/liberty/ - Liberty

>>105728

julay.world/liberty was the biggest but they had a big purge

That board was migrated to hoppe.sama but they had technical problems

The same board migrated to 8chan.moe/liberty

For whatever reason that group does not like 8kun. There's also decidedly more anime and larp posting.

There's also 9chan.tw/libertarian

>>101341

society pushed into your mind suicide is bad, but it isn't. the only reason suicide is actively fought against is because when someone kills himself, system doesn't have control over him anymore

also as stated, laws preventing suicide could be always twisted and abused because you cannot define exact state when person is doing harmful action to kill themselves and when not. smoking could be banned, because you're trying to kill yourself, same goes with unhealthy food, sports etc.

>>101347

>So to sum up, you'd stand by and allow your own family or friends to kill themselves

I would not violate their right of self-ownership to stop them.

>you think children "who could be described as individuals" don't have to listen to their parents

That is not what I said. Saying that one possesses their own body does not mean that they don't "have to" listen to anybody. Though I don't know what you mean by "have to".

>>101347

not the guy you're replying to but yes, it is their decision and although I love them, I can't forcibly hold them here knowing they're suffering, that would be selfish

Thanks for the screencaps guys. Its going to be a lot of help.

Americans think living in a police state is a victory.

>>98154

The people of Venezuela

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2pjEYBhJSo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1zdePe-yuQ

Maduro

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWCVMPTkPeA

Madurocucks are the absolute most retarded people on earth

>>98154

fug i need to settle there to lose weight

The elites don't need you.

All the infrastructure has been built and the globalists will soon have robots.

Patriots must be obsessive about trying to save liberty now.

Brainstorm.

The hour is late.

Do you know anyone who works for the government who can be convinced to quit?

Do you know any reporters who would write stories about freedom?

Can you sponsor billboards or pass out flyers promoting freedom?

Can you make a freedom website?

Could you make songs, movies, or art about liberty?

>>99863

companies never change their prices. the average company changes their prices once a year

>>99864

>the average company changes their prices once a year

source?

>>99692

>I'm not a pedophile, so I'd prefer to not browse a board that has CP.

4chan.

>>99885

Worthless textbooks written by Paul Krugman.

Is there much difference between the elites who are destroying the US with wars, debt, and tyranny and the Americans who accept the wars, debt, and police state?

>>98054

I don't care if I survive the "fallout dream" so long as the statist cucks don't outlive me.

>>98066

Except they will. People walk all over you now that there are police and laws, imagine when there is not.

>>101457

the only people i've had walk all over me are cops and prison guards, i fail to see your point

Everything is illegal, everyone is a criminal, everyone is under surveillance 24/7, and no one cares.

Living in a police state means that you must live in dread of being arrested. You can't help feeling hopeless.

>>100799

janusz korwin-mikke

>>100786

Anything by Robert Conquest or Solzhenitsyin, Rudolph Rummel, any literature on the Khmer Rouge, Yang Jishengs Tombstone, the political treatises of Erik von Kuehnelt-Leddihn, Pictures of the Socialistic Commonwealth, and Matthew Whites Atrocitology. Those come to my mind right now.

>>100811

Never thought I'd saw razorfist get mentioned here but his video was pretty good.

Americans scream toothpicks will never be outlawed because the price of building more prisons is too expensive, but did the costs of jails stop lawmakers from banning straws?

Auchwitch was a jewish death camp where jews raped and murdered palestinians.

>>100980

go home you are drunk

Americans say that living in a police state today is better than having freedom that might lead to tyranny.

What are you talking about, stammerman lost that debate. Talking about economics has not swayed a crowd in ever, peterson stuck to emotional appeals which actually work.

>>101532

Peterson clearly won the debate about the actual topic though

Americans scream globalism is wonderful because there would be free trade, no borders, and no wars, but actually globalism means that the world would be run by a few elites and you couldn't escape high taxes or draconian laws.

>>100784

The link goes nowhere OP

>>101153

Can't say I've tested the link but you should try using the onion router, as that's what it's meant for. That is unless you tried that and it just didn't work out, in which case wew lads.

>>101154

damn, im glad you explained what tor meant to people here.

Americans think living in a socialist police state is normal, but freedom is not some textbook theory.

There are still some Americans alive today who will tell you that freedom is better.

>>100465

From your link:

>What Mises identified was that private ownership of the means of production existed in name only under the Nazis and that the actual substance of ownership of the means of production resided in the German government. For it was the German government and not the nominal private owners that exercised all of the substantive powers of ownership: it, not the nominal private owners, decided what was to be produced, in what quantity, by what methods, and to whom it was to be distributed, as well as what prices would be charged and what wages would be paid, and what dividends or other income the nominal private owners would be permitted to receive. The position of the alleged private owners, Mises showed, was reduced essentially to that of government pensioners.

Very good points, gold star for the memes as well lol.

The counterpoints are that Otto Strasser got kicked out at some point and the Nazi Party became "anti-socialist", but in reality that really just means it became more totalitarian.

I concede, sir :)

That being said, they're still fucking fascists as well in my book,they really take the "best of both worlds" of the left-right poltical spectrum it seems.

>>99983

<it also does not help the Zionist agenda at all

It doesn't harm it either, in way it could actually help because it would make the economy more prosper and stable.

>>100469

>The counterpoints are that Otto Strasser got kicked out at some point and the Nazi Party became "anti-socialist"

What about Hitler himself? he frequently praised Stalin for his central-planning efforts, and some crazy regulatory shit happened under his economy.

