit is you'll also have a much better idea of what you should do, because anything that takes you off track simply won't feel right in your heart. Intuition will increase greatly as well in the form of knowing. Inner Heart wisdom is actually >>> third eye intuition because it is connected all the way to Spirit (as opposed to only Soul for 3rd eye).

That's interesting, SwamiJ's inner guru page speaks of this too, but as far as I understand the information. his rendition has the gate to the Inner Heart Wisdom/Guru as part of the crown chakra rather than the heart chakra. For that matter, I've read about the inner heart in the kali kaula, but I never quite got the significance of thus until a series of meditative walks I did today…

>Keep in mind, some of the people on here are not really interested in this and are pursuing the idea of being a great magician /yogi / leader/ what-have-you. Some are caught up on very basic things like manifestation. Those are both ego-traps. And some are specifically here to provide misinfo.

Understood. I'm still beginning to comprehend sacred consciousness, self control, balance, harmony, and why these are infinitely more valuable than material stuff. I have a ways to go, but I feel certain I'll get things figured out.

Thank you anon, and I thank my divine family for guiding you to me.

>>130874

>everyone should listen to me because i'm a namefag

Get out.

>>131004

> At some point it flows, becomes obvious what you need to do, and then it's just a matter of not allowing your own shadow to stop you from doing what you need to do.

<When you know exactly what to do but just don't feel like it because… with great power comes great responsibility

I think it's actually very easy to find your soul purpose.

The true blockage is fear of failure, fear of power, fear of responsibility, fear of success…

>>130340

>/X/

>Serious 'fringe' research

Have you ever been there? /X/ is definitely worse than /fringe/ in every single way. When asked about magic, they make things up

>>132066

If you know where to look and skip the garbage, then yes. Found a lot actual practicioners of chi gong, psionics, astral projectiond abd lots of info.

Always a few wise anons here and there

Law of attraction works

Basically the Illuminati RHP secret society spooks are panicking because their secrets have leaked to the world wide informative super network. So the best way, they think, of keeping the 'unworthy' from getting this info is to flood everywhere with obtuse new agey bullshit and hope people ignore the truths.

>>132072

>Illuminati

>RHP

pick one

>>131763

Stop using random words please.

>>131653

Link?

>>131641

fuck off fede-lasse

>>131783

you said "stop using random words please"

in response to me saying:

"The imagination is composed of the aether. The imagination exists on the mental plane."

*sigh*, okay I will explain what that means. Those aren't random words.

Aether is the electromagnetic energy that permeates everything around us. It passes through us and we exist in it like fish in an ocean.

This ocean of aether is the mental plan.

When we imagine things we create forms in the aether.

So if you have an imaginary friend that you feed attention it exists as a energy construct in the aetheric plane, like a religious idol you pour wine offerings too.

And this functions as a sort of energetic entity that you can ask favors for that does things within this mental plane.

All things in the physical plane were seeded in the mental plane.

***

It's really annoying when people who don't know basic stuff come onto our message board and pretend they know what they are talking about.

I myself am just a novice and I only know basic magickal theory, so its really annoying that I have to be in a position to explain stuff to people when I am just a student myself.

>>132330

Best way to master your understanding is to prove you can teach it

I will say this regarding some of the terms.

The phrase 'electromagnetic energy' implies that this aether is detectable. In my understanding, it is only when some of the direct interactions happen between that realm and the physical realm that result in phenomena that can be detected as the appearance of some sort of 'electromagnetic energy' but they are kind of getting closer, found something called quantum fluctuations.

However, obviously, when we imagine things, the physical brain phenomena (ie the electromagnetic energy resulting from the synapses and other brain circuitry firing up and activating) does correlate with the phenomena in the aether. Our perception is itself a mental phenomena that only correlates with some of the electromagnetic energy in the brain.

There is a lot of logic that can be decrypted regarding the mechanisms, but it doesn't really matter as the entities themselves are just going on interacting, with no conscious understanding that we as humans are able to grasp, yet perhaps with some inherent mental patterns that function within these mechanisms.

>All things in the physical plane were seeded in the mental plane.

It really is quite interesting to think about it. Which realm is a metaphor for which? Depends on who you ask I suppose. Must be a vicarious yin yang sort of thing.

