/liberty/ - Liberty

>>101346

So to sum up, you'd stand by and allow your own family or friends to kill themselves and you think children "who could be described as individuals" don't have to listen to their parents, is that about right?

>>101341

society pushed into your mind suicide is bad, but it isn't. the only reason suicide is actively fought against is because when someone kills himself, system doesn't have control over him anymore

also as stated, laws preventing suicide could be always twisted and abused because you cannot define exact state when person is doing harmful action to kill themselves and when not. smoking could be banned, because you're trying to kill yourself, same goes with unhealthy food, sports etc.

>>101347

>So to sum up, you'd stand by and allow your own family or friends to kill themselves

I would not violate their right of self-ownership to stop them.

>you think children "who could be described as individuals" don't have to listen to their parents

That is not what I said. Saying that one possesses their own body does not mean that they don't "have to" listen to anybody. Though I don't know what you mean by "have to".

>>101347

not the guy you're replying to but yes, it is their decision and although I love them, I can't forcibly hold them here knowing they're suffering, that would be selfish

Thanks for the screencaps guys. Its going to be a lot of help.

>>91344

pass on every opportunity to expand while other power maneuver themselves into superior positions

then ask your citizen if they would voluntarily stop for communist subversion destroying your culture and society

>>101244

Are capitalists hyper-exploitative or are they short-sighted and incapable of reacting to issues in real time? You boot-lickers really need to make up your mind.

>>101227

It worries me how libertarians are ignorant of how the State works. For all the hate we have for the State, I must say most of us are ignorant as fuck about how it works.

You faggots should really learn how the law and justice system works, then compare it to those of european countries, and then maybe you will stop shouting slogans like some deranged leftist and bring something useful to discussions and even your daily life.

>>95378

>cash-less currency, social credit system and universal income

That is the future of the western civilization after the debt usury racket nullifies the economy. And crypto is a test run, and will be outlawed once the official currency launches. This is why the west is getting violently destabilized, to prevent retaliation once the west realizes that the jews have stolen all their wealth and freedoms.

>>101237

Jesus.

>>95378

these ressources will be owned by someone. what central ownship will do is alignment. however there is nothing inherent about central ownership that causes the ressource to be used in a good way.

Make a cryptocurrency bank?

GOOD LUCK EBOLA-CHAN!

>>101206

>http

>>101230

https is really only necessary in websites with sensitive user input.

GOOD LUCK EBOLA-CHAN

>>101166

North Korea is democratic too, they have it in name

>>101166

Why shouldn't they? What you are seeing is the natural outcome of mass democracy being allowed to run amuck.

>>101166

for political gain.

why would they be honest?

In a computerized civilization, encryption is the fundamental building block of liberty.

— Julian Assange

>>101164

Well shieeeeet

So much for not using a VPN

>>95917

I don't. Only humans should have freedom, normalfags can't even make use of it.

>>101217

I agree with this sentiment. That's exactly why I advocate for infinite freedom. Normalfags will always find chains to bind them. The problem is when they find chains to bind you, too.

>>101217

> normalfags can't even make use of it.

because they are not pedos like you?

>>101250

wow you proved him right

>>101225

problem is that right now there is no way to get to infinite freedom. The sanest course of action is to understand how the State works and try to pilot it to get closer to freedom.

When you run out of arguments you just imagine socialism with robots

>>101239

>It's been a week and I haven't seen a new ultra-commie thread

That's a good thing, you dumb nigger.

>>101251

Even that would fail.

>>101142

>How does any of these neuanced policies help us other than putting more power in the hands of the state?

>You've already established a new state sales tax on Amazon stuff that increases costs of goods. All new taxes go on the shoulder of consumers.

I think OP is making fun of Yang's policies, not supporting them.

Where programs from the past this insane or is it a new and scary tendency?

>>101176

I don't know. I mean, there are plenty of insane things in history, though. Like that time Caligula went to war with Poseidon.

>>101176

Some socialist shit in the 20th century got pretty bad, but this insane level of government intervention is a comparatively new idea historically. The state didn't even exist as we know it until the 1600s, and even after that rulers were relatively hands-off compared to contemporary ones.

>>101214

> I mean, there are plenty of insane things in history, though. Like that time Caligula went to war with Poseidon.

That's largely an ahistorical legend, created by successive mistranslations. The original order was to tear down huts on the coast of Britain, which got misinterpreted as collecting seashells as trophies, due to the similarity in the word for seashell and the slang for the legion's portable huts. Then someone took collecting seashells as trophies to mean that Caligula was collecting war trophies from Neptune.

>>101201

Just glancing at the table of contents…

There's not very much surprising here. Members of different groups tend to act with an in-group preference towards that group. Different groups have different characteristics imparted onto them by biology. These aren't earth-shattering facts, and they have no unilateral implications where policy is concerned.

>>101134

Ayy thanks!

>>100784

The link goes nowhere OP

>>101153

Can't say I've tested the link but you should try using the onion router, as that's what it's meant for. That is unless you tried that and it just didn't work out, in which case wew lads.

>>101154

damn, im glad you explained what tor meant to people here.

>>101063

thx

>>101084

pic 1. Johnson's Great Socoiety beginning in 1964

pic 2. Termination of the Bretton Woods system in 1971, which leads to…

pic 3. Debt Bubble buoyed by the petrodollar

This is just a simplified model of events and there are many more causes and factors in play.

>>100949

>The gap between productivity and compensation is the largest it's been in 40 years

>This proves that compensation tracks productivity perfectly, and people are just getting paid in benefits instead of cash

>>101108

The graph is closer than the one in OP, suggesting that compensation has been much closer to productivity than is otherwise implied. The reason for the gap may be found in the fact that a large portion of nonwage compensation is state mandated–workers don't have the option to select a job which pays entirely in cash rather than benefits because such jobs have been legislated out of existence. Since every worker must receive part of his compensation as benefits that aren't perfectly substitutable with one another, every potential worker who wishes to quit one job in order to seek another, better-paying one faces switching costs–there's some uncertainty as to whether or not the benefits received at the new job will be better or worse than the ones in the current job, as one cannot wholly discern the quality of benefits before experiencing them. Further, one cannot accumulate benefits in savings the way cash can be, which means that there is no stockpile of benefits on which one can draw during periods of frictional unemployment the way you can with cash. All of these factors mean that being compensated with benefits rather than cash makes workers less flexible with their employment decisions, and thus much more wage-inelastic. This results in them being willing to accept a lower wage when the government mandates them to take a portion of payment in benefits rather than wages. And this increased inelasticity is the reason for the increasing gap between productivity and compensation.

>>101094

you're right, if I wasn't completely unsatisfied with my life I wouldn't even care about politics. After all I started caring only when I became unsatisfied.