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 No.16166 [Open Thread]

I've been a Messianic Jew / Christian for some time now. But the more I've worked through things the more disappointed I feel. Its almost like as soon as I explored my faith I was confronted at every corner. So, why do you believe what you do?

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 No.16726

File: f11054383abd4af⋯.gif (79.71 KB,267x512,267:512,MmmDeliciousForeskins.gif)

>>16725

>maybe they will stop being kikes if they stop being monotheist kikes

no

they are and always have been kikes. how many gods they worship will not change this. Pagan gods are a reflection of the archetypes idealized and appraised by the people who worship them. Mars was praised as the progenitor of Rome because he encapsulated all that the Romans idealized; honor, discipline, law, war and proudful strength. The Germans praised Odin as All-Father because he was the prime example of what it means to be German; an endless thirst for knowledge, the willingness to sacrifice everything, the determination to win against the enemy and the unleashing of the furious energy within.

Jews gave praises to a god that demanded little baby cocks to form a "covenant" to him. Before that, the Jews gave praises to a god that demanded little babies be sacrificed to him.

Nothing has changed. Religion does not determinate the characteristics of a race, rather the other way around.

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 No.16729

>>16725

Ehh, I don't think their kikery has anything to do with their crazy religion, it's not like it's only devout Judaists who act kikey but atheist/converted Jews don't, and it's not like the Jews we are dealing with are racially the same ones as those who live in Israel.

Their kikery is based on some other factors besides their religion, I think it's their unusually high IQ coupled with an outcast/gypsy mentality in whatever country they're in that's causing them to act the way they do. Any ethnic minority in a foreign country naturally hates the majority and bands together to form ethnic communities, Jews are the same, but what makes them so dangerous is that they are much smarter than niggers or spics who will at worst cause problems at the street-level.

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 No.16751

>>16721

That's great for them and all, but I'm not a blooded Jew.

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 No.16756

>>16751

You said you were a Messianic Jew, I understand now that was just a joke of sorts but most followers of Messianic Judaism are just kikes who happened to believe Jesus is the messiah, possibly as a theological justification for the state of Israel which jews are technically not allowed to inhabit according their scriptures until their messiah would arrive.

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 No.16760

>>16756

Yeah, it was sorta meant to mean I was indoctrinated into the weird jew-worship that Christendom had become.

I'm thankful to have gotten rid of it.

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 No.5013 [Open Thread][Last 50 Posts]

New Varg video, heathens

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 No.16750

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Varg Vikernes: A SUCCESS STORY

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 No.16758

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>I want YOU for an Adventure!

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 No.16797

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Why did Serbia 1999 happen?

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 No.16799

>Wrong password. Try refreshing the page or use the Go back button to fetch the right password.

Ah well it's on autosage anyways

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 No.18482

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Muh Prayers & Sacrifices

>.youtube.com/watch?v=7ecp5mNc5uM

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 No.16625 [Open Thread]

Why the fuck do all the "kindreds", especially in Midwestern USA, look like this? Filled with "pagans" who aren't even Norse descendants and all a part of The Asatru Cuckmmunity. Absolutely disgusting

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 No.16699

>>16667

>He's proud of his Nigger son-in-law

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 No.16702

File: f6252604412344e⋯.jpg (29.18 KB,375x500,3:4,TRANSGODDESS.jpg)

>tfw worshipping ancestors you don't have

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 No.16704

>>16697

>be american

>be 1/4 irish

>be 1/4 italian

>be 1/4 slavic

>be also 1/4 german

>I HAVE GERMAN ANCESTRY GUYS, I'M OFFICIALLY GERMAN 14/88 CHECK ME OUT

How do they explain this logic? If I'm also 1/32 German, can I deny all my other ancestors and just cherrypick the German one and claim to be German or what? Is race something you choose for yourself like in Skyrim? This weaboo-tier shit is offensive to everyone who's a real German imo.

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 No.16746

>>16704

Precisely. The way I see it, you should love your ancestors, all of them. But the culture you should adopt should reflect your father's, and his father's. It should be based off of familial lineage. I suppose if we want to go the Jew route Maternal is also okay. Then again, if you're not above the "51 percent" line you should just fuck off because at that state you're 1% of everything. Like, Heinz 57. Jews wet dream right there.

