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>>19515

Why would a 'powerful spiritual being' need to assume a physical form? And what exactly is a 'spiritual being' anyway?

>>19533

>Why would a 'powerful spiritual being' need to assume a physical form?

Does it need a reason to if it is capable of doing so?

>And what exactly is a 'spiritual being' anyway?

A being that does not have a material form. Would you expect the gods to made up of actual physical matter like you and me? Obviously not

>>19533

Giants have never needed a reason. That's why they must be hammered back into place. Be weary, for Giants come in many forms like in Grottasongr, always inquire into their race, unlike Frodi.

8. "Thou wast not, Frodi for thyself over-wise,

or a friend of men, when thralls thou boughtest;

for strength thou chosest them, and for their looks,

but of their race didst not inquire." -Grottasongr

What about it do you find interesting?

Christian cathedrals were all built based on the works of famous Roman architects, such as Vitruvius' De Architetura. Of course, the style then evolved and grew to become the gothic style we know.

Christian cathedrals aren't a merit of christianity, but yet another adoption of other Pagan achievements.

>>13688

>the human race is an extension of natural forces, and our architecture should reflect that.

Our architecture can do nothing but reflect us. All we do is a reflection of us. Our buildings need not be literal caves or trees in order for them to be natural, don't be reductive and insulting to our advanced intelligence. Nice dubs though.

>>13324

It's literally described in Eyrbyggja Saga. I don't understand the confusion or ignorance in regards to nordic temples. Just read the stories ffs.

>>13331

This is very true. Although, in Iceland it doesn't center so much about trees, but around sacred stones. These stones or stone groves are considered to be the "homes and cities of elves and other nature spirits". Even in the capital (but it is much more common in rural areas of course), you will see some places were there are big rocks untouched, and in many of those cases it is due to this old pagan belief. In the country side, this is even more apparent, and often it is not rocks but mounds (or mound looking things).

It is common superstition that misfortune will fall upon any who disturb them, and so even if a road is being made it will have to go around it. Not many people actually belive this literally, but they still feel deeply attached to these places.

Not too many years ago, there was a road being made that would go over a elven home. Dozens of people that lived there, and even some who didn't live there but had ancestors who did, went there to stop them. And so they did, the roadwork was forced elsewhere.

It is things like this that makes me think that our ways will never truly die and can be reborn, and the only way to truly destroy them would be to completely replace us.

One of the public videos he made on folkish vs universalist.

>>19663

>>19662

Thank you.

He does some truly sacred work in preserving things like this video here for more to see. And for that I will always praise his channel.

>>19420

He is a clown. He is only "pagan" purely because he believes those were the gods his ancestors worshipped and anybody who watches his stuff is still a manchild pleb at best, who is incapable of doing academic and folk research themselves and only wants to know about pagan European religions because of the same reason as his: Gods of my ancestors. Which, in its raw nature, is an absolutely right thing to do but because these sort of people have very little interest in the actual sacred teachings themselves, these people often don't get the essence of these sacred knowledge and end up being huge idiot larpers such as this guy and Vikernes. Which is also why he is obsessed with genes and prehistoric cultures and hunter gatherers etc. He is a plebian, lying, whining insecure manchild who makes ridiculous presumptions a lot and then provides very little, "proof" while never talking about the null results. Connecting dots is an essential part of these works but half of his presumptions are baseless and have only been presented to confirm his bias. And quite frankly I believe his works have done far more damage to the community than good.

>>19673

You use a lot of words but say very little.

>>19687

Are people that don't have the qualities in the pic non white/less white than those that do?

>>19687

also lmaoe at the dirty brown marks in london, paris and berlin

>>19437

And the first Christians were converted from their pagan ways by wandering Jews

>>19493

>He hasn't seen Assyrian DNA

>>19497

Not Arab =/= Not Semitic

>>19143

Only in the nominative

>>18226

No, because you can't assume words in two very different languages (latin and old norse/old northern germanic) are derived from each other just because they may sound similar.

Also, Loki is not evil. He is the personification of chaos in the universe, because the struggle of change is necessary for the growth to avoid stagnation. It's no coincidence he's the one responsible for getting the gods most of their best tools, including Freyr's ship, Odin's horse Sleipnir, and the Walls of Asgard.

>>19609

This is all true. He is like the personification of a catalyst. Loki's role in the stories is very important.

>>18226

No, and this is why you should look at the language it actually comes from, rather than mostly unrelated ones (in this context). Loki literally means "the one who sets an end/change in motion" (að loka = to end, and the added "i" is to personify the concept). He's the force which sets the events leading towards the end of the cycle in motion, the change necessary to drive the story forward. The two replies above (>>19609 and >>19611) sum it quite well.

