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Ya'll need Mises.

File: 862e5e987895cb1⋯.jpg (46.05 KB,640x545,128:109,ronpaul.jpg)

 No.105511 [Open Thread]

Welcome to /liberty/, your board for libertarian discussion.

Now on 8kun!

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 No.105730

>>105728

julay.world/liberty was the biggest but they had a big purge

That board was migrated to hoppe.sama but they had technical problems

The same board migrated to 8chan.moe/liberty

For whatever reason that group does not like 8kun. There's also decidedly more anime and larp posting.

There's also 9chan.tw/libertarian

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 No.102980 [Open Thread]

What do you think about democracy?

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 No.103045

"democracy isnt perfect but we never had to build a wall to keep our people from leaving"

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 No.103048

>>103045

Cattle doesn't try to flee when it's already tamed

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 No.103068

>>103045

People don't leave because the relatively free markets have made them wealthy and comfortable, not because of any ideological benefit from democracy. Why do you think migrants from third world shitholes are so eager to come to Western countries, so they can vote? Of course not, they just want the gibs.

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 No.103113

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>>103068

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 No.105978

Who wants to carry a NSA tracking device around?

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File: 5361aa65f5e87a1⋯.jpg (424.93 KB,1550x864,775:432,yang2020.jpg)

 No.99844 [Open Thread]

Have any of you read some of the policy proposals coming from the Democratic candidates for 2020? I mean, Sanders is already known to be a socialist, but Yang, holy fucking shit. This stuff reads like dystopian nightmare fuel, and I'm not even touching the UBI stuff. I really encourage you guys to read this stuff, it's fucking insane. I mean, I'm an autistic weeb lolbertarian, and I think this guy has out-autismed ME for fucks sake.

https://www.yang2020.com/policies/human-capitalism/

>In order to spur development, the government should issue a new currency – the Digital Social Credit – which can be converted into dollars and used to reward people and organizations who drive significant social value. This new currency would allow people to measure the amount of good that they have done through various programs and actions.

>Imagine an AI life coach with the voice of Oprah or Tom Hanks trying to help parents stay together or raise kids. Or a new Legion of Builders and Destroyers that install millions of solar panels across the country, upgrade our infrastructure and remove derelict buildings while also employing tens of thousands of workers. Or a digital personalized education subscription that is constantly giving you new material and grouping you with a few other people who are studying the same thing. Or a wearable device that monitors your vital signs and sends data to your doctor while recommending occasional behavior changes. Or voting securely in your local elections via your smartphone without any worry of fraud.

https://www.yang2020.com/policies/free-marriage-counseling/

I have no comment on this.

https://www.yang2020.com/policies/modern-time-banking/

>As President, I will…

> Create a new time banking app to track points awarded and traded for helping your community and neighbors

> Donate aPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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 No.101176

Where programs from the past this insane or is it a new and scary tendency?

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 No.101214

>>101176

I don't know. I mean, there are plenty of insane things in history, though. Like that time Caligula went to war with Poseidon.

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 No.101215

>>101176

Some socialist shit in the 20th century got pretty bad, but this insane level of government intervention is a comparatively new idea historically. The state didn't even exist as we know it until the 1600s, and even after that rulers were relatively hands-off compared to contemporary ones.

>>101214

> I mean, there are plenty of insane things in history, though. Like that time Caligula went to war with Poseidon.

That's largely an ahistorical legend, created by successive mistranslations. The original order was to tear down huts on the coast of Britain, which got misinterpreted as collecting seashells as trophies, due to the similarity in the word for seashell and the slang for the legion's portable huts. Then someone took collecting seashells as trophies to mean that Caligula was collecting war trophies from Neptune.

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 No.101220

File: 8107cab0284b0f9⋯.mp4 (2.44 MB,480x360,4:3,Yang2020.mp4)

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 No.105977

Americans think that they are rebels because they are immoral and have tattoos, but maybe the elites want Americans to be immoral since immoral people are easier to blackmail and control.