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 No.16747

>>16704

I mean, 1/4 is at least there. In America you have people with like 1/80th claiming to be full-blooded. But if its 1/4 I don't mind appreciating one lineage more than another, but you should still remember and look kind on all of them. That doesn't mean change your name to Dmitri Segreti Weidmann MacMillan

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 No.16732 [Open Thread]

Should us asatruar dedicate April Fools to Loki or would the rest of the pantheon consider revering him haram since he's such a shitlord that's always causing trouble for them?

Do you reckon Loki would appreciate april fools in the first place? Why or why not?

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 No.16735

>>16734

>I think Loki isn't evil

>conspired to get Baldr killed

yeah no

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 No.16738

Disney is a Jewish owned company run by pedophiles that use their position to groom young white girls and run sex slavery cults. I don't care that Frozen has white people and is Nordic, it is NOT redpilled, it is ridden with all kinds of anti-male, GIRL POWER and subtle lesbian propaganda shit. I don't care that Thor is about a Norse god, they made valkyries into black lesbians and made Heimdall (literally the white god and the father of races and civilizations) into a nigger, and they laugh about it. Also they've been trying to push transgender Thor for a while, they made Thor into a woman in the comic books (and not in the way Loki made him dress up like a woman in the Prose Edda, I mean a literal woman). Stop playing into this shit and making mockeries of our gods. The only pagans I know that unironically like the Thor movies and Frozen are tumblr wiccans and larpers that dont take the gods seriously. If you do not take our gods seriously you shouldnt be here. Happy April Fools.

>>16734

Celtic Lug is more similar to Jupiter or Odin than he is to Loki. A word does not mean the same as another word because they have L's in them.

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 No.16740

>>16738

This but unironically.

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 No.16742

>>16740

who said I was being ironic?

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 No.16744

>>16742

Yer mum.

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 No.16730 [Open Thread]

Belief In Wotan

>.renegadetribune.com/belief-in-wotan/

When a Wotanist attempts to speak of Nordic ideals to his or her blood kin who do not yet believe in the Norse religion, they are often met with derision, hate or, in some instances, even violence. To us who have grasped the spiritual and cultural greatness of our Euro-Tribe ancestors, such attitudes seem ridiculous and without rhyme or reason; but we tend to forget that so many members of our folk have been completely misled and thoroughly corrupted by the false ideas of Judeo-Christian slave morality and the death-wish religion called Christianity.

We forget the long, rough and rocky road over which many of us have trodden before we arrived at our present clearness of vision; a road that was obstructed at every turn by alien concepts that perverted and degraded our precious heritage. We forget the hardship we suffered in the attainment of each successive stage of our own road to self-discovery and self-reliance; we forget the mental misery of those who, weak of will, slid back into the suffocating embrace of subservience to the organizers and supporters of the Christian creed and its alien ‘philosophical science’, its alien ‘values’, its alien ‘law’, and its alien ‘god’.

I have personally lost much in the way of closeness to friends and family while on my journey to Wotan, but I have also gained much that is invaluable. I have gained the knowledge of who I am, what I am of, and where I am headed.

Who am I? I am a believer in the faith of my blood, — What am I of? I am of the Nordic-Aryan Folk. — Where am I headed? I am headed toward a new world — a world in which the offspring of my blood and that of my future mate will unfold and grow; a world in which the unspoiled genes and ideals of our Aryan ancestors shall blossom and ripen unfettered in the most fertile setting that I am able to provide.

We Wotanists do not beg of our Gods. We struggle alongside them, shoulder to sPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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 No.19327

>>16730

6324637137

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 No.16675 [Open Thread]

is taking steroids degenerate or virtuous? they're legal in my country btw.

I wanna get jacked, like a viking! Yay or nay?

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 No.16707

File: c4e40ca69f9d642⋯.jpg (94.08 KB,540x720,3:4,1522145583393.jpg)

>>16681

is this attainable natty? ive been lifting for a few years and not even close to it

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 No.16714

>>16707

Short answer: no.

Check his "upper rack" as I like to call it. Delts, pecs, and traps are thick and juicy. At that low of a body fat (visible, raised abs) most of the body should look relatively flat and dry. The reason that steroid users look so huge is that males have a lot of androgen receptors in the shoulders and chest to distinguish us from females at long distances. Those areas will balloon when someone starts taking steroids. Also, as a side note, he's got a bit of gyno.