>>132106

I was not that guy. I had never heard of the concept before you mentioned it, but it does seem interesting. I’m not sure I’ve ever experienced. It seems sort of charmingly backwards. It’s funny in an endearing sort of way, but I think it could also be terrifying. I’ll read up more about it, thank you for mentioning it.

>>132148

I don’t have schizophrenia but it’s possible I’m on the spectrum. Hope you were at least entertained.

>>132032

who are these assholes who come on this message board and talk nonsense?

OP's post was fascinating.

There is no such thing as schizophrenia, its just a lie invented by doctors to make money. OP is brilliant. Don't let lilliputians try to stifle the freedom of the mind to discover the laws of the universe. We are in the process of constructing a framework to live in a society that allows us to be in a state of health, as well as the option of tranquility.

>>132332

>schizophrenia

yeh, for instance if you don't fuck stacy they will say you're still schizo or something (if u want undiagnose it)

its a meme by normalfags

but infact you can have something like general mental weakness or extremely low will power or literally any power

t diagnosed

>>132331

It's nothing but substanceless armchair philosophizing meant to sound 'deep' rather than actually explore any real ideas. Pomp and distracting effects are just a mask to cover an empty statement. OP is a tactless attention whore who has absolutely nothing valuable worth contributing to this site.

If your ideas can't stand alone without frivolous pageantry, they aren't worth sharing.

larp larpity flarp

This is 5th dimensional dracos, listen to them they are the real deal, their way of writing is familiar, they are the sages of the reptilian race, unlike 3rd and 4th density reptilians, those are good and are just spiritual guides to humans and many other being on countless universes, they are also ethereal, they write on 8chan by possessing a person with a prior agreement for a short time to spread their message.

>>131092

excellent

>>132257

God knows what the angels do not.

Being beholden to anything, even wise sages, is not wise.

Drug addicts can only "detox" by suicide. Die.

>>110706

DISREGARD THAT I SUCK COCKS

lots of fruits and veggies and lots of clean spring water (your cheap store brand gallon sizes)

not eating shit

>>118707

you should go for a bike ride, that always cheers me up! I hope you feel better soon depression stinks

OP seek out supernatural assistance for your fasting and your great cleanse

the time that i did such to such an extreme so as to know that i have been detoxed and cleansed was after becoming a reborn believer in the Christ

>>89900

People tend to forget in their peace and tranquility that the earth is full of violence. The best way to fix a people unwilling to repent is to devour/kill them. Could really care less about the love happy types around here, considering while they aren't showing real works worth a damn, the wicked are getting away with murder.

>>123967

2 to me means a switch in polarity of an individual or situation. From good to evil and vice versa. A change if you will.

>>80303

Having love, being loving, and having enemies are not mutually exclusive. Peace is a lie because the war never stops.

The secret value of the number 1919=1000x919=919000=1+9+000=10000, if we perceive the regeneration of ourselves in our body through our soul, we will soon achieve results. The first signs of recovery and cessation of aging, you will always be young. Once opened source https://numerologyangel.com/1919-angel-number/ you will be able to speak to him and by drinking of the living water to keep yourself in the age attained by many years.

>>131594

>>131594

>could you point me to the empirical evidence that consciousness is generated purely by matter moving in particular patterns?

No, but I can't point to empirical evidence to the contrary (not saying it doesn't exist, I just can't find it).

>>131599

>I was an empiricist materialist and the only reason I was the latter was the fact that I had been indoctrinated to ignore the myriad of personal experiences that point to there being more than matter by my nihilistic family. Once I started being a real empiricist, materialism fell apart in more or less the span of a year.

Can you elaborate?

>>131634

>No, but I can't point to empirical evidence to the contrary

This is utterly and completely irrelevant. A rational person would suspend judgement in such a case. It is fallacious to assume the truth of a claim simply because there is no evidence to the contrary, and thus Molyneux's beliefs are not based in empiricism at all.

Every once in awhile Molymeme gets really retarded and his followers don't seem to call him out on it. Look in the comments section! They all think he knows his shit when he's so far off about what he's talking about.

