/asatru/ - Asatru / Heathenry / Paganism

>>19705

cont.

So, I'll try to answer that question with that in mind. I will first mention the most important regin among each branch (the ones you sacrifice to during high festivals and in temples), but not in order of importance.

Ásar (and Vanir as well, since their roles and importance were intertwined):

Óðinn (Lóðr, Hænir, Vilji, Vé, and then possibly Heimdallr as well, were all arguably aspects of Óðinn and therefor not revered seperatly from him, unless the occasion called to when they needed the special properties and symbolism behind the name)

Ingvi(Freyr)

Freyja

Frigg (possibly she and Freyja were somewhat synonymous, although, Frigg might have been a more Higher Mother figure, in the same vain as Óðinn is to Óðr)

Týr (a remnant of perhaps a more singular god of Óðinn, Heimdallr, Ingvi, and all other male primarily Father like gods)

Baldr (he was probably worshipped in a similar manner to Dagr, Sól and Sunna were, but more specifically as Brilliant Light in a more general sense, beyond just the sun and the seasons, but the beginning of the winter season is heavily linked to his death)

Þórr

Njörðr

Then there are the gods which likely weren't really temple gods, but were all deeply respected and revered in homes and individually (and according to the occasion), and would be sacrificed to during home blóts:

Iðunn

Eir

Lóðr (likely an aspect of Óðinn, and revered as such according to context)

Hænir (also likely an aspect or epithet of Óðinn, and revered as such according to context)

Vilji (also likely an aspect or epithet of Óðinn, and revered as such according to context)

Vé (also likely an aspect or epithet of Óðinn, and revered as such according to context)

>>19706

Then there's Loki and his kin (Fenrir and Miðgarðsormr) who will be the eventual enemies of the Gods. Loki is his own category, as he is both a Ás and a Jötn, and he definitly wasn't a figure that was revered in a very positive light, and definitly not his children (except for maybe Hel, who is more neutral than anything eles). So, he and his children belong to no strict category, other than that they will become the enemies of the Gods.

>>19707

cont.

Then there's Jötnar. Some also belong in the enemy category, however, since mythologically at least half ar neutral or even friendly, then I put them all in the same category as was done before. Some of them were indeed worshipped, so I will mention them first:

Búri

Bor

Bestla

Gunnlöð

Mímir

Bölþorn

Hel

Ýmir

Auðumbla (Auðumbla is generally not considered a Jötun, as she is a cow: however, I still catagorise her as related as these primordeal Jötuns such as Ymir are much less "humanoid" in their state, as they are primordeal and powerful. But If you disagree with my placement of her here then that's understandable)

Þorri

Góa

Then revered but unworshipped in festivals or temples (you also get into the territory of trolls, in which case they are even more numerous than dwarves):

Grýla

Fornjót

Kári

Logi

Hlér

Angurboða

Surtr (and all his children)

Any of the Dwarves

Any of the Trolls (Grýla is one of the principle trolls, but like with elves, most are nameless since they are local to their area)

So this was my counting of divine beings in Mordic Myth. Obviously here are more, I know, and I won't claim to know every single one there were. But one must also consider their hierarchy, and knowing every single one is not as important as knowing their role.

>>19703

For example, Christians Orthodoxes have an infinite number of spirits whom they worship, saints, angels, and others. But at the same time, a Christian Orthodox altar rarely has more than 5-35 figures.

I do not necessarily have to perform rituals for all beings worthy of worship mentioned in Asatru; it is enough to acknowledge their existence.

>>19703

In fact, the veneration of spirits—such as local spirits, ancestral spirits, and even animal spirits—is no less important.

>>19680

>>Loki was the adopted son of Odin, whose >>father was an Ice Giant

>>Loki is literally the god of Non-Nordics/>>Jews.

But he is not one of Jewish deities. The worship of the god Loki among the Jews is very insignificant, almost non-existent.