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 No.99934 [Open Thread]

after studying economic history I can see that a central bank is needed. When Andrew Jackson ended the central bank and implemented a "hard money" policy he caused a huge depression.

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 No.99948

>>99944

in the states there's no law saying you can't use anything else for a voluntary exchange.

Milton Friedman even had this critique of Hayek's writings on monetary policy

>Hayek's writings of the 1970s on monetary reform. Noting Hayek's vigorous defense of "invisible hand" evolution that Hayek claimed has created better economic institutions than could be created by rational design, Friedman pointed out the irony that Hayek was then proposing to replace the monetary system thus created with a deliberate construct of his own design. Moreover, Friedman noted, there is nothing in current law to prevent voluntary bilateral exchange via any medium freely accepted by two parties.

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 No.99949

>>99948

>nothing in current law to prevent voluntary bilateral exchange via any medium freely accepted by two parties.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberty_dollar_%28private_currency%29#Legal_issues

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 No.99951

>>99949

Also, legal tender laws and capital gains taxes against commodities (like gold/silver) is the standard argument taken, but I wanted to show a concrete case of how there definitely is legal issues. Similar issues happened to a private currency in Florida (Cruz, I believe was his name), and to a few online gold banks that used to be operating ten or twenty years ago. There are plenty of legal issues. The U.S. government does NOT want these to start up.

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 No.99959

>>99944

>but in the constitution I would prohibit the State from making people use the notes issued by the central bank/government.

And as we all know, no government would ever dare overstep the limits placed on them by their constitution (or worse yet, ignore the constitution entirely). It's literally impossible for such a thing to happen.

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 No.105976

Americans think that the US is a free and peaceful country with a balanced budget.

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 No.98856 [Open Thread]

where does /liberty/ stand on individualism and collectivism?

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 No.100010

>>98864

I think this explains it the best.

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 No.100011

>>99166

>the chan

Oh shit anons, he speaks for the chan!

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 No.100017

>>100005

Value doesn't exist in a vacuum. Both have different values in different contexts.

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 No.100027

>>100017

Well, I get what you mean, I guess the problem arises when it's not voluntary, which seems to be the case more often than not with collectivism.

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 No.105975

Americans are so enslaved now that Americans don't care if the CIA tortures, but Americans lose their minds if the media reports the story.

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 No.99573 [Open Thread]

I think one of the limits to liberty is believing in philosophical systems that run contrary to liberty.

If you, as a libertarian, want to invite muslims into your country… you are fucking retarded and probably not a libertarian.

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 No.99813

>>99573

It’s a mix of appeal to hypocrisy and the Chinese robber fallacy.

Terrorism is bad regardless of who does it. Muh Christians or muh Muslims doesn’t matter that much because while there may be 463 attacks by Muslims, there’s still around a billion and a half Muslims who aren’t terrorists.

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 No.99831

>>99778

Beliefs "core to your identity" can and do change as well. People don't spring fully-formed commies from the womb, they need years of molding in the public schools before their worldviews shift.

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 No.99854

>>99813

The muslim problem is similar to the jew problem; most don't actually do the dirty work but they don't speak against it either, and some actually encourage it, to the delight of the actual perpetrators of the crimes, who can enjoy from that tribal protection and claim to be a victim when the inevitable backlash happens. You can't say they're outright criminals but you also can't say they're totally innocent either. Of course it doesn't justify some random shooting but you can see why someone would be baited into doing that assuming it wasn't just a false flag which it probably was

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 No.99862

>>99854

what dont jews speak against?

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 No.105974

One thing worse than living in a police state is finding out that no one cares.

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File: 0be2687d97b4be6⋯.jpg (612.04 KB,826x1280,413:640,mises.jpg)

 No.100283 [Open Thread]

where does this quote come from

>Only 24% of people who reported sexual fantasies about children also reported sexual contact with children. (This number is not mentioned in the study, but can be easily calculated using the data in Table 1: (38+49)/358.)