This is the wrong board for this, Egyptian religion has very little in common with Nordic polytheism.

>>19642

/pagan/ did not return.

>>19642

>>19631

Egyptian and Nordic lore actually share quite a few similarities and even share some of the same mythic stories.

montalk.net has more on this

Varg's books draw parallels between Nordic Religion and Egyptian

>>19649

Most of the Pagan revivalist movement are Odinist. Mediterraneans are more satisfied with Catholicism because Catholicism still contains many aspects of the old Hellenist faith.

There's an old myth about an late Roman emperor who wanted to turn back the clock on Christianity so he went to the Oracle of Delphi to inquire as to whether there was any possibility for Hellenism to make a comeback from Christianity. She told him no and that the old Greco-Roman gods were dead. I feel like this legend is a firm nail in the coffin for Greek Paganism.

They wouldn't punish people, but they might be socially ostracized and alienated.

In the Odinic rite, like in the Eleusian Mysteries, failing to attain spiritual immortality or awakening is eternal death.

>>7117

>What was Odins punishment for atheism?

Nothing. Don't treat Paganism like Christianity.

This is a common theme and misconception on this board.

Paganism has no "sins" no "punishments" and "eternal hell" for doing bad stuff. Really, might makes right.

The only reason you would "behave" in society is to get what you want and not be butchered by your neighbors, but if you can get away with it, go for it

>>7304

What people do not understand is the Havamal is not the Asatru version of the "Ten Commandments" it is just a guide to living a better life. The Havamal is not saying you have to do this or that but that you should do it (if you want to live with a good name). And even so one can still have a good name even if he did not follow one or two of the guidelines set down in the Havamal. The important thing is friends and family and what legacy you leave behind. Remembrance for good deeds is more important than if say you were a bit of an alcoholic or a rapscallion. As long as you gave more than you took. As long as you returned gift for gift and exchange laughter with laughter. That is all that matters. I have friends who after I past will gladly erect a runestone to my memory. I have family who would gladly drink to my memory. That is all that fucking matters. Anyone else who says otherwise is a Christ-cuck LARPing as a heathen.

>>7304

Huh. Christianity and Christian thinking has been so ingrained into the European mind over the past millennia that it's almost alien to consider how pre-Christian Europeans understand concepts like morality. I am worried that future Odinism might always carry a blemish of Christian influence into its future.

>>10912

>NORSKK

Never heard of this but took a look at the site.

Is it a genuine thing?

Two things good for allergies buy some local raw honey eat a spoonful a day right before the spring season. In theory it inoculates you from local pollen. Also Netti Pots are pretty good. I use them all the time it is just salt water poured through your nasal cavity.

Unless you are someone who needs to wear a face mask otherwise you will die from pollen then seasonal allergies are manageable.

>>11093

Looked into it myself, they are degens and wiccatruars.

"We take the lords name in vain because we believe in the christian hell and it's cool man"

"Homos are coolio"

"Blood and genes don't matter"

Terrible.

Will have to make that Raudr tea on my own.

Yeah the season just started up again now, shit really does suck

>>10901

Allergies are a by-product of not being exposed to a proper amount of disease as children. Amish children for instance have very low rates of allergies and asthma because they're raised in natural environments that they were built for. Making children play outside and giving them pets such as cats or dogs are probably two good methods to preventing such problems.

>blaming Americans

Europeons will never understand the agony of our history. The Founders were the greatest export of Britain, probably the greatest thing to leave Europe. They forged the greatest nation on the planet, host to all manner of industry, art, commerce and science. But after generations of government waxing, socialism and general decay there is only a glimmer, an ember of the fire that used to rage. Don't blame "Americans", some of us still use that term to describe true patriots. Blame the general malaise that afflicted all European states. You don't blame the tree for rotting, you blame the infestation which chews at its insides.

>>16280

He only said that to appease the Christians, he knew it was impossible to make his movement grow if he was explicitly anti-Christian. Hitler as a young man was a huge fan of Schopenhauer and Nietzsche (as stated in August Kubizek's book), both hated Christianity with a burning passion.

>>16158

This guy gets it.

>>16151

Hitler fights terrible monsters from other worlds in Vahalla now.

The unkingly always think it is the end when a King dies.

The King is dead, long live the King.

There were Germanic Kings before King Hitler and there will be Germanic Kings after.

>>16155

>A man who wanted to protect his race has nothing to do with a religion all about protecting one's race

Got it.

I am Danish/Norwegian but don't live in Scandinavia and am just beginning to learn my ancestral tongue recently. Are folks such as myself allowed in the thread?

>>18757

TAKE THE SHART TO THE MART