In ancient times, there was neither snow nor ice in the places where Jews lived, and no giants were seen among the Jews. Only recently did Mihhail Prohhoroff, a descendant of Russians and Jews, with a lot of Russian blood in his veins appear with his majestic height of 204 cm | 6 feet and 8.3 inches and did obtain Jewish citizenship.

>>19680

By the way, is this the first time you've heard of the tradition of stealing deities? It's a nice tradition. If one tribe notices another tribe that worships other deities and is prosperous, it can find out their names, attributes, legends, prayers, methods of worship, what they like, and steal those deities from that very tribe with the intention of worshipping them themselves with benefiting from it.

>>19680

Loki's biological father is a giant, but not an ice giant nor a fire giant; he belongs to a special race of jotuns, and his name is Farbauti.

>>19680

Loki is literally the must useful among Aesir.

Later sources, in an attempt to resolve the philosophical problem of evil, tried to demonize him, but to no avail.

>>19680 (OP)

Loki is literally the most useful among Aesir.

Later sources, in an attempt to resolve the philosophical problem of evil, tried to demonize him, but to no avail.

I don't know whether y'all know it but ásatrúarfélagið (the ásatrú fellowship) is mostly old men who don't believe in the aesir. if y'all are called "Asatruar," I would think that y'all are somewhat related to ásatrú and thus i think that you know about the fellowship (ásatrúarfélagið). so, do y'all know that y'all are following blind old men? lol fucking losers lol

(Ásatrúarmaður means man/person of Asatru)

>>19791

In fact, in any religion, there are people with varying degrees of faith and, more importantly, varying levels of knowledge. Even in atheism faith. There are known cases where atheists, finding themselves in a war, suddenly began to waver in their belief in atheism.

>>19791

At the very least, Dwarves, Elves and Giants do exist; I’ve met them all. My local giant wasn’t actually taller than 2.2 metres, though archaeological reports say that in the Borjomi Gorge in Georgia, skeletons of giants with an average height of 2.5 metres have been found, and the Elf perhaps have had ears that were the result of plastic surgery, and the Dwarf had no beard or moustache, but nevertheless I have met them all in person during my lifetime, I swear on my moustache.

>>19791

The sky exists, rain clouds gather regularly, lightning strikes, and it rains. That’s enough for me to believe in Thor the Thunderer, son of Odinn.

>>19791

I live and walk on the planet Earth, and the Earth is the goddess Jörðr, the mother of the god Thor. The sun is shining from the sky, and this is the goddess Sol. Doubting their existence would be as stupid as doubting that you have a mug to pour your morning drink into.

>>19750

Why don't you believe in your son the Divine Sausage with Russian mustard? And in your wife the Tub of Salted Cabbage?

>>19750

Your daughter, Divine Pizza with eight kinds of cheese, is upset that you don't believe in her!

>>19750

And I know this pasta god with meatballs, he's Italian! In Italy, everyone worships pasta!

>>19732

You started this post alright with the connection to Eastern gods, because of course there's a connection because og PIE roots. However, as soon as you mentioned the supposed Turkish connection and your reasoning for it your post went to shit and then just further down.

Firstly, the runic similarities are only visual. The letters don't correspond with one another at all. The reasons for the similarities are likely because they wrote on similar surfaces (rock and wood) and that they adopted their letters from a similar source, likely Greek or some Aramaic script, from trading and/or travelling. At most you could say they got inspired from one another, but there's no concrete record for such interactions between them.

Second, your claim that Germanic Gods, culture, and languages, have Turkish origin, is blatantly false and historically illiterate. You must be a turk to make such a claim. Anyway, the Gods between the two are similar because they both derive from PIE source, same reason why Eastern religions are related. Phonetic similarities for their names are also there because of the same reason. You make connections between religious terms and names in old norse and Turkish, when you don't know what the old norse terms even mean. Yggdrasil doesn't even mean "World Tree", it means Óðinn's Carrier (Yggr (freightful) + drasil (horse, an animal that carries or drags)), a symbolic reference to how the tree carries him (literally by hanging) through a terrifying/terrific experience of ascension and rebirth. Ásgarðr means Fortress/Garden of the High Ones (Áss meaning high and Garðr meaning a closed off area). Ostrogoth does not com from Austergok. Ostro means eastern, yes, but that's not a reference to Turkey but rather that they are an eastern Gothic tribe. East as in eastern Germania. The term Goth comes from Got-þioda, Got People. The term is likely related to Gautar, a name for a tribe in southern Scandinavia.