?

i saved the quote but i should have saved whole webpage

the webpage was linked in /hebe/ or/and /phile/

im posting in in this board for i think this board is visited by /hebe/ and/or /phile/ anons

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 No.100494

>>100287

im a scientist

not a pedo

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 No.100502

>>100494

>im a scientist who wants to rape kids

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 No.100693

>>100502

>for science.jpg

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 No.100706

>>100502

kys

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 No.105973

Do the elites plan to wall off cities so that no one can escape?

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File: 546a1032e4193c0⋯.png (31.45 KB,180x198,10:11,rememberanime.png)

 No.100759 [Open Thread]

In the late 50s, Sweden used to be very socialistic. Their economy was stagnant, regulations were at a much higher level than today, and taxes and regulations looked like they were going to keep increasing. Intellectually, the scene looked even more dire. The socialist-lite Swedish economist Gunnar-Myrdal had recently won the Nobel prize in economics, and there seemed to be no intellectual light at the end of the tunnel for a more liberal economic theory to be plausible in Sweden.

But then, abruptly, things changed coursed. Sweden deregulated at a massive rate. The size and scope of the government decreased dramatically. Now Sweden is among the top ten in its economic freedom score.

What happened? How did libertarianism win in Sweden?

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 No.100791

>>100762

>huge social safety net

wasn't the pension system partially privatized?

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 No.100793

File: 476fcc0332de15a⋯.png (547.86 KB,800x461,800:461,comfy15.png)

>>100785

Uh, yeah, that's already implicit in OP's question. He's asking WHY Sweden became liberal.

>>100783

This is interesting, great post.

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 No.100795

>>100793

the video is all about Swedens history of liberalism

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 No.100797

>>100795

Sorry, I didn't even notice the video.

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 No.105972

Is Rand Paul the only American who still cares about freedom?

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 No.98037 [Open Thread]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSSczrebJWE

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 No.98154

He's a 100+kg military dictator in a country where the average weight is 71kg.

Venezuela is Korea tier, which is what every communist/socialist/communalist society turns into.

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 No.98162

File: cad338b2c3b340c⋯.jpg (48.88 KB,720x709,720:709,Commies and economics.jpg)

>>98153

>Cuban migration to the US has pretty much stopped since Cuba's standard of living met a parity with the US some years ago

Things that never happened for 500$ Alex! Seriously, what fucking fantasy are you living in, you delusional retard? There's nothing that supports that notion, nothing even close. And even where they supposedly do have something comparable (ie: it was a meme for a while that they had really good healthcare) one look under the hood proves otherwise.

>And yes obviously because of Venezuelas issues people will migrate abroad but this is not different then any other third world state

Amazing! It's almost like Socialism and government interference turned one of the richest Latin American countries into one of the poorest in the fucking world! I wonder if it's the same with most of these third world countries… What do you know! it is.

> High taxes aren't capitalist

They're not, you fucking idiot. High taxes (let alone any taxes at all) are an interference with the market and guess what that means? It's a problem of interference with capitalism by the state, not a problem OF capitalism. Wow! it's almost like (as per everything else you say) you don't actually have a fucking clue about what you're talking about! Gee golly whiz! Kill yourself. Better yet, go ahead and tell me next about how expropriation is also a problem of capitalism. Dumb fuck.

>Hyper-inflation can't occur under capitalistm

Gee, if there was a market for money, it's almost like people could opt to choose another currency, oh wait there isn't one in Guatemala. Damn, t's almost like they have a central bank… What a shame.

>It maintains a capitalist economy and has been under a right-wing capitalist goverment for decades at the behest of the US

> governmePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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 No.101703

>>98154

The people of Venezuela

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2pjEYBhJSo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1zdePe-yuQ

Maduro

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWCVMPTkPeA

Madurocucks are the absolute most retarded people on earth

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 No.101721

>>98154

fug i need to settle there to lose weight

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 No.105971

The elites don't need you.