It helps that he has damn fine genetics and an overall larger frame. But the fact of the matter is, just lift big, eat big and you'll get some good size. The trade-off is either lean,flat and smaller or big, juicey, and a little chubby.

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 No.16717

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just saw this and I'm gonna stay natty.

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 No.16722

>>16706

being good looking, strong and physically admirable are all positives.

I wasn't talking about that you tard, of course we should strive for those qualities. What I'm talking about the 'hurf durf imam be like Ragnar from Vikings' attitude

>Go back in your basement little goblin.

Nice projection nigger

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 No.16728

>>16675

>is taking steroids degenerate

No, but you probably shouldn't do it.

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 No.16637 [Open Thread]

On The Harshness of Nature

Modern men from their sheltered existence often see Nature as cruel and unforgiving. This is often transferred over into pagan ideas, especially that of the mother Goddess and Woden, the Alfather. In my recent Piece “Woden of the Wild Wood” some of Woden’s “darker” elements are seen. So I have decided to write a short piece just to put this apparent “darkness” in its true context.

The Wild unknown places, from our modern vantage point, appear, as savage in their construction. We watch, from our comfort, the natural world outside and see the powerful prey upon the weak; some poor adolescent barely able to run chased down mercilessly by a mighty predator. Then comes the question, what righteous power could allow such apparent cruelty? Similarly when we look at how our ancestors lived, who dwelt in such places, it is hard to imagine how they coped in such conditions, with no one to call when you are in trouble, no supermarkets to fill your cupboard when the hunger pains kick in. Looking back it can appear very bleak, every day facing an almost impossible struggle for life. Yet they did not curse their reality, but held it in reverence.

To understand this, first we must strip ourselves of all distraction and get down to the roots of life.

>.renegadetribune.com/on-the-harshness-of-nature/

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 No.16671

File: 4e3a058e85afa9e⋯.jpg (53.14 KB,640x364,160:91,lolbergtarianism.jpg)

File: 2baa17ec9b6b823⋯.png (1.43 MB,750x7503,250:2501,Fascist Ecomonics and Soci….png)

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>>16653

You might take a look and read the second image nigger. you're describing the "i wantz gibs" semitic kind and not the Aryan kind.

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 No.16672

File: f793404120361c2⋯.jpg (44.41 KB,909x960,303:320,^EEB7404F01C90FCBB94FF1C4A….jpg)

>>16645

>Semitic ideas of imperialism

<posts picture of romans

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 No.16674

>>16671

>socialism is all about gibz

>except for my socialism which is based, unlike the others

You'll fit right in at leftypol, they're also racists, a lot of them also don't believe in gibs-socialism and they also think their version of socialism be magically better than everyone else's.

>throws a bunch of longass images, expecting me to read all that shit

If you can't even explain your ideology in one sentence or at least in such a way that even a child would understand, then most likely you got memed, nigger.

>Aryan socialism

lmfao, get kiked, nigger. I know you like adding "Aryan" in front things because it sounds nice, but doing that doesn't automatically make something good, except in your imagination.

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 No.16683

>>16672

I think he was referring to when the Romans were spreading Christianity (a semitic religion), after it obtained a significant foothold in Roman society. During their conquest of Northern Europe, they forced and/or persuaded the native populations to renounce their old faiths and to follow the ways of Christianity. Much of Roman and Christian ideology and culture vastly differed and contrasted from the Celtic, Nordic, and other PIE ideologies and cultures at the time, so I believe that is what the anon is referring to.

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 No.16684

>>16683

I should also note that during that time, the Romans still had their original pantheon that many still followed, as Caesar and his historians would try to equate Celtic gods and goddesses with a Roman equivalent, but said pantheon was being phased out during their Northern conquest.

sage for double post

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 No.16624 [Open Thread]

Who Owns the Vikings? Pagans, Neo-Nazis and Advertisers Tussle Over Symbols

Jew York Times article, by Richard Martyn-Hemphill and Henrik Pryser Libell

>March 17, 2018

Edgy Larpers

>RUNTUNA, Sweden — The cries of “Hell!” “Hell!” ringing out across a snow-clad landscape attracted a curious crowd of weekend tobogganers. At the foot of an ancient Viking burial mound, one of the prime sledding spots near the Swedish village of Runtuna, a circular gathering of pagan worshipers was completing a sacrificial ceremony.