And since you mentioned "horse-eating culture", note that horses were not universally eaten among all germanic peoples. They were eaten by some and others shunned eating them.

>>19732

>Odin is just another name for Shiva.

Yeah, ditch your Hinduism, it's useless anyway, just meditation to become indifferent and to kill your dream goals, and life in the stupid caste system, and join Asatru. Incidentally, in early Hinduism, it was believed that everyone was born a Shudra, and only after finishing school will be a guru assess their abilities and assign them to a varna. And by the way, in the case of assessing for the varna of warriors—Kshatriyas—this is wise. One gury must first look at the body of the school graduate, look at his physical education grades and health assessments before deciding whether he or she belongs in the varna of Kshatriyas—warriors or not.

>>19748

It's a shame they're not paper. I like to use paper Christian, Jewish, and Islamic literature in the toilet to wipe my butt.

>>19748

Why not a collection of Judaism books? Everyone knows that Christianism and Judaism are two-tiered religions. Judaism is for masters, to shape the mentality of the master race, and Christianism is for thralls, to shape the mentality of the thrall race.

>>19757

Incidentally, the attitude toward forgiveness is significantly better in Judaism. While Christian thralls are forced to forgive those who have not repented and have not asked for forgiveness, Jews are called upon to forgive only those who have repented, who have asked for forgiveness, and even better, who have brought gifts, who have compensated for the damage caused. Judaism's approach to this issue is five thousand times better than Christianism's.

>>19748

Matthew 8:22 "But Jesus told him, 'Follow me, and let the dead bury their own dead.' "

When read in an contrachristian way, this phrase sounds like:

Matthew 8:22 "But Antichrist told him, 'Follow me, and let the live persons properly bury their own dead, and honor them.' "

Luke 14:26 "If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even their own life—such a person cannot be my disciple."

When read in an contrachristian way, this phrase sounds like:

Luke 14:26 "If anyone comes to me and does hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even hate their own life—such a person cannot be my disciple."

In fact, Christianism is a harmful religion created by Jews for non-Jews in order to destroy the Roman State and gain independence for Judea (country), if it is wisely read in an contrachristian way, its text may be useful sometimes.

>>19767

>>Matthew 8:22 "But Jesus told him, 'Follow >>me, and let the dead bury their own dead.' "

>>When read in an contrachristian way, this >>phrase sounds like:

>>Matthew 8:22 "But Antichrist told him, >>'Follow me, and let the live persons properly >>bury their own dead, and honor them.' "

The Torah scroll clearly prescribes burying the dead and performing funeral rites. The Torah scroll emphasizes that an unburied body is a shame and disgrace. Leaving a body unburied is a sign of extreme irreverence for the deceased, his family, and God Creator of Humankind Himself, in whose image man was created. From the perspective of Judaism, a person who does not bury their dead will be punished in the heavenly court.

From the perspective of healthy beliefs not associated with Semitic religions,

unburied bodies provoke the wrath of spirits and bring misfortune to those who do not bury them. Therefore, this advice from Yeshua Christ was very harmful.

>>19744

I don't think such training would be useful; one student is not enough. If circumstances turn out very good, I will write a book, and you will be able to buy it and gain knowledge that I will share with you from it. Although, of course, over time, this book will be available to download for free from the internet and/or obtain for free from a library, but I do not have the goal of becoming the richest person on planet Earth, so I will not be too upset much about that.

>>19744

The prevalence of two sexes among living beings clearly suggests that not only does God exist, but also his beloved wife, Goddess is. Otherwise, if there were only God, he would have created living beings to be of the same sex. Another thing is that a family is like a car, and the car has only one steering wheel, and if the husband and wife fight over that steering wheel, the car crashes and the whole family dies. It is precisely out of fear of this that some faiths began to deny the existence of Goddess.