The destruction of the US is completely planned and scripted.

Doesn't the fact that the 2000 page Patriot Act was written and passed immediately after 9/11 seem odd?

Doesn't the fact that all the governments in the world were immediately prepared for the virus with masks, thermometers, checkpoints, curfews, border closures, house arrests, and bailouts make you wonder?

Americans think that they are rebels because they are immoral and have tattoos, but maybe the elites want Americans to be immoral since immoral people are easier to blackmail and control.

>>100211

yeah why can't you just completely cut welfare and Medicare?

>>100213

This is my issue with ALL of these fucking budget calculators (ESPECIALLY >>100206 , you niggerfaggot). You can't line item by department, you have to do only the options the thinktank who made it will let you do.

In this case, if you read the popup, they explain their asinine reasoning.

>>100207

I'm not autistic enough to adjust the other settings as it would take too long.

Americans used to think hippies were lazy fruits for dropping out during the Vietnam War, but maybe the hippies had the right idea after all.

If you can't change a corrupt system, why be a part of it?

The elites encourage the 99% to be immoral, but anyone who dares to criticize the ruling class is attacked for being immoral.

>>100721

He's saying that's irrelevant because it's unenforceable. At that point it's too late to get your 10 McBitcoins. You may say "No, because they have goons" but at that point nothing matters because goons.

>>100775

so if i rent someone a bike and he agreed to give it back to me the next day then it is unenforceable so irrelevant and the bike is his?

>>100776

That is a breach of contract which results in theft, and is therefore enforceable. You would have a right to your bike back, and could bring this claim to court. What you can't do is say, "I sell you this bike, but if you paint it red I will take it back" in a contract and expect enforcement, because no theft has occurred.

The USA is a bankrupt warmongering police state, but nothing will change because Americans think everything is just fine.

>>104063

Like the other guy said, without the Civil Rights Act and other nonsense getting in the way of justice McDonald's would be culpable for every action taken by their pet niggers. Which brings us into the question as to why McDonald's would even want to Airbus in Somalians anyways. There's no Section 8 housing to stick them in, no one in respectable neighborhoods would voluntarily rent to a nigger, and even if they did the niggers couldn't afford the rent. Since whatever slum apartments you build for your niggers have to be far away from the civilized neighborhoods, and the roadowners won't allow someone who can't read the roadsigns to drive on their road, you're going to have to arrange transportation for them as well. To make sure they don't escape from the slum and start terrorizing the countryside, McDonald's is going to have to hire security as well. "Cheap" labor is only cheap when the taxpayer is subsidizing all of the implicit costs of dealing with cheap labor. Without that subsidy, there's nothing profitable in it.

>>103965

> We've already established that there's no such thing as public access

If no such public access exists, then no one would be able to homestead the encircled land except Owner A.

> Excuse me sir, but we have decreed that this is a public thoroughfare and you must allow this individual to pass.

Ignoring your reduction ad absurdum about shooting dogs, where is the NAP violation? Where is the initiation of force?

> Owner A owns the route

He never legitimately owned it since he never claimed the encircled property. If he homesteaded the route after the encircled land becomes owned, then yes he would own it. But as it is in continuous and in current use by Owner B, Owner A cannot claim it until Owner A abandons it.

> This is the same principle under which a landlord may evict his tenants at any time, for any reason, from any motivation.

This is not even a relevant analogy. Tenants are bound to a contract with their landlord for use of a landlords property. No such contract exists (physical or implied) for someone seeking to claim that unowned encircled land.

>>105019

>then no one would be able to homestead the encircled land except Owner A.

Then fine, let's say no one would be able to homestead it except owner A. I was never that attached to Block's argument anyways, if anything the idea that you can encircle something without homesteading it contradicts Hoppe's emborderment principle. So, we'll throw Block's exception out, and rule that Owner A has homesteaded the encircled land by virtue of encircling it, as that's what emborderment theory implies.

>not knowing about dogshooting

Lurkmoar.

>Where is the initiation of force?

PROPERTY BEING USED WITHOUT CONSENT YOU DOUBLENIGGER, THAT'S WHERE

>>105021

>Then fine, let's say no one would be able to homestead it except owner A.

Now apply this to a cabal of property owners encircling a large tract of unowned land.

>Lurkmoar.

Not an argument.

>PROPERTY BEING USED WITHOUT CONSENT

Right-of-way and freedom-to-roam are long-established common law rights and you consented to them by contractually engaging in commerce with these societies (anarchic and polycentric societies I might add). You could ignore common law but may have to pay compensation or be ostracized by these societies.

One thing worse than living in a police state is finding out that no one cares.

https://dis.tinychan.net/lounge/

>>103311

Well the last thing we'd want to do is offend the subhumans.

>>103320

Did he become a tranny?

Commies say Libertarians want everyone to live in the Stone Age, but Libertarians aren't the ones who want to make everything illegal.

There's a set of two duplicate threads in the catalog right now; initially there were three. The only reason I can think of that the second duplicate wasn't deleted along with the third is that the second had one reply to it at the time of the third's deletion. I'm beginning to believe with increasing conviction that we don't actually have a BO, but a script programmed to perform certain BO activities.

>>101679

But that's a normal fetish, anon, it's not severe.

>>101514

Shitposting was always just that—shit.

>>101688

But everyone is retarded, including myself

Does anyone get the feeling that the Uniparty has been bought off by the elites?