OP confirmed for never having read plato

<"But I ask. How can we have free will if praying is supposed to be effective?"

this is a great question and it has a great answer. God is all powerful and knows everything. God created everything. since God created everything, God controls everything. since God controls everything, there is no such thing as free will. God created free will, but since God created free will, God controls it, so there is no free will but of course this is a special paradox created by God. since God created paradoxes, God also controls paradoxes. God controls all, in true reality and in fake reality. It doesn't have to make sense to our imperfect human minds. since God knows everything and is all knowing and all powerful, God is responsible for all the thoughts that enter your mind. God knows all the thoughts you ever had, all the thoughts you ever could have had, all the thoughts you might ever have, all the thoughts you will never have, and all the thoughts you will have. because of this, technically speaking, prayer is obsolete and isn't necessary. that being said, things like prayer do make God happy. God likes it when you pray even though God already knows what you are going to pray. it's just a nice thing on our part, a small effort as if to say that we are doing this nice little thing for God because we know it pleases God. I hope this answers your question.

I'm going to make a nice prayer now right here.

please God almighty the one and only God the most wise and the most powerful who is our God and our heaven, hear my prayer. thank you for allowing 8chan to exist so that we imperfect human beings who are secretly the greatest philosophers of our time and yet rejects of an even more imperfect society could be allowed to converge here and discuss what need be discussed with true freedom of speech by your will. thank you God for sending your voice to us so that we may have a positive and good effect on the world. Amen.

>many religions are designed to get in ePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>human beings are imperfect, and everything they make, say, do, and so on is imperfect, including bible, scripture, stories, any religious texts, books, teachings, and so on. some things in life like a sturdy house are well built and good quality but nothing we do is perfect by the standards of God.

>the word of God doesn't come from the bible. everything here is a false idol including the bible, money, statues, kings, and so on.

Exodus 20

>"You shall have no other gods before Me."You shall not make for yourself an idol, or any likeness of what is in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the water under the earth."

Deuteronomy 5

>You shall have no other gods before Me. You shall not make for yourself an idol, or any likeness of what is in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the water under the earth.

>the word of God only comes straight from God.

>what all imperfect human beings are searching for is not temporary, or lasting, but rather eternal peace and and happiness and love and freedom. this can only be reached through not obtaining, grasping, or driving yourself or others crazy, but rather being gifted perfection by God.

>perfection is not a human definition. any idea of perfection that human beings have is imperfect. God is the sole true understander and beholder of perfection. God is perfect, and only God can grant perfection. (being let into heaven to become better)

different kinds of responses I got to my thread and my answers for them

>If you're smart enough to figure any of that out you should also be smart enough to realize that anyone else as smart would havPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>But by attacking religion you are attacking the only thing which has protected humanity in history and you are attacking the very reason humans are allowed to exist!

>If you maintain your anti-religious views you are forfeiting your right to exist as a human on this plane and will face the karmic consequences of such acts!

>Religion did a great job of protecting humanity, becase humanity still exists! If there had been no religion you wouldn't be online typing that, because you would be extinct!

Saying that religion did a great job of protecting humanity is like saying that hardcore illegal street drugs did a great job of making many people feel better because humanity still exists. Lets just totally disregard how many lives have been destroyed by hardcore illegal street drugs (and the gang wars, drug wars, and actual wars it's created) as well as religion and the wars it's created right? Just because something bad existed and posed a challenge to humanity- and humanity survived doesn't mean that it was entirely beneficial or even good at all. because of religion, people were tortured in dungeons because their beliefs didn't line up with the beliefs of those who were torturing them.

Religion has been one of the biggest methods by which human beings have manipulated and controlled each other as well as one of the biggest reasons for almost every single war that has ever been fought up until and including modern history. Protecting humanity? Religion is a scam. It's a business just like war. "Hey be very afraid so give your church all this money because god needs your money and he loves you but you're going to hell forever so no killing, meanwhile go kill all these people because they don't believe what you believe! also, do whatever we say or god will be very upset with you!"

>"Hey let me in!, Who is it? It's jesus let me in! Why? Because I need to protect you! From what? FROM WHAT I'M GOING TO DO TO YOU IF YOU DON'T LET ME IN!"

Religion is a cucked up scam that distances people from God. why worship an impefect human created system when I can just worship God directly?

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Very similar example can be found in first six star wars movies by george lucas.