>The religious service involved a wooden hammer held aloft, various invocations to Norse deities and ceremonial drinking from two large black horns, one brimming with beer, the other with nonalcoholic mead. Two women led the service, which honored female Norse gods and spirits.

Cucks & Fags

>Per Lundberg, a spokesman for Forn Sed, pointed out that symbols are always open to interpretation, as he showed a wooden Thor’s hammer that was fashioned in a more phallic shape than other iterations

>Strong pushback has come from many corners of the Nordic countries, whether from sports fans or grass-roots organizations like “Vikings Against Racism.”

Ourguys

>Vikings “symbolize everything about Northern Europeans,” said Haakon Forwald, a spokesman for the Norwegian chapter of the group. “We are adventurous, we take risks and settle where no man would dare to settle"

>Formed in 2014, and granted its status as an official religious organization in 2016, the group claims to have over 800 members and is currently raising funds for a pagan temple, which Mr. Sonevang said would be the first in Sweden in over 1,000 years

Hilarious Jewish spin tactics

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 No.16628

>>16627

>Nordic extremists connected clean food to the purity of the land, body and race

OY VEY EAT YOUR MCDONALDS ZOG POISON GOY!

This is hilarious

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 No.16629

>>16628

Hey, you are what you eat. In both the physical and sublime realms.

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 No.16632

>>16624

These people have a pathological hatred for us. Give them just a bit of power and they will mercilessly attack you and everything you love.

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 No.16638

The Jew fears the pagan. Once the white man wakes up from Semitic thought processes there is no stopping his revival

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 No.16640

NAC (people in the picture) has responded.

https://asa-community.se/nac-in-new-york-times/

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 No.16616 [Open Thread]

Runic Overview: The Letter and the Symbol

The Northern European Runes form the basis of the earliest forms of writing in the northern lands, but for me they are much more than this. Before they were used to represent letters, they were powerful symbols in their own right. Each Runic symbol containing within it multiple layers and hidden meanings. Yet, so much of the academic delving and amateur investigations surrounding these enigmatic symbols focus much of their attention on them as simple letters. Before we delve deeper into Rune “theory” we must first understand what is lost when a Rune is reduced to a simple letter.

So what is a letter? Letters simply represent sounds, that form the basis of words, which in turn are used to construct sentences. Each collection of letters (words) has a given definition, which itself can vary related to the context it is used. Via this method we can construct thousands of words, in which to write about and define our existence. This precise method of communication leaves little to the imagination, making it ideal for clear and well defined communication. It is itself a form of reductionism, letters being the smallest part from which you can create multiple bigger things, such as words, sentences, etc. It is no wonder that when this form of communication firmly took hold, that reductionist science and philosophy was born. Reductionism is the idea that all things are the sum of all their parts and by the study of each part, you can determine the “thing”. Reductionist ideas form the basis of modern science and to a large extent modern thinking and without the humble letter none of this would of been possible.

All this at first glance may seem great and reductionist ideas are without doubt a magnificent analytical tool, however the concept of reducing everything to its various parts does have its own unique drawbacks. This way of thinking for me is rather mechanical, each part is seen as simply a cog in the machine. By observing the cog outside of the machine we gain knowledge of the cog, as it is in isolation, which will help us better understand the machine. The main drawback is nothing exists in a vacuum; in nature all things are connected.Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

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 No.16617

>>16616

Although I haven't figured them all out, it would seem each rune represents an important Aesir.

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File: f1fb764e358911b⋯.png (462.61 KB,556x558,278:279,blacksun.png)

 No.16601 [Open Thread]

What do you think of 12 names of Alfather from chapter "Of the Highest God"? What translations of these names do you know and which translation is the best? Can these names be linked to 12 signs of zodiac? Do these names represent 12 Aesir?

I made separate thread because it is not clear to me if this particular Alfather and Odin are the same.