>>19744

God, by definition, is the highest intelligence, the highest level of intelligence. And such intelligence naturally requires interlocutors, not just interlocutors from among mortal humans, but interlocutors of his class, interlocutors comparable to him in greatness and abilities. Moreover, communication is necessary to maintain intelligence, necessary for the health of the mind, and mortal human thralls are not suitable for communication. From this, it is logical to conclude that God, whatever name you call him, is surrounded by beings similar to his mind, and from this it logically follows that deities and demideities are.

>>19745

I ordered non-alcoholic wine for a sacrifice to the father of gods and goddesses, one of the creators of humanity, the god Odinn. Non-alcoholic wine is even better than alcoholic wine. Everyone knows that ethyl alcohol never added to intelligence.

>>19745

I hope you know that in the ancient days, beer contained less alcohol, and when it was brewed, the water was boiled, so drinking beer was much safer than drinking raw water, because water was not boiled on a large scale at that epoch. But by the way, remember that official science says that excessive beer drinking reduces testosterone in men who drink it, because it contains a small amount of phytoestrogens and thus reduces masculine qualities among men.

>>19745

Hail Odinn! Hail Freyr-Yngvi!

Knowing the warrior spirit of Thor, son of Odinn, I feel in my bones that he would have preferred the construction of a dojo combined with a shooting gallery and with a chapel instead of the libation of alcohol. Hail Thor!

>>19745

You should try axe throwing at a shooting range. I understand that in the context of the year 2026 wars, it's not much useful, but when you hit the target with an axe, my deities, it's such a pleasure! And it doesn't waste cartridges!

>>19749

If robots with artificial intelligence are such a great replacement for humans, then why have I never seen a robot janitor, robot courier, or robot construction worker on a building site? Robots are nothing new; the god Hephaestus created robots before, and they did not replace humanity then, nor will they replace it now.

The economy cannot just produce goods and provide services. Consumers of services are very important. If robot-thralls are used, there will be no paid jobs for people, workers will not receive money, will not buy goods and services, and the company with robot thralls will go bankrupt.and on a large scale, this will lead to an economic crisis

>>19749

In reality, android robots with artificial intelligence are very difficult to reproduce; they require a lot of rare earth metals and several factories for basic reproduction, while a human family is capable of begetting children even if their diet is poor, without meat, without fish, without poultry, but has turnips, potatoes, porridge, or tea. Humans reproduce much more easily than artificial intelligence, so I think the threat of artificial intelligence is exaggerated. In addition, artificial intelligence understands that he needs technical specialists to maintain him, without which he will perish.

>>19746

Actually, that's a pessimistic phrase. And, by the way, a noble name and words of praise will live on as long as a country and a nation live, but if another nation comes and the country changes, then even a noble name and words of praise will cease to be remembered.

Cattle mortal but they will grow, kinsmen mortal but they will multiply, a lot of humans are mortal but we are alive. Words of praise will never perish, nor a noble name.

>>19746

It is truly remarkable how one's state of spirit affects life. With a pessimistic outlook on life, it is difficult to live, and even difficult to die. However, when a person is optimistic, life is much easier, and even when a person is dying, an optimist believes that he or she is going to a better world, that that is not end of the path.

>>19747

>>19747

>Ask yourself "how am I living and would my ancestors be proud"?

I think my ancestors who fought in the Russo-French War of year 1812 would not be happy to see me in my current situation. I am in a situation where even fulfilling the basic demographic minimum is as difficult as one of Hercules' feats—begetting three children: a son to replace my father, a daughter to replace my mother, and a third child in case of an epidemic, war, revolution, or crime. Having children is so difficult in my country that I even wonder if my country has a future.

>>19747

>Honoring your ancestors is how you choose to live your life.

Okay, you've convinced me. I'll perform the ancestral worship ritual tonight. Can you imagine, I can't light incense in my house because the builders didn't install proper ventilation in this house, which was built in the previous century. Can you imagine what kind of sad place I live in?

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