All the infrastructure has been built and the globalists will soon have robots.

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 No.100404 [Open Thread]

/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL

This thread is for discussion of property rights, self-determination, natural order, right-libertarianism and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Left-Libertarians, Cosmopolitan freaks, Open borders cucks and other assorted libertine degenerates need to fuck off.

>LIBERTARIANISM DOES NOT MEAN OPEN BORDERS, MORAL DEGRADATION, HYPER-INDIVIDUALISM OR LAWLESS CHAOS. /lrg/ IS THE A STAND AGAINST THE LEFT-LIBERTARIAN AND ANTI-MORAL LIBERTARIAN MENACE, DON'T COME HERE PREACHING THAT GARBAGE AND DONT ASSUME WE SUPPORT THOSE LOSERS.

Questions are welcome, however many are repeated often. We advise you research the basics before asking.

THREAD RESOURCES:

>Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8

>Discord & Book Club: sXwfD5K

RECOMMENDED MATERIAL:

>Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard)

https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state

>For a New Liberty (Murray Rothbard)

https://mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto

>Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf

>Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads

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 No.100493

File: f80d3310121b3be⋯.jpg (33.91 KB,640x640,1:1,26868838_1698392423558908_….jpg)

Based.

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 No.100495

>>100404

so i must believe in natural rights to post here?

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 No.100498

>>100404

>making a general on a board this slow

Are you retarded?

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 No.100821

>>>>>>>>>>/pol/

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 No.105970

Americans scream that the USA is a free and peaceful country with a balanced budget and then turn around and say that they never said that.

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 No.100737 [Open Thread]

the tldr is failed economic theories and models.

then libs posting somalia memes

then angry libertarians butchering classical liberal talking points in defence angrily.

thats how libertarian ism works

do yourself a favour red noam chomsky and don't pay mind to conservative economic theories they are all really fucking dumb.

if you like freedom become a normal anarchist/syndicalist and don't play in the kiddy pool of libertarianism to long my best advice

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 No.100750

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>>100745

Because deep down, they're aware there's no such thing.

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 No.100758

he tldr is failed economic theories and models.

then libs posting somalia memes

then angry libertarians butchering classical liberal talking points in defence angrily.

thats how libertarian ism works

do yourself a favour red noam chomsky and don't pay mind to conservative economic theories they are all really fucking dumb.

if you like freedom become a normal anarchist/syndicalist and don't play in the kiddy pool of libertarianism to long my best advice

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 No.100763

File: d8123533068a31e⋯.webm (10.72 MB,569x320,569:320,ROSS - Take the Anus.webm)

>>100758

wow very cool

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 No.100770

the tldr is failed economic theories and models.

then libs posting somalia memes

then angry libertarians butchering classical liberal talking points in defence angrily.

thats how libertarian ism works

do yourself a favour red noam chomsky and don't pay mind to conservative economic theories they are all really fucking dumb.

if you like freedom become a normal anarchist/syndicalist and don't play in the kiddy pool of libertarianism to long my best advice

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 No.105969

If you said that the government was wiretapping your phone in 1999, everybody would have called you a nutjob.

Now if you say that the government is wiretapping your phone, no one cares.

How can Americans sleep at night now or look in a mirror without feeling disgusted and ashamed?

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 No.101156 [Open Thread]

how will people solve 5G problem in ancap? is sending 5G radiation into someone's property a violation of NAP? will in ancap people defend their properties with counter-radiation or some kind of a shield? okay G5 radiation is (probably) not unhealthy but in ancap we will have many crazy tinfoilhat people i hope

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 No.101523

Related Question: Can the state track you if you interfere with state use-only bandwidth?

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 No.101526

>>101523

The state can kill you with telepathically implanted hypnotic suggestions if they wanted to.

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 No.101553

>>101526

prove

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 No.105931

Is Rand Paul the only American who still cares about freedom?

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 No.105968

Americans scream that there must be a new law that outlaws punching firefighters, but isn't assault already illegal?