These names are:

Alfather, Herran or Herjan, Nikar or Hnikar, Nikuz or Hnikud, Fjolner, Oske, Ome, Biflide or Biflinde, Svidar, Svidrer, Vidrer, Jalg ol Jalk

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 No.16599 [Open Thread]

>Living the 9 Noble Virtues while being a stay-at-home father

(…) Being an Odinist, we set high standards to our way of life; it isn’t just a faith we follow, it’s a life style. We honor this by living our lives according to the Nine Noble Virtues. This is by no means a small feat to accomplish, nor is it simple. On the contrary, it can be very difficult indeed. Now I have accepted my fate of unemployment and take this opportunity to work on raising my children, teaching and promoting my faith within my family and honoring the 9 noble virtues in my fullest capacity of my being. It is with that I review those virtues and how they still apply; though my position as the provider may have changed it still stands in my new role.

.odinic-rite.org/main/living-the-9-noble-virtues-while-being-a-stay-at-home-father/

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File: dbf6ec764db47e3⋯.jpg (68.75 KB,800x445,160:89,0004E6MO070DT44A-C322-F4-e….jpg)

 No.16597 [Open Thread]

From Elsie Christensen’s periodical “The Odinist” (1984)

A race is a group which is set apart from other groups by spiritual and physical characteristics genetically determined and available only within this group.

Race, thus, a natural fact, a biological given. A ‘standard man’ simply doesn’t exist. And never did. The concept ‘homo sapiens’ is merely a contrivance. Distinct racial differences can be clearly observed in the Anthropoids of the Middle Pleistocene age. Prof Carlton Coon has stated that the transition from early to modern man occurred at different times among the Europeans, Asiatics and Negroes. And fully independently from each other. During the last Ice Age, five racial groups, all with distinct racial characteristics, settled in Europe, although these differences were not as marked as those which exist today between Europeans and Negroes, Asiatics and Australoids. A unified human race will never be created because even miscegenation results in new races that are as equally distinct from each other as the old races.

Race is, over a period of time, constant. It extends far into the past. Race has a much longer history than nations or countries. We have discovered that 35,000 years ago a Cro-Magnon type man inhabited Europe. The bone and skull structures of these people are quite similar to the Germanic skulls seen in Roman ruins or those which, like the Tollund-man, were unearthed in tarpits and which are identical to those seen among Germanic peoples of today. This race is thousands of years old. We inherited their racial characteristics from our ancestors through our parents and we will pass them on to our children and future generations.

>Cont. at //renegadetribune.com/racial-consciousness/

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 No.16598

start an issue on https://github.com/vichan-devel/vichan/issues about vichan not having https when

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 No.16566 [Open Thread]

quote by Golden One

>The month of March, called Mars in Swedish, which is also the Roman name for Ares. My name Marcus, is also Roman. So every March I feel additional Thumos. Any arguments to the contrary are totally invalid

Golden One is strong, massive, and his hair is great and this post is not against him, but it is about paganism in general, and to which god month of March is related.

Many, including wikipedia, think March is related to Mars, it is wrong. This month is related to the god of the sea/dreams, probably in your language you have some words related to the sea similar to "march" like latin "mare".

When you want to link gods to the months, you have to take astrology into account, and in march, precisely from 19.02 to 20.03 is assigned to pisces, ruled by Neptune.

Next month will be related to Mars, sign of Aries, ruled by Mars who is Ares.

Ancients have some arguments against me too, like Rustic Calendars, the Altar at Gabii, and Manilius (associations of signs/months and gods), but they all are wrong. If you want to really understand without any sources where truth is, compare people you know, born in pisces and those in aries, and you will see for yourself, that aries has thumos, (specifically dynamis, and thumos is leonian but generally it is something similar, which makes one active) but pisces is daydreaming, artistic, spiritually inclined.

See for yourself traits of people, and then link them to each god of 12 olympian or other gods, if you use olympian gods remember that Hestia is Dionysus, add Hades for Scorpio, use Ouranos instead of Hera and Menoetius instead of Aphrodite (guard of cattle) for better clarity, and also note that Athena is Neptune.

Real tutelary deity of March should be Minerva/Athena/Cybele.

The function of god of Pisces is to replenish chakras, that's why Agir has "9 daughters". Hope someone understands.

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 No.16571

>>16570

I answered it, and it doesn't

>why do you follow chinese math? Don't you have math of your ancestors?

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 No.16572

>>16571

>I answered it, and it doesn't

You don't really belief that, if you did you would not be promoting Greek Polytheism.

>why do you follow chinese math? Don't you have math of your ancestors?