>Jedi rules forbid attachment (but promotes compassion) (as they wage wars for political/religious bullshit, and ignore the cries for help from others who are in need like anakins dying mother)

So love isn't forbidden since compassion is like universal love as anakin explains in episode 2 I believe. This attatchment isn't about love, it's just any attachment at all. Some of the crystal chakra anons say similar things sometimes as an example. (meh…)

>All Jedi are ignorant to the fact that they are all very attached to the Jedi Order

This is a huge problem because they start to think the way that brainwashed liberals or lazy burnt out conservatives do (Plenty of offense intended, but in good will. Rediscover your roots) Liberals in the old fashioned sense wanted more freedom for good reasons. Conservatives in the old fashioned sense want to preserve or conserve and protect what freedom already exists. our founding fathers of our country USA were a special mix of old fashioned liberal and conservative in the same body, per each individual. In 2019, Liberals run wild demanding the destruction of freedom and Conservatives are lazy sleeping hippos that don't conserve anything. Both suffer from an immense lack of Self Awareness. The reason the USA was successful was that people had a balance of the right types of liberal and conservative thought with a very high amount of self awareness… for their time, yea nothing is perfect, I know. I'm not making a force balance argument here. I think that the sith, jedi, grey, are all BS. You can have any powers and use any color light saber but how you use them is what makes you good or bad. Titles are just a BS mask.

Similarly, different religions make a serious effort to warn their believers or readers to avoid intentionally or accidentally worshipping false gods or false idols but fail to properly warn anyone against falling victim to considering the religion and its books and symbolism as idols as gods. At the end of every religion, people forget about the god that is mentioned in its pages, and they bend over and bow down and woPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Woo! That was difficult, but there you go. Now people can read it again. No thanks to mewch!

>>131784

>take a look at current Russian parapsychology for the state of the art.

Links?

I have a book on Czech Parapsychology.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_vj5CXiY8s&list=PLGtvOOumQPkkxilmBymRXxOOMKCFdCYyx

>>131900

You seem like a brainwashed /pol/tard

>>131920

<nothing's stopping you from starting a completely separate board

>hurr durr you're defending /fringe/

>>131920

His first book was in 1932. So Israel Regardie is still in. As is Manly P. Hall and some others.

There's always >>>/occult/

>>131926

implying

>>131663

I think it depends, but usually these rituals aren't just written willy-nilly. Afaik you channel information for the ritual via invocation or possession. Additionally the involved entities tend to enchant the chants and spells and infuse them with their essence so as to drastically highten the potency of said spells. According to some occultists it is the specific words in their order that get enchanted for greater effect, which is why some claim that translating them is not advised.

However! Intention always matters much more than the thing being picture-perfect. If you feel the spells working just as much in your native tongue, then translate them. I'd be interested to hear about possible differences.

>>131665

Oh. Interesting.

>>131667

Disregard this post then. I haven't ever tried translating any rituals.

>do what works

Nothing more to add.

Please do experiment and report your findings, I would be delighted.

>>131668

Will do friend.

Thank you all for all the help, in the following days I'll prepare myself for the ritual, in the mean time I'll read the Modern Angelic Grimoire by Opus and check the wordpress page anon mentioned. Have a good one everyone!

>>131656

95% of this mega is trash

>>131656

>>131695

You ain't wrong there lmao

>>131724

Helps weed out the undeserving. Most every occult book I've read is at least half bullshit conjecture by the author anyway. Fucking with mundanes here is a drop in the bucket.

>>130732

Why are you posting these shill images that point to a website that immediately redirects to a shady url that would probably install a virus on my computer if I didn't have a script blocker?

And by the way it's pitiful to pretend that you can block curses with the impotent new age hippy bullshit you're pushing. If you're attacked and don't immediately set to completely and utterly destroying your attacker, you're completely at their mercy.

Also if you weren't such a pitiful whelp afraid of metaphysically asserting your dominance over others you wouldn't have to resort to shilling in order to feed yourself. Which ironically is just a cruder, more ineffective form of psychic manipulation.

>>131729

>>131725

do you have any more information on such shilling as you speak of?

not sure if you're trying to make valid points or just be an edge-l0rd but if you are trying to make valid points…i would like to know more

>>131799

Information on shilling? He's been posting his ms paint video course ads all over the board, not sure what other information you need.

>>131729

>Which ironically is just a cruder, more ineffective form of psychic manipulation

Exactly. He’s not only trying to manipulate people into his believe system, but on top of that he’s doing it like a coward.