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 No.103156 [Open Thread]

Thoughts?

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 No.103173

>>103167

OP is a rentier, not a welfare queen not a NEET leech.

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 No.103177

>>103156

Fagbook libertarian niggers who start threads with "thoughts?" Instead of stating their opinions or admitting they support the thing they posted deserve the rope. That's my thoughts.

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 No.103183

>>103177

Why would you say that? I am genuinely curious. :^)

Fuck the phrase "I am genuinely curious"/"I am curious." If you really were curious, you wouldn't need to declare it.

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 No.103189

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 No.105967

One wonders if Snowden regrets throwing away his life to warn ungrateful Americans about unconstitutional NSA wire-tapping.

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 No.101892 [Open Thread]

After a couple of months of lurking this forum and reading pretty much every thread I came to the conclusion that many of you (fortunately not the majority) are basically white supremacists who don't like to pay taxes, not even to help the poor white people.

Even Austin Petersen brings up the fact that many white supremacists use Libertarianism as a cover for their racist beliefs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAKkv8OS0MY

The Hoppe memes betray your authoritarianism. Why do you fascist faggots who want to ban abortion, drugs, workers rights and homosexuality call yourselves libertarians? Makes no sense.

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 No.101927

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>>101892

>basically white supremacists who don't like to pay taxes, not even to help the poor white people

Yes. And?

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 No.101928

File: 1a23b797188a741⋯.jpg (55.62 KB,600x752,75:94,Austin Petersen being a mo….jpg)

>>101892

>Even Austin Petersen

>Even

Austin Petersen is kind of a moron, a dick, and a soft-libertarian. He's not an authority.

>Why do you fascist faggots who want to ban abortion, drugs, workers rights and homosexuality call yourselves libertarians? Makes no sense.

>abortion

Because it's the murder of a human being, and hence against the NAP?

>drugs

I don't want to ban drugs. I think they are degenerate, but not that they should be cirminalized. That said, I also don't feel particularly sorry for drug dealers who get convicted, precisely because they are degenerates who couldn't care less abou thte liberty of others.

>workers rights

Excuse me? What special rights are workers supposed to possess? Yes, they can strike, but they are not entitled to continued payment or to not being terminated over it. They don't "deserve" a "living wage" just as I don't deserve an "adequate wage", and frankly, many of them can suck my dick for being egotistical assholes. Any of them care about how hard some small business owners work? Care about whether they get to see their family more than two hours a day? No, of course they don't. Workers aren't saints, they are out for their own advantage, and they are no more entitled to my respect than anyone else who cares only about his own hide. Not talking about all workers here. I have nothing against workers who aren't political - thankfully the majority of them - or who aren't egoists pretending to be altruistic.

>homosexuality

See above, what I said on drugs.

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 No.101930

>>101892

>worker's """""""rights""""""""

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 No.102143

>>101892

Wait a minute… It took you A COUPLE OF MONTHS to figure this out? … Low IQ indeed.

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 No.105966

Libertarians think that they should give up defending freedom because Americans hate liberty, but Libertarians should keep resisting tyranny for selfish reasons.

While the elites control the money, government, and media, the 99% have the numbers.

One Libertarian may not be able to resist being sent to the concentration camps, but one million people might.

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 No.101455 [Open Thread]

>ancucks thinking they will survive without their mommies

>ancucks thinking they will survive a week without laws to protect them from big mean fascist and commies hordes

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 No.101503

>>101471

>truth is bait

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 No.101522

>>101500

Well, it's true in a way. If you are being protected by one gang, you're being protected from another.

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 No.101528

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>>101503

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 No.101554

>>101522

You're not protected from statism though.

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 No.105965

Libertarians think that they should give up defending freedom because Americans hate liberty, but Libertarians should keep resisting tyranny for selfish reasons.

While the elites control the money, government, and media, the 99% have the numbers.

One Libertarian may not be able to resist being sent to the concentration camps, but one million people might.

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