There is such a thing as Chinese math.

Religion is not math, or rules, or laws.

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 No.16573

>>16572

See that horse behind Poseidon? It is english mare jumping out of latin mare. Obviously it doesn't tell you anything, we are simply of different levels. I am deep thinker, you are simple guy, who doesn't perceive rules and laws which I perceive.

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 No.16574

>>16566

Marcus has more balls than brains. I love how manly and "testosteronous" his channel is and I really think we need a lot more of that on Youtube, but I wish he could just keep focusing on that part of it instead of getting into more intellectual topics which are more suited for people like Varg.

But then again, it's just his opinions, it's okay if he just shares his opinions, but if he's going to talk about all sorts of uneducated opinions like they are the absolute truth, like he's some enlightened mentor then it's going to end up kinda cringey.

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 No.16588

>>16573

>I am deep thinker, you are simple guy

No, you don't really belief that.

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 No.14685 [Open Thread]

What is Odin to you?

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 No.15278

>>15276

>I don't try to argue with you. I know the answers, just don't share them. I give you some hints how to get there, but you still complain.

Maybe go join some occult wizardry larp-group?

You know, a place where social misfits can pretend they have some kind of special knowledge, while sucking at life.

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>>15278

>He knows oculzmism and shiiiett. We real niggaz I mean paganz wuz not into sum ockulzism. He don't arguing he just giving taskz. Too hard for this nigga. he wizard man. muh dick bix nood dat oculmism man.

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 No.15300

>>14685

The wind which caresses my face, the merciless truth.

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 No.16568

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>>15268

>Hypothetically, if my surname ended in "inga"

Don't know if it matters as an ending, but in the begining and in general it is related to fire (agni), engine, engineer are similar words.

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 No.16575

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>>14685

þe Measurer, he only walks wherever, we, are. Tremble before the gifts him and his brothers have granted you, of soul, of sense, of heat and of goodly hue. Keep them! He will be next to you in the corpse circle.

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 No.16554 [Open Thread]

The Black Sun of Alchemy in Depression and Dark Nights of the Soul

>.odinic-rite.org/main/the-black-sun-of-alchemy-in-depression-and-dark-nights-of-the-soul/

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 No.16558

Depression seems pretty clear to me

1. You need to be using your brain and body to their full capacity in pursuit of fufilling your biological imperatives - survival and reproduction

2. If you falter from this path and fall into a state of waking hell, you should be caught by a safety net of moral support structures of family, society, religion which can help you retructure your life. These structures are sadly being eroded.

3. Sometimes if all else fails, there could be antidepressants as a last resort. However all options - finding meaning and fixing sleep, diet, exercise, sex, etc - should be exhausted first

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 No.16560

>>16558

>survival and reproduction

Anon, you can't cure depression simply by getting kids and having a good job. Everyone has something that they really want deep down and when you don't get it your mind reacts by making you depressed. You may not even consciously know what it is you want, but you will still be depressed until you find out what it is and at least start working towards getting it.

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 No.16561

>>16560

Sure there's other things that are important, that's essentially what Nietzsche laid out - that you need to find what compels you and pursue it because that will give structure and purpose to your life.

But if you can't ignore your biological imperative either. That's largely why so many people who have pursued careers and neglected to raise a family feel unfulfilled.

Its also incredibly depressing to see your entire people failing to successfully reproduce and thrive, this is almost more crushing than a failure to personally reproduce because it implies that even though you yourself have succeeded, it is a meaningless success, because in the end the entire genetic line of your people will end regardless of what you do. (I'm not saying that's the case, just that people can feel depressed because of these thoughts - don't fall for this blackpill!)

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 No.16565

>>16561

I agree with you. I just think that what you said applies a lot more to women than men, I mean, you just don't see catmen with a hundred cats at the age of 40, instead you see married fathers with good wives and high-paying jobs ending up in a mid-life crisis because they got redpilled at 30 instead of 20, because even though they did everything correctly, their lives were still unfulfilled.

Of course what you said is right, but men require something extra, I can't say what it is for sure because everyone is different, but for example me I just want to quit my wageslave job, start my own business and build a house, then when I'm around 30-35 I can start thinking of having kids, but that's just me. It's a simple dream but I feel depressed when I'm not working towards it.

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